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"Exactly!
He is a good head coach (players play for him) but ee never impressed as an OC. When Pagano got sick and Arians replaced him, his natural ability as a head coach was revealed. Had he never replaced Pagano, he would have never gotten his shot with his middling offensive numbers."
-Captain Lemming
"Good to see the statistics. I was wondering. But still, it seems like Ben's style opens him to more injuries."
-Eich
And I hasn't posted in the thread yet.
LeBeau does get some credit. But this whole notion that he carried Ben to two rings is laughable. When the facts on the field suggest otherwise. Without Ben in his life LeBeau is ring-less, and his "legacy" would remain Joe Montana making his rush three men (Oh those poor Bengals radio announcers) 4th quarter prevent defense look foolish.
Ben's style? Ben hasn't been Ben for four years. Because Haley's offense is DESIGNED to do what defenses actually WANT, to keep Ben in the pocket, and limit his mobility.
Which had led to the injuries. Which has led to the big hits he's taken.
Go watch Ben's FIRST pass to Hines in SB XLII.
That was a staple with BOTH Whiz and Arians, it helps Ben avoid the rush, and it also aides the offensive line.
And I would bet we haven't done that 20 times, in FOUR years with Haley here.
I've said for years, before 2012, you don't CHANGE Ben, the MINUTE that his style of play isn't what you want? You remove him, you don't change him.
As Herb Brooks once said: You don't hire Picasso to paint a garage.
And that's exactly what these last 4 years feels like.
If ANY other OC pulled the same "look at me" stunts Todd Haley has here? They'd get ripped.
But he's a local guy, so he skates free, at the expense of this team.
He is a good head coach (players play for him) but ee never impressed as an OC. When Pagano got sick and Arians replaced him, his natural ability as a head coach was revealed. Had he never replaced Pagano, he would have never gotten his shot with his middling offensive numbers."
-Captain Lemming
"Good to see the statistics. I was wondering. But still, it seems like Ben's style opens him to more injuries."
-Eich
And I hasn't posted in the thread yet.
LeBeau does get some credit. But this whole notion that he carried Ben to two rings is laughable. When the facts on the field suggest otherwise. Without Ben in his life LeBeau is ring-less, and his "legacy" would remain Joe Montana making his rush three men (Oh those poor Bengals radio announcers) 4th quarter prevent defense look foolish.
Ben's style? Ben hasn't been Ben for four years. Because Haley's offense is DESIGNED to do what defenses actually WANT, to keep Ben in the pocket, and limit his mobility.
Which had led to the injuries. Which has led to the big hits he's taken.
Go watch Ben's FIRST pass to Hines in SB XLII.
That was a staple with BOTH Whiz and Arians, it helps Ben avoid the rush, and it also aides the offensive line.
And I would bet we haven't done that 20 times, in FOUR years with Haley here.
I've said for years, before 2012, you don't CHANGE Ben, the MINUTE that his style of play isn't what you want? You remove him, you don't change him.
As Herb Brooks once said: You don't hire Picasso to paint a garage.
And that's exactly what these last 4 years feels like.
If ANY other OC pulled the same "look at me" stunts Todd Haley has here? They'd get ripped.
But he's a local guy, so he skates free, at the expense of this team.
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