Arians 'retirement"

[squidkid]

[url]http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/06/17/bruce-arians-opens-up-about-his-steelers-retirement/[/url]


i could have swore tomlin, and his fans, said he wanted arians gone an fired him..............strange

[SteelCrazy]

Just because Tomlin told him that doesn't mean that's what really happened. And if Tomlin doesn't have the pull to extend a successful assistant then exactly what role is Tomlin really playing.....Seems like a lot is still missing from this story.

[Starlifter]

interesting clip. not sure what arians is trying to accomplish. the NFL is a notorious club. outsiders rarely succeed. As much as tomlin may control the team - ultimate control still rests with the rooneys. we'll never know how hard tomlin fought for BA - but if artie and dan wanted him gone, he was gone. and for BA to not at least acknowledge they may have had a part in the decision seems disingenuous to me - and a bit cowardly. happy to take on a fellow coach - but not the guys who actually pay the money.

at some point his time in arizona will end. it will be interesting to see how long the memories are of coaches/teams who may not want to be his next target.

[BradshawsHairdresser]

Arians is a better HC than OC. Good for him that it worked out so well elsewhere, but it was time for him to leave the Steelers.

It would have been a tough phone call for MT to make, being friends with BA and all, but while nothing in the story indicates that Tomlin came up with the idea to let Bruce go, neither is there any confirmation that he was necessarily against it. I still say MT owns that move.

Maybe BA will get his "grudge match" in a Super Bowl against the Steelers.

[Captain Lemming]

Arians is a better HC than OC. Good for him that it worked out so well elsewhere, but it was time for him to leave the Steelers.

It would have been a tough phone call for MT to make, being friends with BA and all, but while nothing in the story indicates that Tomlin came up with the idea to let Bruce go, neither is there any confirmation that he was necessarily against it. I still say MT owns that move.

Maybe BA will get his "grudge match" in a Super Bowl against the Steelers.

EXACTLY
Dude NEVER had a TOP 10 offense as an OC. People talk about the SB win he had. That team was twenty something in scoring and yardage. The defense CARRIED his offense to the SB. We scored more than 20 offensive points ONCE in the post season. His OFFENSE scored TWENTY points against an AVERAGE AZ defense, James Harrison is the only reason we had a chance in the end.

Haileys Card offense out scored ours going against THE TOP DEFENSE IN THE LEAGUE. Hailey CALLED GREAT PLAYS, that took advantage of Troy's inclination to creep towards the LOS, getting him out of position on pass plays. After the very start of the game the offense under Arians was stale. Even the game winning drive was all Ben.

Haileys OFFENSE carried a bad AZ defense to that game. Haileys OFFENSE was better than Arians even in a loss.

BA is a very good head coach. But as an OC? Last season was the only time as a Steeler OR A CARDINAL that his DEFENSE was not the better unit on an Arians team. Look it up.

[Oviedo]

Would anyone really want Arians over Haley? I don't. Ben has thrived under Haley and he was barely physically surviving under Arians

[Oviedo]

BTW--why do we care about what Arians or his wife thinks about something that took place years ago?

[Jooser]

Would anyone really want Arians over Haley? I don't. Ben has thrived under Haley and he was barely physically surviving under Arians

Yeah, but that was LeBeau's fault.

[Oviedo]

Yeah, but that was LeBeau's fault.

Probably true which is why he got the boot too

[DBR96A]

BTW--why do we care about what Arians or his wife thinks about something that took place years ago?

Why did anybody care enough to make a story out of it again?

[Eich]

In the clip, Arians said that, "I had retired. Legitimately retired." She then asked him, "You really thought you were done". Arians says, "Oh yeah. And then Chuck calls.".

This is something new to me. The way the story came out originally, when the Rooney's said that Arians retired, it seemed like it was an outright lie. But apparently Arians had every intention of retiring at that time - probably because he was so pissed. Until Chuck called.

[RuthlessBurgher]

Steelers say Mike Tomlin made the decision to fire Bruce Arians
Posted by Mike Florio on June 21, 2016, 10:16 AM EDT

A new profile of Cardinals coach Bruce Arians has dusted off questions regarding one of the most notorious retirements in NFL history. Arians clearly was fired, and it becomes even more clear from the interview of Arians and his wife from Andrea Kremer of HBO’s Real Sports With Bryant Gumbel that the focal point of their frustration was and is Steelers coach Mike Tomlin.

