Pittsburgh Steelers: Todd Haley Has Already Identified Offensive Strengths

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  • steelz09
    Administrator
    • Jan 2008
    • 4675

    #91
    Originally posted by Crash
    Per Joe Starkey via Twitter:

    My talk with Ben Roethlisberger at 3 p.m., 93.7 The Fan. Ben believes fans want more runs and will "get their wish."


    That's FOUR. Three OL's and their offensive captain.
    Ben and his sarcasm is killing me. First off, I think we'll be more balanced... I don't think we'll be a ground and pound football team. No way.

    Seconday, I'm getting tired of Ben's BS comments. You're supposed to be the leader, start acting like it.
    Tomlin: Let's unleash hell and "mop the floor" with the competition.

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    • Crash
      Legend
      • Apr 2009
      • 5008

      #92
      Originally posted by steelz09
      Ben and his sarcasm is killing me. First off, I think we'll be more balanced... I don't think we'll be a ground and pound football team. No way.

      Seconday, I'm getting tired of Ben's BS comments. You're supposed to be the leader, start acting like it.
      He is. He's at work. Unlike others.

      You want more balance? Then make 1st down 50-50.

      Until that happens, you won't see balance.

      The point is FOUR DIFFERENT PLAYERS have come out and said they will run the ball MORE.

      They all can't be lying, can they?

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      • steelz09
        Administrator
        • Jan 2008
        • 4675

        #93
        Originally posted by Crash
        He is. He's at work. Unlike others.

        You want more balance? Then make 1st down 50-50.

        Until that happens, you won't see balance.

        The point is FOUR DIFFERENT PLAYERS have come out and said they will run the ball MORE.

        They all can't be lying, can they?
        I'm not calling anyone a lier. Can we all just wait until after week 1 to start talking about the percentage of run plays? Trying to guess that now is like trying to predict the winning lottery #'s.
        Tomlin: Let's unleash hell and "mop the floor" with the competition.

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        • grotonsteel
          Hall of Famer
          • Jul 2008
          • 2810

          #94
          If Todd Haley runs the ball more i think he might be the dumbest OC ever.

          Design plays to your strength and Steelers QB is their strength. Steelers running game sucks. Don't run for the sake of running. I don't want to see stupid run-run-pass Marty ball.
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          • Crash
            Legend
            • Apr 2009
            • 5008

            #95
            Or, he could be doing what his ownership wants?

            Dude has to eat.

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            • Sugar
              Hall of Famer
              • Oct 2008
              • 3700

              #96
              Originally posted by steelz09
              Ben and his sarcasm is killing me. First off, I think we'll be more balanced... I don't think we'll be a ground and pound football team. No way.

              Seconday, I'm getting tired of Ben's BS comments. You're supposed to be the leader, start acting like it.
              I guess I'm trying to figure out what Ben said that was "BS" or showed poor leadership in any way.

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              • flippy
                Legend
                • Dec 2008
                • 17088

                #97
                It is a team game. And to truly come up with the best offensive strategy, you must take into account all aspects of the team, including the defense.

                We still have a defense built on speed/pressure/splash plays.

                A running game helps eat the clock and keeps the D fresh.

                The entire team needs balance to win.

                A QB won't win a SuperBowl without a Defense. See the Giants for recent proof in the modern NFL.

                If we can win with Ben making 10 throws, that's ok by me.

                But if Ben's gonna throw 40+ times a game like some want, Lebeau's going to have to adjust his defense a bit. It's clear, we don't have a defense to withstand the shootouts and long periods on the field.

                It's been clear, as Ben's stats have improved, the defense has underperformed at the end of games. There's a direct correlation. Someone needs to adjust. Either Haley or Lebeau.
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                • Crash
                  Legend
                  • Apr 2009
                  • 5008

                  #98
                  The defense has played like cow flop in the 4th quarter since LeBeau came back.

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                  • Chadman
                    Legend
                    • May 2008
                    • 6537

                    #99
                    Nice...not even in TC & we have the offense worked out. Steelers fans truley are the smartest of all football fans.
                    The people that are trying to make the world worse never take a day off, why should I?

                    Light up the darkness.

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                    • papillon
                      Legend
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 11340

                      I'll take the results of Ben's rookie year, the difference now is that the quarterback is the veteran and if he's managing a 15-1 offense going into the playoffs the Steelers will have a great chance to be the champs again. I'm hoping the same formula will work, pass early and often to open up the lead, then run the ball to shorten the game and have Ben make the plays he's capable of to finish off the game. I see no downside to that style of offense at all, even if it means Ben only throws the ball on average 25 times a game. His completion percentage will be extremely high and his YPA will be off the charts and the offense will be dangerous, IMO.

                      Pappy
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                      • Slapstick
                        Rookie
                        • May 2008
                        • 0

                        Just score more points. I don't care how.
                        Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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                        • Eich
                          Legend
                          • Jul 2010
                          • 7044

                          Originally posted by Slapstick
                          Just score more points. I don't care how.
                          I agree. And I think both Tomlin AND Haley don't care how either. I want both of them to follow up on THEIR words and play to exploit the other team's weaknesses. If that means passing 40+ times in a particular game, great. If it means running 40+ times in some other game, that's great too. SCORE MORE. WIN MORE.

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                          • Eich
                            Legend
                            • Jul 2010
                            • 7044

                            Originally posted by Crash
                            He is. He's at work. Unlike others.
                            If Hines Ward was still on the team and was making as many sarcastic remarks that Ben has been making lately, you would CRUICIFY him for doing it.

                            JUST LIKE HINES WARD, Ben plays with a massive chip on his shoulder. And just like Ward, I'm fine with it as long as it makes him play his best.

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                            • Slapstick
                              Rookie
                              • May 2008
                              • 0

                              Originally posted by Eich
                              If Hines Ward was still on the team and was making as many sarcastic remarks that Ben has been making lately, you would CRUICIFY him for doing it.

                              JUST LIKE HINES WARD, Ben plays with a massive chip on his shoulder. And just like Ward, I'm fine with it as long as it makes him play his best.
                              QFT...you are exactly right...
                              Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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                              • feltdizz
                                Legend
                                • May 2008
                                • 27532

                                Originally posted by papillon
                                I'll take the results of Ben's rookie year, the difference now is that the quarterback is the veteran and if he's managing a 15-1 offense going into the playoffs the Steelers will have a great chance to be the champs again. I'm hoping the same formula will work, pass early and often to open up the lead, then run the ball to shorten the game and have Ben make the plays he's capable of to finish off the game. I see no downside to that style of offense at all, even if it means Ben only throws the ball on average 25 times a game. His completion percentage will be extremely high and his YPA will be off the charts and the offense will be dangerous, IMO.

                                Pappy
                                +1

                                Some people are more concerned with Ben putting up stats or throwing 40+ times a game vs winning with 25 throws like his rookie year. The more times Ben drops back the more chances he has to get hurt. I know it's part of the game but Ben isn't the best at avoiding contact or taking what the D gives.

                                Throw early... run often.. win games.

                                It's starting to get old hearing Ben take digs at the fans/Rooneys when mentioning running more. He sounds like he is still butt hurt over losing BA.
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