Do we have the worst defensive secondary in the NFL?

[birtikidis]

Re: Do we have the worst defensive secondary in the NFL?

We do ok when there's a pass rush.

But LeBeau "the Genius" is taking Timmons who is one of our best blitzers off the field on passing downs and putting Madison on. Wonder why there is no pressure on the QB?????

Ovi, Timmons has had a quad injury for the past three weeks. that's why he has been coming off on passing downs.

[Eddie Spaghetti]

Re: Do we have the worst defensive secondary in the NFL?

felt....the majority would agree with your arguments and wouldn't have to resort to name calling to do so. Thank you for your mature discourse over the past couple of days.

i'm sorry, but this is just ridiculous.

ovi- are you really going to chide other posters for not having "mature discourse" when you are constantly mocking our DC as "saint lebeau" and "the Genious"?

you can't have it both ways pal.

i think the majority of steeler fans understand that the steelers front 7 is the best in the NFL by a wide margin at stopping the run. so naturally teams are going to pass and accumulate yardage. look at the points genius. there were 10 on the road in one of the toughest atmospheres you will find. against a team that is well into the top half off the league in total offense.

this defense is the only reason we are where we are. and thats 1st place.

[NJ-STEELER]

Re: Do we have the worst defensive secondary in the NFL?

how much of that rank on the pats pass D has come in garbage time?

[birtikidis]

Re: Do we have the worst defensive secondary in the NFL?

I think our secondary catches a lot of flak for one player. BMac is terrible. he may be one of the worst corners i've seen wear a steeler uni. it's not a surprise that the vast majority of yards come against him.

[hawaiiansteel]

Re: Do we have the worst defensive secondary in the NFL?

I think our secondary catches a lot of flak for one player. BMac is terrible. he may be one of the worst corners i've seen wear a steeler uni. it's not a surprise that the vast majority of yards come against him.

I agree, BMac was horrible playing for the Cardinals last season and he's continuing his terrible play at CB with the Steelers this season.

if T.O. is BMac's man this Sunday, we will need to give him help with a safety or should we just have Ike follow T.O. around so he doesn't put up similar numbers (10 rec. for 141 yds with 2 TDs) against us like he did in the first meeting?

[Sugar]

Re: Do we have the worst defensive secondary in the NFL?

I think our secondary catches a lot of flak for one player. BMac is terrible. he may be one of the worst corners i've seen wear a steeler uni. it's not a surprise that the vast majority of yards come against him.

I agree, BMac was horrible playing for the Cardinals last season and he's continuing his terrible play at CB with the Steelers this season.

if T.O. is BMac's man this Sunday, we will need to give him help with a safety or should we just have Ike follow T.O. around so he doesn't put up similar numbers (10 rec. for 141 yds with 2 TDs) against us like he did in the first meeting?

Wouldn't that mean that BMac would cover Ocho though? The guy hasn't been great against us, but that's probably because of Ike.

[birtikidis]

Re: Do we have the worst defensive secondary in the NFL?

I think our secondary catches a lot of flak for one player. BMac is terrible. he may be one of the worst corners i've seen wear a steeler uni. it's not a surprise that the vast majority of yards come against him.

I agree, BMac was horrible playing for the Cardinals last season and he's continuing his terrible play at CB with the Steelers this season.

if T.O. is BMac's man this Sunday, we will need to give him help with a safety or should we just have Ike follow T.O. around so he doesn't put up similar numbers (10 rec. for 141 yds with 2 TDs) against us like he did in the first meeting?

Wouldn't that mean that BMac would cover Ocho though? The guy hasn't been great against us, but that's probably because of Ike.

I think you can put BMac and a safety on chode and be alright. TO has much more of a motor then chode. I'm hoping Timmons is 100% bc i could see Gresham being a chore for Farrior.

[hawaiiansteel]

Re: Do we have the worst defensive secondary in the NFL?

I think our secondary catches a lot of flak for one player. BMac is terrible. he may be one of the worst corners i've seen wear a steeler uni. it's not a surprise that the vast majority of yards come against him.

