Arians 'retirement"

[Slapstick]

ehh, Arians has had more success IMO.

2 Coach of the Year awards and the playoffs with Carson freaking Palmer and a young Colts team who lost their HC to cancer for a season.

Lets be honest, given our weapons and HOF QB we have come up real short since Arians left.

And one playoff win...if we had all of our weapons (like, I don't know, Le'Veon Bell or Antonio Brown) for those games, perhaps I could accept the "weapons" argument...

[feltdizz]

wait, i'm confused.

you could say that again...

[feltdizz]

And one playoff win...if we had all of our weapons (like, I don't know, Le'Veon Bell or Antonio Brown) for those games, perhaps I could accept the "weapons" argument...

even without those 2 we still should have more than 1 playoff win and I dont think its a good thing to point to arians right now as proof we are better.

better at what?

If Arians was the OC and we had these results you guys would kill him for his playoff record and lack of production in the postseason.

its pretty pathetic to brag about rankings... you guys turn around and laugh at Arians for having the #1 offense and only scoring X amount of points. Make up your minds.

Dont get me wrong, i like the fight we showed vs Denver but I will never understand how people laugh at Arians and say we are sooo much better when we havent had the W's to back it up.

[SteelCrazy]

LMAO.. Crash schooled the #### outta you guys. All these stats were thrown out (not my thing) and after Crash threw a few more out there the whole conversation changed to bashing Crash for his predictions that are obviously bathed in hyperbole.

We went to 2 SB's in 5 years with Arians and you guys bitched and moaned the whole time about Arians being the reason we didn't win 4 SB's.

We went to 2 SB's in 5 years because of our Defense. We would have went last year if we had our #1 D. That Crash dude is delusional.

[Art Rooney II]

We went to 2 SB's in 5 years because of our Defense. We would have went last year if we had our #1 D

My defense was ranked #1 in 2012 and we went 8-8. That's why I fired Bruce.

Oh ****, wait a minute, that was after 2011 when I fired Bruce.

[SteelCrazy]

My defense was ranked #1 in 2012 and we went 8-8. That's why I fired Bruce.

Oh ****, wait a minute, that was after 2011 when I fired Bruce.

makes sense...if you cant win with the #1 D you need to be fired

[Art Rooney II]

makes sense...if you cant win with the #1 D you need to be fired

When why am I keeping Toddy on the payroll? He had the #1 defense and won 8 games.

Help me fan base!

[SteelCrazy]

When why am I keeping Toddy on the payroll? He had the #1 defense and won 8 games.

Help me fan base!

Toddy hasnt had a top 5 D since he arrived here.....

[Art Rooney II]

Toddy hasnt had a top 5 D since he arrived here.....

I hired Toddy in 2012. My defense was ranked #1 that season and we won 8 games.

What the hell happened?

[SteelCrazy]

I hired Toddy in 2012. My defense was ranked #1 that season and we won 8 games.

What the hell happened?

Wrong, your Defense was ranked #6 that year. Try again?

[Art Rooney II]

Wrong, your Defense was ranked #6 that year. Try again?

Dad told me the NFL ranks their offense/defense by yardage. Thus we were #1.

We won 8 games.

[SteelCrazy]

Dad told me the NFL ranks their offense/defense by yardage. Thus we were #1.

We won 8 games.

Thats your Dads NFL, thus they were ranked #6 in points allowed, which is what matters

[SteelCrazy]

Dwyer was also our leading rusher....

[feltdizz]

We went to 2 SB's in 5 years because of our Defense. We would have went last year if we had our #1 D. That Crash dude is delusional.

Crash isnt delusional... maybe a bit sensational but he has stats, facts, game tapes, etc to back up his argument. Notice how all the stat post stopped after he dropped a few stats of his own.

It real easy to say the defense carried us to SB's but that wasnt the case. One thing arians was great at was scripting the first 15 plays. We had grrat results. He was also a vertical guy and while that was frustrating at times we also led the league on big plays and those were some game changing plays.

I know people love the dink and dunk but a draw back is kicking FG's instead of scoring TD's. I also remember Arians getting bashed for bubble screens... lmao, we still run a ton and no one complains.

IMO it was a whole bunch of dog piling on Arians because we only made it to 2 SB's. That is delusional IMO.

one more thing, how does a number 1 D get us to a SB last year? Thats just yapping IMO. We have no idea if that gets us a SB. Its all about matchups and splash plays. Its delusional to say 1 play would change the whole outcome of a game.

[Art Rooney II]

And one playoff win...if we had all of our weapons (like, I don't know, Le'Veon Bell or Antonio Brown) for those games, perhaps I could accept the "weapons" argument...

Then why did I fire Mr. Arians? He went to Denver without his starting center, his starting tailback, his franchise QB was playing hurt and he scored 23 points.

What the hell was I thinking? I knew I shouldn't have chugged that 5th of Jameson after that game. That damned Tebow.