Are You People Serious...

[Cinnjerm3000]

...cause you have to be joking with all this Landry Jones talk. I get that Vick wasn't really that effective until it really mattered, but the fact that he showed up when it really mattered (IMHO) shows that he's a far better option than Jones. You're lying to yourself if you think Jones could've engineered either of those scoring drives at the end of the game, and for those postulating that Jones' play might have prevented late game heroics from being required, allow me to refresh your memory.

Preseason 2015:

Vikings Game: 47% comp, 128 yds, 0TDs/1INT against scrubs
Jags Game: 52% comp, 200 yds, 1TD against scrubs
Packers Game: 53% comp, 172 yds, 2TDs/1INT against scrubs
Bills Game: 58% comp, 77 yds, 1TD against scrubs
Panthers Game: 81% comp (9/11 mind you), 147 yds and no TDs against scrubs

Seriously, I get that Vick is a far...far cry from Ben, but people calling for Landry are likely either incredibly racist, still butt-hurt about the man's past transgressions, or just impossibly stupid (or some combination of the three).

[Ghost]

Jones would be an unmitigated disaster. I hope and pray he never sees the field.

[SteelCrazy]

Its funny how bad Jones sucks but has yet to play a down in the regular season. In all those games he played against scrubs, how many times did he have the entire starting offense backing him?

[phillyesq]

Jones would be an unmitigated disaster. I hope and pray he never sees the field.

I agree. For most of the game, Vick was a disaster, and if the Chargers didn't drop 3 almost interceptions, it could have been worse. With that said, he still gives the Steelers a better chance to win than Landry Jones. Which is an indictment of Jones as much as anything else.

The Steelers really need to find a better solution at backup QB this offseason. They need to upgrade both the second and third string.

[AzStillers1989]

Bring in jones!!!!!!! Woooooooooo!!!!!

[RuthlessBurgher]

For what it's worth, Vick's career completion percentage is 56.2%. This year for us, his 63.8% completion percentage is the best he's ever had in his entire career, even when he was given a $100 million + contract. The only other time he completed over 60% of his passes was in 62.6% with the Eagles in 2010. Every other year in his career had aa completion percentage less than 60%. Think about that for a second.

[Starlifter]

I started a thread and in it I posed the question - 'if the steelers don't trust vick to pass, put in landry jones'.

that is NOT an endorsement nor a desire to see jones in the game. but though the game ended well for us and vick made a nice 2 minute drive - for the first 3 1/2 quarters he was missing near everything. it was clear the steelers weren't going to let him throw unless they had to, the chargers knew it and were stacking the box against the run.

the point of the question was this. if you're not going to let your QB throw the ball, is it because you don't trust him to make the throws, because he has no timing with the receivers or because he doesn't know the offense? maybe some or all of that? and if that's the case, is jones merely there as the ultimate emergency last option guy? because if you don't trust him enough to put him in the game when the starter can't complete an out pass or hit a TE over the middle - then why even waste the roster spot? train up a WR to hand off the ball to Bell or just run the wildcat exclusively.

there is a difference between asking why you wouldn't make the switch and wanting to make the switch.

I am still puzzled why jones is even on the team. because what we've seen from vick has NOT been good, and that must means jones is downright horrible.

[WindyCitySteel]

I agree. For most of the game, Vick was a disaster, and if the Chargers didn't drop 3 almost interceptions, it could have been worse. With that said, he still gives the Steelers a better chance to win than Landry Jones. Which is an indictment of Jones as much as anything else.

The Steelers really need to find a better solution at backup QB this offseason. They need to upgrade both the second and third string.

Shame we dropped Hoyer for Leftwich a few years back. He'd be the perfect #2.

[feltdizz]

I honestly wanted Jones after 3 quarters of watching Vick throw 5 yard outs to the other team. I'm glad Vick pulled it out but I don't want to see another game of pocket passer Vick.

[WindyCitySteel]

I honestly wanted Jones after 3 quarters of watching Vick throw 5 yard outs to the other team. I'm glad Vick pulled it out but I don't want to see another game of pocket passer Vick.

