Sorry Folks But Ben is Gone...

[NJ-STEELER]

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why wouldn't the DA file charges if indeed the statement of the girl and her friends were true?

sounds like an open and shut case in their staements.

what were the "inconsistencies" the DA talked about in his presser

[Sugar]

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Does anyone really think that ESPN or others would start their broadcast by saying "Ben's accuser was drunk off her a$$!" or "Medical facts doesn't support Ben's accuser!"...of course not, that just won't bring 'em in. First you reveal the salacious comments & then you remind everyone that he wasn't charged due to lack of evidence - that way the gossipy stuff sticks.

Everyone of any importance already knew this info/version of events & it was right or so damaging, there would've been charges right?...or am I in bizarro world? I hope that Goodell gets to look at the information that Ed Garland found out & it gets leaked out for us to consider.

The DA knew all this stuff and still couldn't charge him. If she went to the cops as quickly as she did and he had done her than one would think that they would have had plenty of physical evidence that wouldn't have required her cooperation. Maybe not, but the story isn't passing the smell test.

[feltdizz]

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why wouldn't the DA file charges if indeed the statement of the girl and her friends were true?

sounds like an open and shut case in their staements.

what were the "inconsistencies" the DA talked about in his presser

DA's look for consistency and I think her intoxication makes it hard to get a clear story.

I also think her request to not go forward (pay off was made) makes it harder to go forward.

I also read about bleeding and bruised genitals but without enough DNA who knows? Did the bar ever release the tape of the night in question?

Body guards erasing the photos is also disturbing... maybe Goodell's spygate destruction was put in place.

[JAR]

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why wouldn't the DA file charges if indeed the statement of the girl and her friends were true?

sounds like an open and shut case in their staements.

what were the "inconsistencies" the DA talked about in his presser

DA's look for consistency and I think her intoxication makes it hard to get a clear story.

I also think her request to not go forward (pay off was made) makes it harder to go forward.

I also read about bleeding and bruised genitals but without enough DNA who knows? Did the bar ever release the tape of the night in question?

Body guards erasing the photos is also disturbing... maybe Goodell's spygate destruction was put in place.

Erasing photos isn't disturbing. Camera phones are an invasion of privacy. Why should he have to have his pictures plastered all over the place no matter what he was doing. Would you like your pics everywhere you look?

[Sugar]

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It does make me wonder about the bodyguards. Aren't they off-duty cops? If so, wouldn't there be an IA investigation if they were involved in this as has been testified?

[birtikidis]

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Would you like your pics everywhere you look?

why yes I would. but i'm generally thought of as being conceited.

[NJ-STEELER]

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screw that girl if she was raped and accepted a payoff


shame on her to minimize such a heinous crime.


i thought i read the girl's family had money...why would she need to accept a money deal then?

IMO, if there was a money deal, it was a money grab case from the start

[JAR]

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It does make me wonder about the bodyguards. Aren't they off-duty cops? If so, wouldn't there be an IA investigation if they were involved in this as has been testified?

Yes they are. I have to believe the stories of two sober cops than a bunch of drunk sorority girls out looking to get laid and advertising it.

off-duty Pennsylvania State Trooper Trooper Ed Joyner and off-duty Coraopolis police officer Anthony J. Barravecchio.

The alleged victim was wearing a nametag labeled "DTF" When asked, she said it stood for "down to bad word." Roethlisberger replied, "I'm not down to bad word, but I like to bad word girls."

[url="http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=DTF&defid=2884963"]http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.p ... id=2884963[/url]

[Lebsteel]

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Some additional disturbing news (or lies) about that fateful evening in Georgia:
[url]http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2010/0415101roethlisberger1.html[/url]

Way too much to paste here, but those sorority gals are saying Ben came after the girl with his "little Ben" already out of his pants! Come on! Seriously? I doubt it, BUT if he did that, I hope we would kick his butt straight to Seattle (and get some draft picks in return)

[feltdizz]

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why wouldn't the DA file charges if indeed the statement of the girl and her friends were true?

sounds like an open and shut case in their staements.

what were the "inconsistencies" the DA talked about in his presser

DA's look for consistency and I think her intoxication makes it hard to get a clear story.

