Sorry Folks But Ben is Gone...

[StarSpangledSteeler]

Re: Sorry Folks But Ben is Gone...

Sounds like a a case of a hammered chick and Ben liking each other, he says "meet me in the bathroom" and he has his "boys" take her there and make sure no one else comes in. Ben goes in, they have sex, but she is so wasted that afterward she thinks maybe she didn't consent. I don't believe for one minute that he raped her. But he is certainly a dumb bad word for going into the restroom with her to begin with.

For the record, I don't think he will be traded, but the media will milk this out until the draft anyway. By the end of next Thursday, all this crap will get quiet.

I agree with just about everything you said.

On another side note, the doctors found practically no semen on the girl (and they couldn't tell whose it was). That seems strange. Not to get too graphic here but if Ben was really raping her why would he not finish the job.

[Discipline of Steel]

Re: Sorry Folks But Ben is Gone...

Sounds like a a case of a hammered chick and Ben liking each other, he says "meet me in the bathroom" and he has his "boys" take her there and make sure no one else comes in. Ben goes in, they have sex, but she is so wasted that afterward she thinks maybe she didn't consent. I don't believe for one minute that he raped her. But he is certainly a dumb bad word for going into the restroom with her to begin with.

For the record, I don't think he will be traded, but the media will milk this out until the draft anyway. By the end of next Thursday, all this crap will get quiet.

I agree with just about everything you said.

On another side note, the doctors found practically no semen on the girl (and they couldn't tell whose it was). That seems strange. Not to get too graphic here but if Ben was really raping her why would he not finish the job.

Alcohol inspired ED?

[feltdizz]

Re: Sorry Folks But Ben is Gone...

Sounds like a a case of a hammered chick and Ben liking each other, he says "meet me in the bathroom" and he has his "boys" take her there and make sure no one else comes in. Ben goes in, they have sex, but she is so wasted that afterward she thinks maybe she didn't consent. I don't believe for one minute that he raped her. But he is certainly a dumb bad word for going into the restroom with her to begin with.

For the record, I don't think he will be traded, but the media will milk this out until the draft anyway. By the end of next Thursday, all this crap will get quiet.

I agree with just about everything you said.

On another side note, the doctors found practically no semen on the girl (and they couldn't tell whose it was). That seems strange. Not to get too graphic here but if Ben was really raping her why would he not finish the job.

children are expensive...

[Sugar]

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Children are indeed expensive, but wouldn't there be some "evidence" on her clothes or in the bathroom or something?

[ghettoscott]

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..... And I think this is best for the Steelers.

[JAR]

Re: Sorry Folks But Ben is Gone...

Sounds like a a case of a hammered chick and Ben liking each other, he says "meet me in the bathroom" and he has his "boys" take her there and make sure no one else comes in. Ben goes in, they have sex, but she is so wasted that afterward she thinks maybe she didn't consent. I don't believe for one minute that he raped her. But he is certainly a dumb bad word for going into the restroom with her to begin with.

For the record, I don't think he will be traded, but the media will milk this out until the draft anyway. By the end of next Thursday, all this crap will get quiet.

I agree with just about everything you said.

On another side note, the doctors found practically no semen on the girl (and they couldn't tell whose it was). That seems strange. Not to get too graphic here but if Ben was really raping her why would he not finish the job.

Other things leave DNA too, skin cells, hair, etc but the sample was way too minute, it was probably from the guy she had the night before.

[stlrz d]

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you want to trade ben on the word of some drunk bad word college bimbo and her sorority sisters and draft tim tebow as his replacement.

that must be what football hell is like.

LOL! No sheeeeeit!

I predict the OP will be wrong...dead wrong. These statements are all from the accuser and her friends...what would people expect them to say?

This proves nothing...if it did Ben would be in jail, not at OTAs.

[Lebsteel]

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Ben to Buffalo? Per Florio, it would be a good fit:
[url]http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/36575728/ns/sports-nfl/[/url]

[BURGH86STEEL]

Re: Sorry Folks But Ben is Gone...

I don't know if Ben will be traded or not. I believe there are some discussions being held within the organization about Ben's future with the Steelers.

I wonder if Ben sorry for his actions or if he feels like what happened was not a big deal. His sincerity or lack of, might go a long way to determining his future with the Steelers.

[Shawn]

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It does make me wonder about the bodyguards. Aren't they off-duty cops? If so, wouldn't there be an IA investigation if they were involved in this as has been testified?

Yes they are. I have to believe the stories of two sober cops than a bunch of drunk sorority girls out looking to get laid and advertising it.

off-duty Pennsylvania State Trooper Trooper Ed Joyner and off-duty Coraopolis police officer Anthony J. Barravecchio.

The alleged victim was wearing a nametag labeled "DTF" When asked, she said it stood for "down to bad word." Roethlisberger replied, "I'm not down to bad word, but I like to bad word girls."