Tell Haley that. NFLN did a nice segment on "Ben the OC" after drawing up that long TD play. Stunning that the coaches couldn't figure that out.

[Shoe]

...cause you have to be joking with all this Landry Jones talk. I get that Vick wasn't really that effective until it really mattered, but the fact that he showed up when it really mattered (IMHO) shows that he's a far better option than Jones. You're lying to yourself if you think Jones could've engineered either of those scoring drives at the end of the game, and for those postulating that Jones' play might have prevented late game heroics from being required, allow me to refresh your memory.

Preseason 2015:

Vikings Game: 47% comp, 128 yds, 0TDs/1INT against scrubs
Jags Game: 52% comp, 200 yds, 1TD against scrubs
Packers Game: 53% comp, 172 yds, 2TDs/1INT against scrubs
Bills Game: 58% comp, 77 yds, 1TD against scrubs
Panthers Game: 81% comp (9/11 mind you), 147 yds and no TDs against scrubs

Seriously, I get that Vick is a far...far cry from Ben, but people calling for Landry are likely either incredibly racist, still butt-hurt about the man's past transgressions, or just impossibly stupid (or some combination of the three).

Dude, did you just watch that game? The only redeeming quality Vick has clearly over Jones is his mobility--and he rarely uses it. If he insists on playing in the pocket, he is just a tad better than Landry. He lofted two balls toward the sideline that should've been intercepted, at least one of those for a pick six. If that happens, he probably doesn't even get to throw that deep ball that makes people like you think he's better than he was... he may actually gotten benched at that point.

If he's not going to run with the ball, he really isn't much better than Landry Jones. He is a poorman's Russell Wilson... you don't see Russell Wilson sitting in the pocket all game. He uses his legs, picks up 2-3 first downs a week with his legs.

[NorthCoast]

For what it's worth, Vick's career completion percentage is 56.2%. This year for us, his 63.8% completion percentage is the best he's ever had in his entire career, even when he was given a $100 million + contract. The only other time he completed over 60% of his passes was in 62.6% with the Eagles in 2010. Every other year in his career had aa completion percentage less than 60%. Think about that for a second.

That comes with footnote that Vicks avg yards through the air was 3 until last night's bomb doubled that. I would expect ANY competent NFL QB would be able to complete a 3 yd pass.

[Cinnjerm3000]

Dude, did you just watch that game? The only redeeming quality Vick has clearly over Jones is his mobility--and he rarely uses it. If he insists on playing in the pocket, he is just a tad better than Landry. He lofted two balls toward the sideline that should've been intercepted, at least one of those for a pick six. If that happens, he probably doesn't even get to throw that deep ball that makes people like you think he's better than he was... he may actually gotten benched at that point.

If he's not going to run with the ball, he really isn't much better than Landry Jones. He is a poorman's Russell Wilson... you don't see Russell Wilson sitting in the pocket all game. He uses his legs, picks up 2-3 first downs a week with his legs.

I could ask you the same question, but the only point I was trying to make is that Landry does nothing better than Vick so why even entertain switching the two when there's no discernible advantage to doing so? Landry isn't accurate (worse than Vick in fact), has zero mobility, no pocket presence or situational awareness (well, neither of them do), and he has no arm. About the only real advantage he has over Vick is a working knowledge of the playbook, but devoid of the requisite athletic faculties to effectively/reliably execute said plays, I fail to see how this makes him a more attractive option. Really I would feel a lot better if Gradkowski was still an option, but alas...he is not.

[Cinnjerm3000]

Moreover, it's speculation on my part, but it's worth noting that it's likely by design that Vick has been shoehorned into the role of pocket passer as a preventative measure on the part of the coaching staff. I'd posit that it's the reality of Jones as the sole fail-safe in the event of a Vick injury that has compelled Haley to orchestrate such a conservative offensive game plan the last two weeks.

[BowCatShot]

Tell Haley that. NFLN did a nice segment on "Ben the OC" after drawing up that long TD play. Stunning that the coaches couldn't figure that out.

Yes it is stunning. I surmise that Ben wanted to win whereas the coaches did not.