It nevertheless had been believed by many that Tomlin was simply the messenger, and that the decision had been made about his head. The Steelers say otherwise.

“We did contact the Steelers, and we asked them if they had a comment on this,” Kremer said during a Tuesday visit to PFT Live on NBC Sports Radio. “And they said, ‘Look, this is ancient history for us. Mike’s already talked about this.’ But [they] made it clear that this was Mike Tomlin’s decision, to fire Bruce Arians.”

Kremer also explained that Arians believes Tomlin’s hands were tied. Still, the fact that Tomlin received a contract extension not long after Arians was let go made Arians believe that he’d been sold out — especially since Arians believed that he and Tomlin were tied together.

Cardinals T-shirts currently carry the words “trust,” “loyalty,” and “respect.” Said Arians at one point to Kremer: “Yeah, well, those are words that I don’t think are on the Steelers’ jerseys.”

Tune in to HBO tonight at 10:00 p.m. ET for the full Arians profile. Also, check out the PFT Live podcast at iTunes or audioBoom for the full Kremer interview.

[URL]http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/06/21/steelers-say-mike-tomlin-made-the-decision-to-fire-bruce-arians/[/URL]

[SteelCrazy]

I hated Arians with a passion when he was here and now I could care less what he does as a coach. However, with that cheap shot about trust loyalty and respect I hope we get a rematch in the SB this year and dust him like the big dumb dumb that he is....I mean, come on! This is a produce or get lost league and the fact remains he sucked as a OC and Tomlin made the greatest decision of his career by getting rid of the QB killer.

[SteelCrazy]

Let's get something established right off the bat: Bruce Arians got himself fired by the Pittsburgh Steelers.

Tonight, HBO will air an interview in which the Cardinals' coach will blame Mike Tomlin for his unceremonious ending in Pittsburgh, where Arians was the team's offensive coordinator from 2007-11. In reality, it was Arians--not Tomlin--who got himself fired after refusing to listen to management, something the Rooney family finally got tired of dealing with.

Ed Bouchette of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette has often reported that--on multiple occasions-- the Steelers' brass asked Arians to change the offense to take better care of Ben Roethlisberger, who was sacked 215 times during Arians' time as offensive coordinator. Arians refused and, despite Pittsburgh's 24-8 regular season record during his final two seasons with the team, Pittsburgh did not renew Arians' contract at the conclusion of the 2011 season.

Tomlin, fulfilling his role as head coach, had the unenviable task of giving Arians the news, and offered to fly to Arians' location to give him the news personally. In so many words, Arians told him not to bother, abruptly ending his time with the Steelers. And despite his recent successes in the years following his time in Pittsburgh--he was named NFL Coach of the Year in both 2012 and 2014--Arians is obviously still bitter about how his time with the Steelers came to an end.

Arians can be mad at the Steelers for not renewing his contract. He can be mad at Tomlin for not giving the Steelers the "keep Arians or I go" ultimatum, but he can't blame Tomlin for how his career in Pittsburgh ended. Arians' time in Pittsburgh ended because he refused to change the offense, which ultimately cost him his job.

Bruce Arians likes to run the show. He's doing just that in Arizona, where Cardinals' management gives him full rein to make decisions that he feels is best for the team. But, quite frankly, Arizona isn't Pittsburgh, where the team has to protect their future Hall of Fame quarterback (not to mention $100 million investment). The Steelers also have the Rooney family, who for decades have made decisions that have led to six Vince Lombardi Trophies. The Cardinals have won five playoff games in the last half century. Arians also wasn't the head coach in Pittsburgh, and he shouldn't have made Tomlin the middle man when he wouldn't just do what his bosses asked him to do.

In this situation, Arians has no scapegoats. He did a good job in Pittsburgh--the team won Super Bowl XLIII with Arians as the team's offensive coordinator. But his inability to follow authority led to the ending of his time in Pittsburgh. Arians still doesn't grasp this, and it continues to muddy his reputation in Pittsburgh, and further exhibit the arrogant and petty behavior that got him fired in the first place.

[url]http://pit.247sports.com/Bolt/Bruce-Arians-has-only-himself-to-blame-for-firing-in-Pittsburgh-45913315[/url]

[RuthlessBurgher]

The sour grapes act by Arians seems kinda dumb, because if his contract as O.C. in Pittsburgh gets renewed, he never becomes an NFL head coach.