[url="http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=DTF&defid=2884963"]http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.p ... id=2884963[/url]

Wow...never heard that before. So, this very drunk girl was wearing a DTF nametag? If she went willingly into that bathroom how on this green earth could anyone think this was a rape case? Some here seem so sure of it.

I do not believe Ben is a rapist but I do believe he is an embarassment.

And for the record I do not believe Ben will be traded. Reading the statement...the Steelers and the NFL with a coordinated effort in the suspension...and all the other stuff about him proving to the city yada yada...no way do I see anything other than Ben staying with the Steelers.

Dee you are wrong. I hope you are willing to admit it when the time comes.

[papillon]

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Children are indeed expensive, but wouldn't there be some "evidence" on her clothes or in the bathroom or something?

In her stomach...

Pappy

[Shawn]

Re: Sorry Folks But Ben is Gone...

Ben to Buffalo? Per Florio, it would be a good fit:
[url]http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/36575728/ns/sports-nfl/[/url]

That article was pure silliness and absurd speculation. Do I think the Steelers will listen to offers? Absolutely. But, to think the Steelers would trade off their franchise QB for one first round draft pick is absurd. I don't care if he teabagged Tomlin's wife they will be looking for at least 2 first round picks. And possibly two first round picks and a player. It would be an absolute bidding war for a QB of Roethlisbergers ability. Other teams don't have some of the moral boundries that the Steelers have. Most NFL teams want butts in the seats and numbers in the win column.

And let me say this...I'm shocked at how many fans want to see Roethlisberger traded. It would be the end of our days as a competitive team. We wouldn't break 7 wins next season without Ben. Do I want Ben punished? Yup. Humbled? Absolutely. But, traded...no way.

[papillon]

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Some additional disturbing news (or lies) about that fateful evening in Georgia:
[url]http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2010/0415101roethlisberger1.html[/url]

Way too much to paste here, but those sorority gals are saying Ben came after the girl with his "little Ben" already out of his pants! Come on! Seriously? I doubt it, BUT if he did that, I hope we would kick his butt straight to Seattle (and get some draft picks in return)

A few things about the police report that I find interesting.

Clearly, it's written by the alleged victim, because, it's written in first person.
"I said no and then we had sex." If she was forced into sex wouldn't there be more detail about using force, his superior size, threatening her? The other thing, if it was done against her will, wouldn't she have screamed, kicked, yelled, etc?

One other thing that is noticeable about the report and I'm not sure what this means. It was written in her hand and she was a .2 BAC at the time or potentially higher and the report is legible. How can that be? BAC that high and able to write between the lines, not one sentence out of place, the chronology of the events is perfect, something is amiss.

Pappy

[stlrz d]

Re: Sorry Folks But Ben is Gone...

Some additional disturbing news (or lies) about that fateful evening in Georgia:
[url]http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2010/0415101roethlisberger1.html[/url]

Way too much to paste here, but those sorority gals are saying Ben came after the girl with his "little Ben" already out of his pants! Come on! Seriously? I doubt it, BUT if he did that, I hope we would kick his butt straight to Seattle (and get some draft picks in return)

A few things about the police report that I find interesting.

Clearly, it's written by the alleged victim, because, it's written in first person.
"I said no and then we had sex." If she was forced into sex wouldn't there be more detail about using force, his superior size, threatening her? The other thing, if it was done against her will, wouldn't she have screamed, kicked, yelled, etc?

One other thing that is noticeable about the report and I'm not sure what this means. It was written in her hand and she was a .2 BAC at the time or potentially higher and the report is legible. How can that be? BAC that high and able to write between the lines, not one sentence out of place, the chronology of the events is perfect, something is amiss.

Pappy

Some of us have been saying that for awhile now.

[papillon]

Re: Sorry Folks But Ben is Gone...

Some additional disturbing news (or lies) about that fateful evening in Georgia:
[url]http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2010/0415101roethlisberger1.html[/url]

Way too much to paste here, but those sorority gals are saying Ben came after the girl with his "little Ben" already out of his pants! Come on! Seriously? I doubt it, BUT if he did that, I hope we would kick his butt straight to Seattle (and get some draft picks in return)

A few things about the police report that I find interesting.

Clearly, it's written by the alleged victim, because, it's written in first person.
"I said no and then we had sex." If she was forced into sex wouldn't there be more detail about using force, his superior size, threatening her? The other thing, if it was done against her will, wouldn't she have screamed, kicked, yelled, etc?

One other thing that is noticeable about the report and I'm not sure what this means. It was written in her hand and she was a .2 BAC at the time or potentially higher and the report is legible. How can that be? BAC that high and able to write between the lines, not one sentence out of place, the chronology of the events is perfect, something is amiss.

Pappy

Some of us have been saying that for awhile now.

The story is credible; it follows the events of the evening as they have been reported. Maybe, she told the story and someone else wrote down the words, because she was too intoxicated. something being amiss could simply mean that I don't understand police protocol in a situation when the victim is intoxicated and can't write the report. It doesn't mean that I believe Ben is innocent.

Pappy