Dupree a big surprise? Not on many mocks as 1st round pick

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  • Eddie Spaghetti
    Hall of Famer
    • Jul 2008
    • 4123

    #31
    good solid pick

    could have gone a lot worse for us

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    • squidkid
      Legend
      • Feb 2012
      • 5847

      #32
      listen, i get it.
      if ray was the pick you would be saying he was BPA
      if gregory was pick you would say he was PBA
      as i posted earlier, i wanted a non-pothead, character guy while many others said forget about the issues.
      steelers = 3 ring circus with tomlin being the head clown

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      • SS Laser
        Pro Bowler
        • Apr 2009
        • 1928

        #33
        nfldraftscout has him over ray and Gregory. walterfootball has him 3 for 3-4 olb only behind Fowler and Beasley. I am sure there are more if you want to keep going.

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        • blacknblue80s
          Starter
          • May 2008
          • 515

          #34
          I love his measuarables but the youtube footage has me cringing. He just looks a bit sluggish, especially when you compare him to Shane Ray.

          I think he just needs to diagnose and react faster.
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          Another AS masterpiece.

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          • 7upnext
            Backup
            • Jan 2015
            • 367

            #35
            Originally posted by squidkid
            check out any draft big board after the season ended, before the combine and pro days, and tell me how m,any times dupree was listed as a better PLAYER than ray or gregory. plus many others at other positions.
            but that was before all the fallout from their antics and they were supposed to go much higher. That's why there are drug tests, medical tests, the combine, interviews, pro days, and visits...so they can determine if the college tape told the whole truth. Dupree is a beast. I was never high on Gregory but yeah...Ray just looks like a Steeler. However, he wasn't perfect...had trouble setting the edge..and will have the substance abuse problems to deal with his whole career. I honestly don't think the Steelers thought Dupree would be there and probably think he's better than Ray even if Ray hadn't gotten in trouble. Who knows. I'm optimistic

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            • squidkid
              Legend
              • Feb 2012
              • 5847

              #36
              Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
              So you are now complaining that we didn't take the OLBs with red flags for drugs that you have already stated that you didn't want? Which is it?
              no, you are making things up. i simply stated that he wasnt PBA, i never said to draft a pot head even altho they were a better player.
              steelers = 3 ring circus with tomlin being the head clown

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              • hawaiiansteel
                Legend
                • May 2008
                • 35317

                #37
                Dupree is a 6'4" 269 pound freak of an athlete who will be either a Defensive End or an Outside Linebacker depending on the defensive scheme of the team that drafts him. Most think if he is in a 3-4 Defense, he will be an OLB and in a 4-3 defense he will be a pass rushing DE.

                Dupree turned heads with his combine results and cemented his status as a first round prospect with some eye popping numbers. Dupree, at 269 pounds ran a 4.56 40-yard dash. The only linebackers to run a faster time was 25 pounds lighter Vic Beasley at 4.53, and 32 pound lighter Kwon Alexander at 4.55. This says a lot about Erik Korem's high performance system as well.

                Dupree also put up an insane 42-inch vertical leap, and an other worldly 11 feet 6 inch broad jump, good enough for third best of anyone at the combine, regardless of position.

                [URL]http://www.aseaofblue.com/2015/4/26/8486723/kentucky-football-2015-nfl-draft-profile-alvin-bud-dupree[/URL]

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                • Steel Life
                  Pro Bowler
                  • May 2008
                  • 1535

                  #38
                  Both Ray & Gregory were dropping by many due to concerns other than pot - Ray was considered undersized & not much of an athlete compared to the other edge rushers...Gregory had questions about his weight, low football IQ & an inability to play the run. In the end, who knows how it'll pan out but without a doubt it's a good pick.
                  It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust & sweat & blood...

