Cowher power for crash

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Admit that Rooney was throwing his weight around?

Where do you get this stuff?

Do you think he just made this up to spare Dan Rooney some type of embarrassment?

I think he made it up to save HIMSELF and COWHER the embarrassment of wanting Andrews over Roethlisberger and having to be saved by Dan Rooney from making a grave mistake that forever would have harmed this franchise.

[Flasteel]

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Admit that Rooney was throwing his weight around?

Where do you get this stuff?

Do you think he just made this up to spare Dan Rooney some type of embarrassment?

I think he made it up to save HIMSELF and COWHER the embarrassment of wanting Andrews over Roethlisberger and having to be saved by Dan Rooney from making a grave mistake that forever would have harmed this franchise.

Why?

He is admitting in this very statement that it was Cowher who deserves the credit...not him. Is it somehow less embarrassing if he stands alone against the Roethlisberger camp?

You are making two very clear statements in your above post.

1. You believe Colbert is lying.
2. Colbert is lying about something that would make him look like the only fool in the room.

A concept you should be quite familiar with by now.

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when you miss the playoffs 4 out of the last 6 years... you better believe you're gonna listen to the man that writes your checks when he makes a suggestion

whats he gonna say "hey old man, look at my record... you should listen to me and pick andrews"

LOL

[RuthlessBurgher]

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A concept you should be quite familiar with by now.

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Admit that Rooney was throwing his weight around?

Where do you get this stuff?

Do you think he just made this up to spare Dan Rooney some type of embarrassment?

I think he made it up to save HIMSELF and COWHER the embarrassment of wanting Andrews over Roethlisberger and having to be saved by Dan Rooney from making a grave mistake that forever would have harmed this franchise.

Why?

He is admitting in this very statement that it was Cowher who deserves the credit...not him. Is it somehow less embarrassing if he stands alone against the Roethlisberger camp?

You are making two very clear statements in your above post.

1. You believe Colbert is lying.
2. Colbert is lying about something that would make him look like the only fool in the room.

A concept you should be quite familiar with by now.

Not I. I have Dan Rooney's own words, and years of media members all saying the same thing Dan did.

Cowher didn't want Ben, he only got there because Rooney spoke up.

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when you miss the playoffs 4 out of the last 6 years... you better believe you're gonna listen to the man that writes your checks when he makes a suggestion

what he gonna say " hey old man, look at my record... you should listen to me"

LOL

Just like 1993 when Cowher tried to change the side the Steelers bench was going to be on.

That lasted one pre-season game, after Steelers STH's phoned in and complained, Dan told him that wasn't going to work.

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According to Dan Rooney himself he steered the conversation back to Ben. Dan is not a scout and would not have vetoed the entire idea if they didn't agree to agree. Clearly, Ben and the other canidates were close in ratings. Having Rivers higher also does not mean they did not want Ben. Having Schaub lower also doesn't mean they didn't want him. The NFL does not allow a player to be selected 11th when they are already selected 4th.

It's not like everyone wanted Andrews and Dan Rooney said, "Nope, we're taking Ben." In his own words, he "steered" the conversation back to Ben. In Colbert's own words, Bill then took over and drove the point ending in a consensus to take Ben. I would imagine difference like this happen all the time and consensus is reached after discussion.

To say Bill did not want Ben under any circumstance or was opposed to drafting him is a FLAT OUT LIE!

[Blockhead]

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when you miss the playoffs 4 out of the last 6 years... you better believe you're gonna listen to the man that writes your checks when he makes a suggestion

whats he gonna say "hey old man, look at my record... you should listen to me and pick andrews"

LOL

When you make the playoffs 2 of the last 3 years, you better believe you're gonna listen to the man that coaches the team as well as the man that writes the checks.

[Flasteel]

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Admit that Rooney was throwing his weight around?

Where do you get this stuff?

Do you think he just made this up to spare Dan Rooney some type of embarrassment?

I think he made it up to save HIMSELF and COWHER the embarrassment of wanting Andrews over Roethlisberger and having to be saved by Dan Rooney from making a grave mistake that forever would have harmed this franchise.

Why?

He is admitting in this very statement that it was Cowher who deserves the credit...not him. Is it somehow less embarrassing if he stands alone against the Roethlisberger camp?

You are making two very clear statements in your above post.

