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  • Blockhead
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    • Feb 2011
    • 298

    #76
    Re: Cowher power for crash

    Originally posted by Crash
    The Steelers were on a downward spiral before Ben arrived. Four of six seasons out of the playoffs proves it.
    The Steelers were not on a downward spiral before Ben arrived. 2 of the 3 years before Ben arrived, the Steelers won the division and were in the playoffs, winning 2 games and losing 2 games, one of which was the AFCC game.

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    • Crash
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      • Apr 2009
      • 5008

      #77
      Re: Cowher power for crash

      Originally posted by Blockhead
      Originally posted by Crash
      The Steelers were on a downward spiral before Ben arrived. Four of six seasons out of the playoffs proves it.
      The Steelers were not on a downward spiral before Ben arrived. 2 of the 3 years before Ben arrived, the Steelers won the division and were in the playoffs, winning 2 games and losing 2 games, one of which was the AFCC game.
      So Peyton Manning is overrated, right? He was drafted by a team who was in the playoffs two of the previous three seasons, one of which was an AFC title game.

      Now what 43, hold your hero Peyton to the same standard.

      4 of 6 seasons at home, and a 10 loss season prior to Ben.

      If that's not a downward spiral, you went from pot to crack.

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      • Blockhead
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        • Feb 2011
        • 298

        #78
        Re: Cowher power for crash

        Originally posted by Crash
        Originally posted by Blockhead
        Originally posted by Crash
        The Steelers were on a downward spiral before Ben arrived. Four of six seasons out of the playoffs proves it.
        The Steelers were not on a downward spiral before Ben arrived. 2 of the 3 years before Ben arrived, the Steelers won the division and were in the playoffs, winning 2 games and losing 2 games, one of which was the AFCC game.
        So Peyton Manning is overrated, right? He was drafted by a team who was in the playoffs two of the previous three seasons, one of which was an AFC title game.
        Yeah, sure. If you choose to believe that, it's your decision.

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        • Crash
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          • Apr 2009
          • 5008

          #79
          Re: Cowher power for crash

          Originally posted by Blockhead
          Originally posted by Crash
          Originally posted by Blockhead
          Originally posted by Crash
          The Steelers were on a downward spiral before Ben arrived. Four of six seasons out of the playoffs proves it.
          The Steelers were not on a downward spiral before Ben arrived. 2 of the 3 years before Ben arrived, the Steelers won the division and were in the playoffs, winning 2 games and losing 2 games, one of which was the AFCC game.
          So Peyton Manning is overrated, right? He was drafted by a team who was in the playoffs two of the previous three seasons, one of which was an AFC title game.
          Yeah, sure. If you choose to believe that, it's your decision.
          Same situations for both teams.

          Four of six seasons at home for the Colts, but two of three seasons in the playoffs, a 2-2 record, and one AFC title game before Peyton.

          Four of six seasons at home for the Steelers, but two of three seasons in the playoffs, a 2-2 record, and one AFC title game before Ben.

          same exact thing. So it's simple: Either both teams were on a downward spiral, or both teams were not on a downward spiral.

          Can't be one scenario for one, and not the other.

          Focus on the facts.

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          • Blockhead
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            • Feb 2011
            • 298

            #80
            Re: Cowher power for crash

            Originally posted by Crash
            Focus on the facts.
            I will. All of them, unlike yourself. Thanks.

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            • hawaiiansteel
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              • May 2008
              • 35649

              #81
              Re: Cowher power for crash

              Originally posted by Blockhead
              Originally posted by Crash
              Focus on the facts.
              I will. All of them, unlike yourself. Thanks.

              isn't it fun to have a friend to play with?

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              • NJ-STEELER
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                • May 2008
                • 12563

                #82
                Re: Cowher power for crash

                here's a question.

                why has it taken 7 years for this to come out. are you telling me he wasn't asked before??

                could it be colbert trying to get billy boy a sniff for any coaching opening this year. was he even asked to interview at any of the vacancies this year after he said he's looking to get back into it

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                • feltdizz
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                  • May 2008
                  • 27531

                  #83
                  Re: Cowher power for crash

                  Originally posted by NJ-STEELER
                  here's a question.

                  why has it taken 7 years for this to come out. are you telling me he wasn't asked before??

                  could it be colbert trying to get billy boy a sniff for any coaching opening this year. was he even asked to interview at any of the vacancies this year after he said he's looking to get back into it


                  The only people sniffing at this story are crazy Steeler fans.