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                  • squidkid
                    Legend
                    • Feb 2012
                    • 5847

                    #39
                    Originally posted by SS Laser
                    nfldraftscout has him over ray and Gregory. walterfootball has him 3 for 3-4 olb only behind Fowler and Beasley. I am sure there are more if you want to keep going.

                    when was that dated?
                    steelers = 3 ring circus with tomlin being the head clown

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                    • RuthlessBurgher
                      Legend
                      • May 2008
                      • 33208

                      #40
                      Originally posted by squidkid
                      listen, i get it.
                      if ray was the pick you would be saying he was BPA
                      if gregory was pick you would say he was PBA
                      as i posted earlier, i wanted a non-pothead, character guy while many others said forget about the issues.
                      I wanted Peters despite the issues, but as soon as he was taken by K.C., I was hoping for Dupree. I even advocated trading up to Philly's pick to avoid risking Cincy taking Bud. If I thought Gregory or Ray was BPA, I would not have suggested trading up for Dupree a few picks before we were on the clock. It's actually kinda funny that we passed on two guys who had recent issues with Bud and instead drafted a guy named Bud.
                      Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

                      Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                      We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                      We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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                      • hawaiiansteel
                        Legend
                        • May 2008
                        • 35317

                        #41
                        Where is he drafted?

                        It is pretty much a consensus that Dupree will have his name called on Thursday night in the first round. In fact, he was invited to attend the draft, an honor only 26 total people earned.

                        NFL.com grades out Dupree as a 6.1 on their scale of 1 to 10, this correlates to an instant starter per their grading.

                        Dupree could go as high as #4 to the Raiders or as low as #27 to the Cowboys, he will most likely end up closer to #4 than #27 though. The Washington Redskins own the #5 pick and will bring in Dupree in to work out for them as early as Monday.

                        Most experts expect Dupree to go somewhere between 5-13. No matter who drafts him, they will be getting a specimen with a high ceiling; the rest is up to them.

                        [URL]http://www.aseaofblue.com/2015/4/26/8486723/kentucky-football-2015-nfl-draft-profile-alvin-bud-dupree[/URL]

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                        • 7upnext
                          Backup
                          • Jan 2015
                          • 367

                          #42
                          Originally posted by squidkid
                          listen, i get it.
                          if ray was the pick you would be saying he was BPA
                          if gregory was pick you would say he was PBA
                          as i posted earlier, i wanted a non-pothead, character guy while many others said forget about the issues.
                          You don't get it. All of us never considered Dupree because he was mocked to go in the top 10. He was always mocked that way and rated that way. The reason why we mocked Ray and talked him up was because we felt he would be available. If someone had told us these are the BPA left to choose from at 22 and Dupree was among them...many would probably have done more research. I still love Ray and would have loved him to go to us..but Bud wasn't even a thought in our mind. That would be like us thinking White or Beasley would be there at 22. I don't remember hearing anyone pimping Gregory anyhow. Ray of course. But again..you have to factor in the drug arrest and his inclusion in the drug program.

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                          • RuthlessBurgher
                            Legend
                            • May 2008
                            • 33208

                            #43
                            Originally posted by squidkid
                            no, you are making things up. i simply stated that he wasnt PBA, i never said to draft a pot head even altho they were a better player.
                            Who was BPA over Dupree then? The only names you have given so far are the potheads you are on record as not wanting.
                            Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

                            Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                            We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                            We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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                            • Starlifter
                              Legend
                              • May 2008
                              • 5025

                              #44
                              Originally posted by 7upnext
                              Jarvis Jones was the first OLB/pass rusher we've used a number 1 on ever..or as far back as I care to try and remember. So one other #1 on a pass rusher who still might develop. I just...
                              Well perhaps I'm mistaken but I don't think we drafted shazier #1 for his ability to cover the pass or stop the run.

                              Again, I'm not arguing the pick. I'm just frustrated because we have many needs on defense and we are still trying to find the right mix at LB.
                              2014 MNF EXEC CHAMPION!!!

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                              • Steel Life
                                Pro Bowler
                                • May 2008
                                • 1535

                                #45
                                Originally posted by squidkid
                                as i posted earlier, i wanted a non-pothead, character guy while many others said forget about the issues.
                                You got what you wanted then...[URL="http://t.co/JF3SFWSqOZ"]Bud Dupree Draft Profile – NFL.com[/URL]
                                It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust & sweat & blood...

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