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  • LordVile
    Starter
    • Sep 2009
    • 834

    #31
    Originally posted by Shawn
    exactly. Even if he turns out to be the next Hines Ward this pick doesn't solidify our Swiss cheese secondary. Unless JuJu can play DB he isn't going to get us past the Pats. I think that's the only issue myself and others had with the pick. It's funny how guys like Dizz love to set up straw men to blow down.
    the value at that point was not there to take a CB... so they took a weapon for Ben..
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    • Captain Lemming
      Legend
      • Jun 2008
      • 16063

      #32
      Originally posted by Slapstick
      I can't agree. You use the draft for long term building blocks, not short term fixes. If the Steelers felt that DB was as big a priority, they would have thrown money at some free agent...they didn't, so I think they saw the improvement in the defensive backfield over the course of the season and felt good with their additions last season...
      And yet the Pats "threw money at some free agent corner' even though they ALREADY HAVE a top corner. We "threw money" at a receiver instead.
      One would think our receivers tore up their secondary but it was THEIR AVERAGE receiver who EMBARRASSED US.

      Slappy, who is winning Super Bowls?
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      In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

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      • Captain Lemming
        Legend
        • Jun 2008
        • 16063

        #33
        Originally posted by Shawn
        I can agree with that much. Let's say Golson finally sees the field and explodes as well as our new rookie seeing time early...then maybe a luxury WR pick in the second can be forgiven.
        Yes, if Golson or one of the rookies surprises THAT is the only way I will like the Juju pick.
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        In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

        TCFCLTC-
        The Coach Formerly Considered Less Than Cowher

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        • Slapstick
          Rookie
          • May 2008
          • 0

          #34
          Originally posted by Captain Lemming
          And yet the Pats "threw money at some free agent corner' even though they ALREADY HAVE a top corner. We "threw money" at a receiver instead.
          One would think our receivers tore up their secondary but it was THEIR AVERAGE receiver who EMBARRASSED US.

          Slappy, who is winning Super Bowls?
          It was one bad game. You've become a prisoner of that moment...
          Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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          • feltdizz
            Legend
            • May 2008
            • 27564

            #35
            Originally posted by Captain Lemming
            Yes, if Golson or one of the rookies surprises THAT is the only way I will like the Juju pick.
            That's the ONLY way? So if our 3rd round CB contributes early and often AND JuJu balls out you will type with your arms folded?
            Steelers 27
            Rats 16

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            • feltdizz
              Legend
              • May 2008
              • 27564

              #36
              Originally posted by Slapstick
              It was one bad game. You've become a prisoner of that moment...
              It's sad... I get it, losing to the Pats is frustrating but how can you use one game to make all your draft moves going forward?

              a few years ago everyone was trying to get us to copy the duel TE threat due to the Pats.
              Steelers 27
              Rats 16

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              • squidkid
                Legend
                • Feb 2012
                • 5847

                #37
                Originally posted by feltdizz
                It's sad... I get it, losing to the Pats is frustrating but how can you use one game to make all your draft moves going forward?

                a few years ago everyone was trying to get us to copy the duel TE threat due to the Pats.
                i dont think it was just 1 bad game. our secondary is mediocre at best. it routinely gets torched by good qbs and lots of bad ones too. almost every fan here wanted to draft secondary early and often. once the pick was in, certain fans proclaim the greatness of the pick and downplay not taking the secondary. i dont recall 1 single fan(including the fanboys) that wanted/predicted a wr in round 2. JUJU may turn out to be a nice wr, and i actually think he will be a solid player for years, but the obvious need was db.
                steelers = 3 ring circus with tomlin being the head clown

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                • feltdizz
                  Legend
                  • May 2008
                  • 27564

                  #38
                  Originally posted by squidkid
                  i dont think it was just 1 bad game. our secondary is mediocre at best. it routinely gets torched by good qbs and lots of bad ones too. almost every fan here wanted to draft secondary early and often. once the pick was in, certain fans proclaim the greatness of the pick and downplay not taking the secondary. i dont recall 1 single fan(including the fanboys) that wanted/predicted a wr in round 2. JUJU may turn out to be a nice wr, and i actually think he will be a solid player for years, but the obvious need was db.
                  It's not downplaying IMO. It's looking at the draft in real time and how it played out. Should we have moved up? Could we have "easily" moved up? Not sure about that.