I agree, BMac was horrible playing for the Cardinals last season and he's continuing his terrible play at CB with the Steelers this season.

if T.O. is BMac's man this Sunday, we will need to give him help with a safety or should we just have Ike follow T.O. around so he doesn't put up similar numbers (10 rec. for 141 yds with 2 TDs) against us like he did in the first meeting?

Wouldn't that mean that BMac would cover Ocho though? The guy hasn't been great against us, but that's probably because of Ike.

maybe BMac can bring a Snuggie along to help cover OchoStinko...

[feltdizz]

Re: Do we have the worst defensive secondary in the NFL?

felt....the majority would agree with your arguments and wouldn't have to resort to name calling to do so. Thank you for your mature discourse over the past couple of days.

i'm sorry, but this is just ridiculous.

ovi- are you really going to chide other posters for not having "mature discourse" when you are constantly mocking our DC as "saint lebeau" and "the Genious"?

you can't have it both ways pal.

i think the majority of steeler fans understand that the steelers front 7 is the best in the NFL by a wide margin at stopping the run. so naturally teams are going to pass and accumulate yardage. look at the points genius. there were 10 on the road in one of the toughest atmospheres you will find. against a team that is well into the top half off the league in total offense.

this defense is the only reason we are where we are. and thats 1st place.

Ovie calls him St. Lebeau because most members call BA the spawn of Satan and blamed BA when the D was getting abused last year.

I think its a stretch to compare his sarcasm to blatant name calling because you don't agree with someone

Now about that D holding Baltimore to 10 points. That isn't shocking.... That is what this rivalry is all about. Points are hard to come by in most games between these 2 teams.

[NorthCoast]

Re: Do we have the worst defensive secondary in the NFL?

I think our secondary catches a lot of flak for one player. BMac is terrible. he may be one of the worst corners i've seen wear a steeler uni. it's not a surprise that the vast majority of yards come against him.

I agree, BMac was horrible playing for the Cardinals last season and he's continuing his terrible play at CB with the Steelers this season.

if T.O. is BMac's man this Sunday, we will need to give him help with a safety or should we just have Ike follow T.O. around so he doesn't put up similar numbers (10 rec. for 141 yds with 2 TDs) against us like he did in the first meeting?

If BMac is as obviously bad as what you guys are saying, why wouldn't LeBeau sub in Butler or Lewis? Answer: BMac tackles very well, but does not defend the pass well. LeBeau is obviously trying to limit YACs, it is the only plausible explanation for keeping BMac on the field.

[feltdizz]

Re: Do we have the worst defensive secondary in the NFL?

BMac is a very good tackler...

[Oviedo]

Re: Do we have the worst defensive secondary in the NFL?

felt....the majority would agree with your arguments and wouldn't have to resort to name calling to do so. Thank you for your mature discourse over the past couple of days.

i'm sorry, but this is just ridiculous.

ovi- are you really going to chide other posters for not having "mature discourse" when you are constantly mocking our DC as "saint lebeau" and "the Genious"?

you can't have it both ways pal.

i think the majority of steeler fans understand that the steelers front 7 is the best in the NFL by a wide margin at stopping the run. so naturally teams are going to pass and accumulate yardage. look at the points genius. there were 10 on the road in one of the toughest atmospheres you will find. against a team that is well into the top half off the league in total offense.

this defense is the only reason we are where we are. and thats 1st place.

Ovie calls him St. Lebeau because most members call BA the spawn of Satan and blamed BA when the D was getting abused last year.

I think its a stretch to compare his sarcasm to blatant name calling because you don't agree with someone

Now about that D holding Baltimore to 10 points. That isn't shocking.... That is what this rivalry is all about. Points are hard to come by in most games between these 2 teams.

Thanks Feltz and you are correct. I tongue in cheek coined that phrase because I was trying to stimulate some discussion about our defense and trends I believe that are becoming recurring problems. Mostly it is as you stated because DLB nevers gets critically evaluated and any failures on that side of the football were constantly being blamed on the offense, e.g. so holy and sacred as not to be questioned.

