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  • Crash
    Legend
    • Apr 2009
    • 5008

    Re: Cowher power for crash

    There was no vote junkie boy. Cowher didn't want Ben. Rooney pulled rank and got him there. Cowher, Rooney's underling, then did what he was told to do.

    Colbert's not going to throw Cowher under the bus when it's been rumored for years that if Cowher goes to another team that he intends to try and get Colbert to go with him.

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    • Captain Lemming
      Legend
      • Jun 2008
      • 16041

      Re: Cowher power for crash

      Originally posted by Crash
      When they made the pick, Ben was BCs preferred choice.
      No, Ben was ROONEY'S preferred choice. All Cowher did was listen to what Rooney told him to do like any employee should.
      Is BC by your definition the ONLY good employee?
      Why did Colbert and the rest need to be persuaded by BC at all?

      If BC is not convinced Rooney is right, he doesnt to say jack squat to convince the others. There is no need, the decision is made already. If BC doesnt believe it, if the others have no choice, why does BC have to convince the rest?
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      In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

      TCFCLTC-
      The Coach Formerly Considered Less Than Cowher

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      • Blockhead
        Backup
        • Feb 2011
        • 298

        Re: Cowher power for crash

        Originally posted by Crash
        There was no vote junkie boy. Cowher didn't want Ben. Rooney pulled rank and got him there. Cowher, Rooney's underling, then did what he was told to do.

        Colbert's not going to throw Cowher under the bus when it's been rumored for years that if Cowher goes to another team that he intends to try and get Colbert to go with him.
        Again, namecalling?

        As Rooney stated, momentum had swung away from Ben when he suggested they take another look at Ben. They did, with Bill championing Ben as the selection.

        Facts! Those are it. What you and your Cowher hatred are suggesting, are made up conjecture. You're incapeable of rational thought and discussion.

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        • Captain Lemming
          Legend
          • Jun 2008
          • 16041

          Re: Cowher power for crash

          Originally posted by Crash
          There was no vote junkie boy. Cowher didn't want Ben. Rooney pulled rank and got him there. Cowher, Rooney's underling, then did what he was told to do.

          Colbert's not going to throw Cowher under the bus when it's been rumored for years that if Cowher goes to another team that he intends to try and get Colbert to go with him.
          If it is a lie why bring it up at all? Saying NOTHING does not throw BC under the Bus.

          If anything Colbert just throws HIMSELF under the bus, ensuring that his stock goes down with everybody BUT BC.

          That would be stupid. Well at least to most people.

          Clearly only a "genius" like you think it would be logical for Colbert to throw himself under the bus, disrespecting his CURRENT BOSS if it is false, for a "possible" job with BC that is likely his anyway if he wants it.
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          In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

          TCFCLTC-
          The Coach Formerly Considered Less Than Cowher

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          • Captain Lemming
            Legend
            • Jun 2008
            • 16041

            Re: Cowher power for crash

            Originally posted by Blockhead
            As Rooney stated, momentum had swung away from Ben when he suggested they take another look at Ben. They did, with Bill championing Ben as the selection.

            Facts! Those are it. What you and your Cowher hatred are suggesting, are made up conjecture. You're incapeable of rational thought and discussion.
            Interesting facts Charlie Brown.

            Crash, look closely at Rooney's words.

            Clearly, Ben was ALREADY being discussed, perhaps had been a frontrunner at one point prior to Rooney making a case for Ben, in order for "momentum" to have "swung away" from Ben in the first place. Prior to that Ben HAD momentum already.

            Far from your idea that everybody was anti-Ben some had opinions that went back and forth as the discussions were happening. It was close all along.

            Clearly, Colbert felt strongly for Andrews all along, since BC needed to sway him.

            Who does that leave, whose opinion was moved from Ben away from Ben and back to Ben? You know the answer.

            Did Ben already have "momentum" at one point in the discussion that had "swung away" from him? Did Rooney merely steer momentum BACK to where it had been previously, implying that others had strong feelings "for" Ben? That is what he says.

            Or did he force the pick on an a staff that hated the pick from the start?

            Are you calling Rooney a liar too?
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            In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

            TCFCLTC-
            The Coach Formerly Considered Less Than Cowher

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            • ScoreKeeper
              Backup
              • Dec 2010
              • 291

              Re: Cowher power for crash

              My Goddness, this thread has reached the status of recreating dreams because the truth was lost a while ago.

              Cowher "championing" the Ben pick. That's just rich.

              You really have to love message boards. Dreams created. History rewrote. Innane thoughts read and believed by those a little less fortunite in the noodle department than a special olympics medal winner.

              But hey, it's all good here on Fantasy Internet.
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              • Captain Lemming
                Legend
                • Jun 2008
                • 16041

                Re: Cowher power for crash

                Originally posted by ScoreKeeper
                My Goddness, this thread has reached the status of recreating dreams because the truth was lost a while ago.