                  I would be more upset if Obi, Uzi, etc were still available and we picked JuJu over them but that wasn't the case AND we picked up Sutton in the next round. Sutton also played a ton of man coverage in college. Need I remind people we were drafting at 30.

                  ..and I guess the Steelers still draft BPA more than need.

                  from Dulac:
                  Waiting three rounds to find a defensive back in the draft was longer than anyone anticipated, even for the Steelers. But it wasn’t without trying.
                  They had two potential targets in their crosshairs in the first round — Michigan safety Jabrill Peppers and cornerback Tre’Davious White of LSU. They had their eye on two more in the second — cornerback Kevin King of Washington and safety Obi Melifonwu of Connecticut. All those players were gone when it was their turn to pick.
                  So they ended up with cornerback Cameron Sutton of Tennessee in the third round, and it wouldn’t be a stretch to say he is something of a hybrid of all four.


                  Last edited by feltdizz; 06-09-2017, 09:21 AM.
                  Steelers 27
                  Rats 16

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                  • Mick'sTeam
                    Backup
                    • Jun 2008
                    • 480

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Slapstick
                    It was one bad game. You've become a prisoner of that moment...
                    It was one bad game last year, but beating the Patriots has been a struggle for years.

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                    • Steel Maniac
                      Banned
                      • Apr 2017
                      • 19472

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Slapstick
                      It was one bad game. You've become a prisoner of that moment...
                      That team of the "moment" has beaten us 6 straight. 6 straight is longer then " a moment"

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                      • Steel Maniac
                        Banned
                        • Apr 2017
                        • 19472

                        #41
                        Originally posted by squidkid
                        i dont think it was just 1 bad game. our secondary is mediocre at best. it routinely gets torched by good qbs and lots of bad ones too. almost every fan here wanted to draft secondary early and often. once the pick was in, certain fans proclaim the greatness of the pick and downplay not taking the secondary. i dont recall 1 single fan(including the fanboys) that wanted/predicted a wr in round 2. JUJU may turn out to be a nice wr, and i actually think he will be a solid player for years, but the obvious need was db.
                        I have to agree with this.

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                        • feltdizz
                          Legend
                          • May 2008
                          • 27564

                          #42
                          we gave up 20 passing TD's last year. Only 4 teams gave up less through the air.

                          I think every team gets "torched" by gy good QB's.

                          That's what makes them good.
                          Steelers 27
                          Rats 16

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                          • Shawn
                            Legend
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 15131

                            #43
                            Originally posted by Slapstick
                            I can't agree. You use the draft for long term building blocks, not short term fixes. If the Steelers felt that DB was as big a priority, they would have thrown money at some free agent...they didn't, so I think they saw the improvement in the defensive backfield over the course of the season and felt good with their additions last season...
                            If the Steelers don't believe they need serious help in the secondary then whoever is making that observation needs fired.
                            Trolls are people too.

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                            • Slapstick
                              Rookie
                              • May 2008
                              • 0

                              #44
                              Originally posted by Shawn
                              If the Steelers don't believe they need serious help in the secondary then whoever is making that observation needs fired.
                              Or, they are correct...
                              Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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                              • Shawn
                                Legend
                                • Mar 2008
                                • 15131

                                #45
                                Originally posted by feltdizz
                                Savior of our season? damn, don't hurt yourself moving the goal post.

                                Do you guys really think a DB in the 2nd round would see more snaps early in the season? I doubt it.
                                I think much like Sean Davis a second round DB could help us late in the season against Brady. Isn't that what this is about? Winning now while we have Ben? By the time JuJu comes into his own (and I believe he will) who will be throwing him the ball?
                                Trolls are people too.

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