And I challenge anyone who would like to find any post where I have directly called another poster an "idiot," 'moron" or "stupid". Good luck because I don't do that and if I ever had it was a rare rare exception.

I would also not be offended in the future if anyone is so put off by what I post to put me on "Ignore." I actually encourage it.

[papillon]

Re: Do we have the worst defensive secondary in the NFL?

felt....the majority would agree with your arguments and wouldn't have to resort to name calling to do so. Thank you for your mature discourse over the past couple of days.

i'm sorry, but this is just ridiculous.

ovi- are you really going to chide other posters for not having "mature discourse" when you are constantly mocking our DC as "saint lebeau" and "the Genious"?

you can't have it both ways pal.

i think the majority of steeler fans understand that the steelers front 7 is the best in the NFL by a wide margin at stopping the run. so naturally teams are going to pass and accumulate yardage. look at the points genius. there were 10 on the road in one of the toughest atmospheres you will find. against a team that is well into the top half off the league in total offense.

this defense is the only reason we are where we are. and thats 1st place.

Ovie calls him St. Lebeau because most members call BA the spawn of Satan and blamed BA when the D was getting abused last year.

I think its a stretch to compare his sarcasm to blatant name calling because you don't agree with someone

Now about that D holding Baltimore to 10 points. That isn't shocking.... That is what this rivalry is all about. Points are hard to come by in most games between these 2 teams.

Thanks Feltz and you are correct. I tongue in cheek coined that phrase because I was trying to stimulate some discussion about our defense and trends I believe that are becoming recurring problems. Mostly it is as you stated because DLB nevers gets critically evaluated and any failures on that side of the football were constantly being blamed on the offense, e.g. so holy and sacred as not to be questioned.

And I challenge anyone who would like to find any post where I have directly called another poster an "idiot," 'moron" or "stupid". Good luck because I don't do that and if I ever had it was a rare rare exception.

I would also not be offended in the future if anyone is so put off by what I post to put me on "Ignore." I actually encourage it.

On "Ignore" done! :P

Pappy

[Oviedo]

Re: Do we have the worst defensive secondary in the NFL?

felt....the majority would agree with your arguments and wouldn't have to resort to name calling to do so. Thank you for your mature discourse over the past couple of days.

i'm sorry, but this is just ridiculous.

ovi- are you really going to chide other posters for not having "mature discourse" when you are constantly mocking our DC as "saint lebeau" and "the Genious"?

you can't have it both ways pal.

i think the majority of steeler fans understand that the steelers front 7 is the best in the NFL by a wide margin at stopping the run. so naturally teams are going to pass and accumulate yardage. look at the points genius. there were 10 on the road in one of the toughest atmospheres you will find. against a team that is well into the top half off the league in total offense.

this defense is the only reason we are where we are. and thats 1st place.

Ovie calls him St. Lebeau because most members call BA the spawn of Satan and blamed BA when the D was getting abused last year.

I think its a stretch to compare his sarcasm to blatant name calling because you don't agree with someone

Now about that D holding Baltimore to 10 points. That isn't shocking.... That is what this rivalry is all about. Points are hard to come by in most games between these 2 teams.

Thanks Feltz and you are correct. I tongue in cheek coined that phrase because I was trying to stimulate some discussion about our defense and trends I believe that are becoming recurring problems. Mostly it is as you stated because DLB nevers gets critically evaluated and any failures on that side of the football were constantly being blamed on the offense, e.g. so holy and sacred as not to be questioned.

And I challenge anyone who would like to find any post where I have directly called another poster an "idiot," 'moron" or "stupid". Good luck because I don't do that and if I ever had it was a rare rare exception.

I would also not be offended in the future if anyone is so put off by what I post to put me on "Ignore." I actually encourage it.

On "Ignore" done! :P

Pappy

You won't be able to see this but good

[SteelTorch]

Re: Do we have the worst defensive secondary in the NFL?

Still hating, haters?