                  Ben was the last guy in the room in NYC on draft day!!!

                  I'm pretty sure this indicates that more than a few coaches and GM's had other guys on their list too...

                  Cowher doesn't need Colberts 7 year old thumbs up to get a whiff at a job. His salary demand is the only thing holding him back from a gig.
                  Steelers 27
                  Rats 16

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                  • Blockhead
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                    • Feb 2011
                    • 298

                    #84
                    Re: Cowher power for crash

                    Originally posted by feltdizz
                    Originally posted by NJ-STEELER
                    here's a question.

                    why has it taken 7 years for this to come out. are you telling me he wasn't asked before??

                    could it be colbert trying to get billy boy a sniff for any coaching opening this year. was he even asked to interview at any of the vacancies this year after he said he's looking to get back into it


                    The only people sniffing at this story are crazy Steeler fans.

                    Ben was the last guy in the room in NYC on draft day!!!

                    I'm pretty sure this indicates that more than a few coaches and GM's had other guys on their list too...

                    Cowher doesn't need Colberts 7 year old thumbs up to get a whiff at a job. His salary demand is the only thing holding him back from a gig.
                    Bill's making over $3 mill a year for his cushy studio job. Why would he come back to coaching and 80 hr work weeks for less than stellar money?

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                    • Crash
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                      • Apr 2009
                      • 5008

                      #85
                      Re: Cowher power for crash

                      I'm pretty sure this indicates that more than a few coaches and GM's had other guys on their list too...
                      The majority of the top 10 already had long twrm commitments to QBs. Once the Browns passed, barring a trade he wasn't going in the top 10.

                      Buffalo wanted to move up to get him, but didn't want to pay the price to get there.

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                      • Blockhead
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                        • Feb 2011
                        • 298

                        #86
                        Re: Cowher power for crash

                        Originally posted by Crash
                        Buffalo wanted to move up to get him, but didn't want to pay the price to get there.
                        Because they also had doubts. If they thought he was a top tier QB, they'd have gladly paid the price. I would imagine if Rivers was still on the board, they'd have gladly moved up and paid the price. He was the higher regarded QB at the time and is still higher regarded by many.

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                        • NJ-STEELER
                          Legend
                          • May 2008
                          • 12563

                          #87
                          Re: Cowher power for crash

                          Originally posted by Crash
                          I'm pretty sure this indicates that more than a few coaches and GM's had other guys on their list too...
                          The majority of the top 10 already had long twrm commitments to QBs. Once the Browns passed, barring a trade he wasn't going in the top 10.

                          Buffalo wanted to move up to get him, but didn't want to pay the price to get there.
                          and still regretting it

                          thank god for us

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                          • Crash
                            Legend
                            • Apr 2009
                            • 5008

                            #88
                            Re: Cowher power for crash

                            Because they also had doubts.
                            Because Tom Donahoe was an idiot who didn't want to part with a 2nd and 4th round pick.

                            And imagine that, he's no longer relevant in today's NFL.

                            He was the higher regarded QB at the time and is still higher regarded by many.
                            Yeah, by fantasy geeks.

                            I'll take the QB who wins championships and Super Bowl rings.

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                            • feltdizz
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                              • May 2008
                              • 27531

                              #89
                              Re: Cowher power for crash

                              Originally posted by Crash
                              I'm pretty sure this indicates that more than a few coaches and GM's had other guys on their list too...
                              The majority of the top 10 already had long twrm commitments to QBs. Once the Browns passed, barring a trade he wasn't going in the top 10.

                              Buffalo wanted to move up to get him, but didn't want to pay the price to get there.
                              I think the look on Ben's face on draft day said it all....

                              teams go back and forth on picks all the time. Not sure why this is a big deal...
                              Steelers 27
                              Rats 16

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                              • Crash
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                                • Apr 2009
                                • 5008

                                #90
                                Re: Cowher power for crash

                                teams go back and forth on picks all the time. Not sure why this is a big deal...
                                That's not what happened here. Cowher and his staff didn't want Ben, and if it wasn't for Rooney speaking up? Ben wouldn't be here.

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