                Cowher "championing" the Ben pick. That's just rich.

                You really have to love message boards. Dreams created. History rewrote. Innane thoughts read and believed by those a little less fortunite in the noodle department than a special olympics medal winner.

                But hey, it's all good here on Fantasy Internet.
                That is what Colbert said. He was in the room. You and I were not.

                You are right about one thing though. The TRUTH is in the very first post. It proves that BC WANTED to draft Ben because in order for it to happen he had to convince others that we should do it.

                Rooney made a case for Ben, BC backed his case and persuaded the rest. Were it not for Rooney Ben is not a Steeler true. But if BC did not agree, he would still not be a Steeler, since BC convinced the rest. Clearly Rooney delegated the final decision.

                That is what Colbert said. He was in the room. You and I were not.
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                In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

                TCFCLTC-
                The Coach Formerly Considered Less Than Cowher

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                • Blockhead
                  Backup
                  • Feb 2011
                  • 298

                  Re: Cowher power for crash

                  Originally posted by Captain Lemming
                  Originally posted by ScoreKeeper
                  My Goddness, this thread has reached the status of recreating dreams because the truth was lost a while ago.

                  Cowher "championing" the Ben pick. That's just rich.

                  You really have to love message boards. Dreams created. History rewrote. Innane thoughts read and believed by those a little less fortunite in the noodle department than a special olympics medal winner.

                  But hey, it's all good here on Fantasy Internet.
                  That is what Colbert said. He was in the room. You and I were not.

                  You are right about one thing though. The TRUTH is in the very first post. It proves that BC WANTED to draft Ben because in order for it to happen he had to convince others that we should do it.

                  Rooney made a case for Ben, BC backed his case and persuaded the rest. Were it not for Rooney Ben is not a Steeler true. But if BC did not agree, he would still not be a Steeler, since BC convinced the rest. Clearly Rooney delegated the final decision.

                  That is what Colbert said. He was in the room. You and I were not.
                  Rooney said he steered the conversation as momentum had swung away from Ben. That does not mean it wouldn't have swung back to Ben with further discussion. Clearly though, Bill was pushing for Ben. Bill did have final say so at some point, he could have used it and vetoed the scouts, management and Colbert.

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                  • Captain Lemming
                    Legend
                    • Jun 2008
                    • 16041

                    Re: Cowher power for crash

                    Originally posted by Blockhead
                    Bill did have final say so at some point, he could have used it and vetoed the scouts, management and Colbert.
                    How do you know this?
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                    In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

                    TCFCLTC-
                    The Coach Formerly Considered Less Than Cowher

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                    • Blockhead
                      Backup
                      • Feb 2011
                      • 298

                      Re: Cowher power for crash

                      Originally posted by Captain Lemming
                      Originally posted by Blockhead
                      Bill did have final say so at some point, he could have used it and vetoed the scouts, management and Colbert.
                      How do you know this?
                      Read it somewhere when he signed his last extension. He had final say in draft picks and they also said that it didn't mean a lot as they typically all ended up agreeing on picks anyway.

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                      • Crash
                        Legend
                        • Apr 2009
                        • 5008

                        Re: Cowher power for crash

                        If it is a lie why bring it up at all?
                        Because he was asked during SB week.

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                        • Crash
                          Legend
                          • Apr 2009
                          • 5008

                          Re: Cowher power for crash

                          Rooney made a case for Ben, BC backed his case and persuaded the rest. Were it not for Rooney Ben is not a Steeler true.
                          Then everything else to stroke Cowher's ego is irrelevant and Dan Rooney gets the credit.

                          Sorry, I'm not giving Cowher credit because Dan Rooney pulled rank and removed Cowher's head from Shawn Andrews as$.

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                          • Flasteel
                            Hall of Famer
                            • May 2008
                            • 4004

                            Re: Cowher power for crash

                            Originally posted by Crash
                            Rooney made a case for Ben, BC backed his case and persuaded the rest. Were it not for Rooney Ben is not a Steeler true.
                            Then everything else to stroke Cowher's ego is irrelevant and Dan Rooney gets the credit.

                            Sorry, I'm not giving Cowher credit because Dan Rooney pulled rank and removed Cowher's head from Shawn Andrews as$.
                            11 pages later and you are still battling the truth.

                            Amazing.

                            "...To make a mistake is only an error in judgment, but to adhere to it when it is discovered shows infirmity of character.”
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                            • Blockhead
                              Backup
                              • Feb 2011
                              • 298

                              Re: Cowher power for crash

                              Cowher had final say on personell written into his contract. If he didn't want Ben, Ben wouldn't be here.

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                              • Crash
                                Legend
                                • Apr 2009
                                • 5008

                                Re: Cowher power for crash

                                Cowher had final say on personell written into his contract.
                                Absolutely 100% not true.

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