1. You believe Colbert is lying.
2. Colbert is lying about something that would make him look like the only fool in the room.

A concept you should be quite familiar with by now.

Not I. I have Dan Rooney's own words, and years of media members all saying the same thing Dan did.

Cowher didn't want Ben, he only got there because Rooney spoke up.

And 7 years later Kevin Colbert decides to fabricate a scenario where Bill Cowher deserves credit for selling Roethlisberger as the pick.

He decides to undermine the role of Dan Rooney -his boss- and give credit to a guy he no longer works with.

Was he upset after all of these years that Rooney was right and wanted to take a little shine off his star?

Did he owe Bill a solid?

Nobody is claiming that Dan Rooney didn't steer the conversation to Roethlisberger. Your problem is that you see this and Bill Cowher also stumping for him as mutually exclusive possibilities. You have assumed all along that Cowher was among those who wanted Andrews and now Colbert has plainly stated he was Ben's biggest champion in the war room. You lose.

Your only response?

Colbert is lying. Lying for no reason and to his own detriment.

You should feel that logic trap beginning to loosen by now. You have backed yourself into some astoundingly bizarre reasoning. The truth is becoming more evident to you...I can feel it...embrace it Crash...embrace it.

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He decides to undermine the role of Dan Rooney -his boss- and give credit to a guy he no longer works with.

Yet.

By giving credit to Cowher, it's also giving himself an extension of the same credit. Colbert's has been getting big props for the way he's helped "build" this team. How does it look for his own credibility if he admits on the NFL's grandest stage that he and his fellow football people didn't want the teams most important piece in this whole 7 year run and only got him because Dan Rooney walked into the war room?

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He decides to undermine the role of Dan Rooney -his boss- and give credit to a guy he no longer works with.

Yet.

By giving credit to Cowher, it's also giving himself an extension of the same credit. Colbert's has been getting big props for the way he's helped "build" this team. How does it look for his own credibility if he admits on the NFL's grandest stage that he and his fellow football people didn't want the teams most important piece in this whole 7 year run and only got him because Dan Rooney walked into the war room?

I'm sure everyone outside of Cowboys employees, Raiders employees and you realize that is not the way the Steelers make decisions.

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To say Bill did not want Ben under any circumstance or was opposed to drafting him is a FLAT OUT LIE!

If Bill had his choice, Ben wouldn't be there 43.

Thank God for Dan Rooney.

When Norv is finally fired, and Cowher goes there and this is finally confirmed by Cowher because he doesn't know when to shut up? Just make sure to come back under your next alias and admit I was right.

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To say Bill did not want Ben under any circumstance or was opposed to drafting him is a FLAT OUT LIE!

If Bill had his choice, Ben wouldn't be there.

You know more than Kevin Colbert now?

Thank God for Dan Rooney.

It was nice of him to help steer the conversation. I don't think god cares, if there is a god.

When Norv is finally fired, and Cowher goes there and this is finally confirmed by Cowher because he doesn't know when to shut up?

Yes, if Cowher came out and said he had nothing to do with the teams selection of Ben, I would believe it.

If Kevin Colbert comes out and says Bill was the driving force behind the selection of Ben, will you believe it? Wait, What?

If we were fortunate to land Rivers, I'm sure his fortunes would have been different much like if Ben goes to Buffalo, he's possibly out of the league by now. It takes a team to win in the NFL and we all know Ben wins nothing without this team.

[eniparadoxgma]

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If we were fortunate to land Rivers, I'm sure his fortunes would have been different much like if Ben goes to Buffalo, he's possibly out of the league by now. It takes a team to win in the NFL and we all know Ben wins nothing without this team.

When, exactly, did this board become infiltrated with trolls? I can't pinpoint the exact date.

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if Ben goes to Buffalo, he's possibly out of the league by now. It takes a team to win in the NFL and we all know Ben wins nothing without this team.

Ben's won at every level he's ever played in. Cowher won no rings in a decade plus career until Rooney pulled rank. The Steelers were on a downward spiral before Ben arrived. Four of six seasons out of the playoffs proves it.

The Bills were 9-7 in 2004 with past his prime Bledsoe. Now add Ben instead, what happens? They also didn't have QBs when they won 7 games three straight years. Add Ben to those teams, what happens?

The Bills have talent on offense. They lack a legit QB.