I also think her request to not go forward (pay off was made) makes it harder to go forward.

I also read about bleeding and bruised genitals but without enough DNA who knows? Did the bar ever release the tape of the night in question?

Body guards erasing the photos is also disturbing... maybe Goodell's spygate destruction was put in place.

Erasing photos isn't disturbing. Camera phones are an invasion of privacy. Why should he have to have his pictures plastered all over the place no matter what he was doing. Would you like your pics everywhere you look?

It's disturbing if it was done after the incident... if it was being done all night then it's nothing.

and what happened to the tape from the club? Just sayin.

Ben is a SB winning QB... I think he knows what he is in for when he goes out in public. Then again...

[NW Steeler]

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Sounds like a a case of a hammered chick and Ben liking each other, he says "meet me in the bathroom" and he has his "boys" take her there and make sure no one else comes in. Ben goes in, they have sex, but she is so wasted that afterward she thinks maybe she didn't consent. I don't believe for one minute that he raped her. But he is certainly a dumb ass for going into the restroom with her to begin with.

For the record, I don't think he will be traded, but the media will milk this out until the draft anyway. By the end of next Thursday, all this crap will get quiet.

[Sugar]

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Sounds like a a case of a hammered chick and Ben liking each other, he says "meet me in the bathroom" and he has his "boys" take her there and make sure no one else comes in. Ben goes in, they have sex, but she is so wasted that afterward she thinks maybe she didn't consent. I don't believe for one minute that he raped her. But he is certainly a dumb bad word for going into the restroom with her to begin with.

For the record, I don't think he will be traded, but the media will milk this out until the draft anyway. By the end of next Thursday, all this crap will get quiet.

I tend to agree with that version a bit more. I'm sure her "sisters" had some ideas too- the big knocks against McNulty were that she waited too long and that there were never any criminal charges- she went straight for the loot. These girls weren't going to make that mistake.

[RuthlessBurgher]

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I predict that before the the NFL draft next week the Pittsburgh Steelers will trade Ben Roethlisberger. With the latest about Ben's body guards dragging this woman into the bathroom (ESPN), and now her coming out saying she said "NO" (CNNSI), to Ben I think the ugliness and embarrassment for the Steelers is not going to go away. And I think ownership has had enough. Todays press conference in my opinion was merely to alert the league that he is available. And I believe they leaked a couple of things through the media ([url="http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d8178b2b1&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true"]http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d ... nfirm=true[/url] [url="http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/article/2010-04-15/will-steelers-entertain-trade-offers-for-ben-roethlisberger"]http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/article ... hlisberger[/url]), to alert other teams they will take offers.

For them to say that no discipline will occur till after the draft is washing their hands of having to do it since they plan on trading him.

So I am officially on record as saying that Ben Roethlisberger is going to be traded with in one week. And I think this is best for the Steelers.

I believe that 69th overall pick from the Raiders is still available.

[WoodleyofTroy]

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I predict that before the the NFL draft next week the Pittsburgh Steelers will trade Ben Roethlisberger. With the latest about Ben's body guards dragging this woman into the bathroom (ESPN), and now her coming out saying she said "NO" (CNNSI), to Ben I think the ugliness and embarrassment for the Steelers is not going to go away. And I think ownership has had enough. Todays press conference in my opinion was merely to alert the league that he is available. And I believe they leaked a couple of things through the media ([url="http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d8178b2b1&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true"]http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d ... nfirm=true[/url] [url="http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/article/2010-04-15/will-steelers-entertain-trade-offers-for-ben-roethlisberger"]http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/article ... hlisberger[/url]), to alert other teams they will take offers.

For them to say that no discipline will occur till after the draft is washing their hands of having to do it since they plan on trading him.

So I am officially on record as saying that Ben Roethlisberger is going to be traded with in one week. And I think this is best for the Steelers.

I believe that 69th overall pick from the Raiders is still available.

ha

[calmkiller]

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and then the curse of the Benbino begins...
Another 30 years before we get a QB?

As a collective group our QB's from 1983 to 2004 were the epitomy of mediocrity. Trade Ben and it will be another 20 years or so of journeymen QB's running the Steelers offense.

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