Cowher power for crash

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No one wanted Ben except for Dan you haters.

Read what Rooney says in his book. He pretty much confirms it.

It's sad, you guys are so worried about me that you want to throw Dan Rooney under the bus after he made the best decision for this team in decades.

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Which means you dunce, that if Rooney didn't speak up? Ben isn't here.

Actually, according to Dan Rooney, momentum had swung in the room to players other than Ben. Momentum suggest no decision was yet made or finalized when Dan suggested and steered the conversation back to Ben.

Only a lunk head like Cowher would value a fat tackle over a franchise QB.

Cowher should be smart enough on his own to realize that Ben should have been the pick. He shouldn't need 74 year old Dan Rooney to persuade the war room, thus changing the course of Steelers history.

Actually, according to Kevin Colbert, Bill was in the corner of selecting Ben, possibly all along. Nobody knows but we do know Bill was not opposed to but rather in favor of selecting Ben at some point or perhaps all the way in the process.

Then why did they want Andrews until Mr. Rooney spoke up?

Keep sucking Cowher off 43. I'm sure he appreciates it.

[Blockhead]

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Which means you dunce, that if Rooney didn't speak up? Ben isn't here.

Actually, according to Dan Rooney, momentum had swung in the room to players other than Ben. Momentum suggest no decision was yet made or finalized when Dan suggested and steered the conversation back to Ben.

Only a lunk head like Cowher would value a fat tackle over a franchise QB.

Cowher should be smart enough on his own to realize that Ben should have been the pick. He shouldn't need 74 year old Dan Rooney to persuade the war room, thus changing the course of Steelers history.

Actually, according to Kevin Colbert, Bill was in the corner of selecting Ben, possibly all along. Nobody knows but we do know Bill was not opposed to but rather in favor of selecting Ben at some point or perhaps all the way in the process.

Then why did they want Andrews until Mr. Rooney spoke up?

The actual quote in the book suggest momentum was going away from Ben but no decision had been finalized. Kevin Colbert's own words suggest Bill was championing the selection of Ben, against his and the scouts suggestions. In the end, Dan steered the conversation back to Ben and Bill agreed, and Kevin and the scouts followed, making the selection of Ben.

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The actual quote in the book suggest momentum was going away from Ben but no decision had been finalized.

And Wexell saying that late in the week before the draft word leaked that Andrews was going to be the pick?

You keep hugging Bills nuts. I'll deal in facts.

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The actual quote in the book suggest momentum was going away from Ben but no decision had been finalized.

And Wexell saying that late in the week before the draft word leaked that Andrews was going to be the pick?

You keep hugging Bills nuts. I'll deal in facts.

Wexell saying anything late in the week about who would be the selection at #11, without knowing the first ten picks, is mere speculation. There are a lot of misinformation put out there around draft time. Speculation you have chosen to believe because it furthers your agenda.

Since you like facts, here's a fact for you. You commonly refer to Jim Wexell as a liar, thief and hack, yet when the agenda fit, used him as a reference. That's a funny fact.

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Damn... you mean we leaked who we were going to pick and didn't end up picking him?

That has NEVER happened before

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All media are hacks. He is a thief too. He also has anger issues and the minute he assaulted Mark Madden in Heinz Field he no longer should be allowed in the building.

But he also has good sources in the Steelers office.

Fine, don't use Wexell. Mr. Rooney himself confirms what everyone already knows. Without his speaking up? Ben isn't a Steeler.

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Damn... you mean we leaked who we were going to pick and didn't end up picking him?

Only because Mr. Rooney pulled rank and saved their a$ses.

Thank God.

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Fine, don't use Wexell. Mr. Rooney himself confirms what everyone already knows. Without his speaking up? Ben isn't a Steeler.

Can you please show a link to that quote? The only quote I have read does not say that. Thank you.

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Damn... you mean we leaked who we were going to pick and didn't end up picking him?

Only because Mr. Rooney pulled rank and saved their a$ses.

Thank God.

You do realize all these guys worked for the same team at the time?

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Damn... you mean we leaked who we were going to pick and didn't end up picking him?

Only because Mr. Rooney pulled rank and saved their a$ses.

Thank God.

You do realize all these guys worked for the same team at the time?

And? The Chief owned the team. He and Chuck Noll wanted Dan Marino (Noll watched Marino at a private TRS workout and raved). Art Jr. however said that they had Bradshaw for three more years and they didn't need to draft a QB.

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Because people are obsessed with calling me out.

Which is why this thread was created.

This thread was about correcting a lie you have typed hundreds, if not thousands, of times over the last few years.

The truth has now been shown and your words have now been proven incorrect. Cowher was much in favor of selecting Ben. He, like most if not all NFL teams would have preferred Philip Rivers but he was previously selected, removing him as an option.

Everyone knows you hated the decade and a half of Steelers football Cowher coached but no need to make up lies to further prove it.

Not one who normally defends Crash, and I 100 percent disagree crash and agree with Blockhead on this topic BUT:

It you aren't 43 or some other long time Crash foe, there is no way you make this post as someone who just showed up as "Blockhead".
You are busted dude.

No crime in that, just own up to it.

Otherwise, you are correct anyway, so make your claim to calling it was back.

[Captain Lemming]

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The actual quote in the book suggest momentum was going away from Ben but no decision had been finalized.

And Wexell saying that late in the week before the draft word leaked that Andrews was going to be the pick?

You keep hugging Bills nuts. I'll deal in facts.

According to Y0U Wexell said;

"Rooney told them that he wasn’t going to meddle and tell them whom to draft. He just told them that he’d once passed on a franchise quarterback (Dan Marino) and it was one of the most difficult football decisions with which he ever had to live. Whether Rooney had a direct impact or not, the Steelers that day drafted quarterback Ben Roethlisberger in the first round."




It is funny that you are more sure that Rooney was the sole reason we drafted Ben than the very source of your info..

According to this all Rooney did was give them feedback for them to "consider" and still leave the decision up to his "experts".

He never pulled an AL DAVIS.

Rooney might have convinced Cowher who might have been split between Andrews and Ben, and conceded previously to the scouting department who favored Andrews.

Persuaded by Rooneys comments, Ben convinces the room to pick Ben.

According to Colbert, had Ben not done this, they world have picked Andrew, regardless of what was suggested by Rooney.

You are wrong Crash, admit it.

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According to this all Rooney did was give them feedback for them to "consider" and still leave the decision up to his "experts".

Please. When the Rooney's speak? You listen and do what they tell you to do, no matter how the message from them is delivered. If you honestly don't think his "intention" was to get them to draft Ben you are a fool.

Bottom line? If Dan Rooney doesn't walk into that $%^&* war room, Ben Roethlisberger is a Buffalo Bill. And that my friend is a fact.

Don't worry about me, you should be thanking Rooney for pointing them in the right direction.

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Why continue this? No matter what anyone writes, they cannot re-write history and the simple fact that Rooney is the reason we drafted Ben.

By Rooney saying he steered the discussion towards Ben was a gentle way of saying we are taking Ben. What did you expect him to say.."I walked in and told them all they were bat **** crazy for looking at that fat ass tackle and there is no way we are not drafting Ben"?

Please.

Twist and spin all yinz want; swing from the sack of Cowher. But the fact is he did not want Ben and the best thing he did for this team was to pack up his nutless sack and head to NC.