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  • JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
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    • May 2008
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    #16
    Re: Since we draft 18th, gimme 18 guys you'd be willing to draft

    (Rubbing crystal ball...Post combine.)


    1. Russell Okung, OT, Oklahoma State
    2. Eric Berry, S, Tennessee
    3. Gerald McCoy, DT, Oklahoma
    4. Ndamukong Suh, DT, Nebraska
    5. Bryan Bulaga, OT, Iowa
    6. Joe Haden, CB, Florida
    7. Anthony Davis, OT, Rutgers
    8. Trent Williams, OT, Oklahoma
    9. Dan Williams, NT, Tennessee
    10. Sean Weatherspoon, ILB, Missouri
    11. Rolando McClain, ILB, Alabama (Yes, I like Weatherspoon better!)
    12. CJ Spiller, RB, Clemson
    13. Maurkice Pouncey, C, Florida
    14. Bruce Campbell, OT, Maryland
    15. Earl Thomas, FS/CB, Texas
    16. Taylor Mays, S, USC
    17. Jared Odrick, DE, Penn State
    18. Brandon Graham, DE/OLB, Michigan

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    • Oviedo
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      • May 2008
      • 23824

      #17
      Re: Since we draft 18th, gimme 18 guys you'd be willing to draft

      1. Gerald McCoy, DT, Oklahoma
      2. Ndamukong Suh, DT, Nebraska
      3. Eric Berry, S, Tennessee
      4. Rolando McClain, ILB, Alabama
      5. CJ Spiller, RB, Clemson
      6. Dan Williams, NT, Tennessee
      7. Russell Okung, OT, Oklahoma State
      8. Joe Haden, CB, Florida
      9. Bryan Bulaga, OT, Iowa
      10. Jared Odrick, DE, Penn State
      11. Taylor Mays, S, USC
      12. Trent Williams, OT, Oklahoma
      13. Brandon Graham, DE/OLB, Michigan
      14. Sean Weatherspoon, ILB, Missouri
      15. Carlos Dunlap, DE, Florida
      16. Mike Iupati, G, Iadaho
      17. Anthony Davis, OT, Rutgers
      18. Kyle Wilson, CB, Boise State
      "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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      • RuthlessBurgher
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        #18
        Re: Since we draft 18th, gimme 18 guys you'd be willing to draft

        Originally posted by JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
        (Rubbing crystal ball...Post combine.)


        1. Russell Okung, OT, Oklahoma State
        2. Eric Berry, S, Tennessee
        3. Gerald McCoy, DT, Oklahoma
        4. Ndamukong Suh, DT, Nebraska
        5. Bryan Bulaga, OT, Iowa
        6. Joe Haden, CB, Florida
        7. Anthony Davis, OT, Rutgers
        8. Trent Williams, OT, Oklahoma
        9. Dan Williams, NT, Tennessee
        10. Sean Weatherspoon, ILB, Missouri
        11. Rolando McClain, ILB, Alabama (Yes, I like Weatherspoon better!)
        12. CJ Spiller, RB, Clemson
        13. Maurkice Pouncey, C, Florida
        14. Bruce Campbell, OT, Maryland
        15. Earl Thomas, FS/CB, Texas
        16. Taylor Mays, S, USC
        17. Jared Odrick, DE, Penn State
        18. Brandon Graham, DE/OLB, Michigan
        I like that you made the Weatherspoon over McClain statement. I don't necessarily agree with it myself, but a thread like this is good to unearth little opinion nuggets like that. Bold proclamation.
        Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

        Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

        We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

        We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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        • RuthlessBurgher
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          • May 2008
          • 33208

          #19
          Re: Since we draft 18th, gimme 18 guys you'd be willing to draft

          Originally posted by Oviedo
          1. Gerald McCoy, DT, Oklahoma
          2. Ndamukong Suh, DT, Nebraska
          3. Eric Berry, S, Tennessee
          4. Rolando McClain, ILB, Alabama
          5. CJ Spiller, RB, Clemson
          6. Dan Williams, NT, Tennessee
          7. Russell Okung, OT, Oklahoma State
          8. Joe Haden, CB, Florida
          9. Bryan Bulaga, OT, Iowa
          10. Jared Odrick, DE, Penn State
          11. Taylor Mays, S, USC
          12. Trent Williams, OT, Oklahoma
          13. Brandon Graham, DE/OLB, Michigan
          14. Sean Weatherspoon, ILB, Missouri
          15. Carlos Dunlap, DE, Florida
          16. Mike Iupati, G, Iadaho
          17. Anthony Davis, OT, Rutgers
          18. Kyle Wilson, CB, Boise State
          I was wondering how high you'd put Spiller. I'm surprised to see Anthony Davis behind Iupati. I don't like the Dunlap inclusion at all. Although his body type at 6'6" 280 lbs. could make him a 3-4 DE prospect (and an incredibly athletic one at that), his inconsistency, laziness, sloppy play, and overall poor intangibles make me think that he is just a bigger version of former Gator Huey Richardson.
          Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

          Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

          We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

          We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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          • Oviedo
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            • May 2008
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            #20
            Re: Since we draft 18th, gimme 18 guys you'd be willing to draft

            Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
            Originally posted by Oviedo
            1. Gerald McCoy, DT, Oklahoma
            2. Ndamukong Suh, DT, Nebraska
            3. Eric Berry, S, Tennessee
            4. Rolando McClain, ILB, Alabama
            5. CJ Spiller, RB, Clemson
            6. Dan Williams, NT, Tennessee
            7. Russell Okung, OT, Oklahoma State
            8. Joe Haden, CB, Florida
            9. Bryan Bulaga, OT, Iowa
            10. Jared Odrick, DE, Penn State
            11. Taylor Mays, S, USC
            12. Trent Williams, OT, Oklahoma
            13. Brandon Graham, DE/OLB, Michigan
            14. Sean Weatherspoon, ILB, Missouri
            15. Carlos Dunlap, DE, Florida
            16. Mike Iupati, G, Iadaho
            17. Anthony Davis, OT, Rutgers
            18. Kyle Wilson, CB, Boise State
            I was wondering how high you'd put Spiller. I'm surprised to see Anthony Davis behind Iupati. I don't like the Dunlap inclusion at all. Although his body type at 6'6" 280 lbs. could make him a 3-4 DE prospect (and an incredibly athletic one at that), his inconsistency, laziness, sloppy play, and overall poor intangibles make me think that he is just a bigger version of former Gator Huey Richardson.
            I was going to put Spiller #1 just to see your head explode but then realized I wouldn't be able to see that

            I think Dunlap will be much better than many think. I put Iupati ahead of Davis because I think Iupati has more upside.
            "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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            • JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
              Hall of Famer
              • May 2008
              • 3937

              #21
              Re: Since we draft 18th, gimme 18 guys you'd be willing to draft

              Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
              Originally posted by JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
              (Rubbing crystal ball...Post combine.)


              1. Russell Okung, OT, Oklahoma State
              2. Eric Berry, S, Tennessee
              3. Gerald McCoy, DT, Oklahoma
              4. Ndamukong Suh, DT, Nebraska
              5. Bryan Bulaga, OT, Iowa
              6. Joe Haden, CB, Florida
              7. Anthony Davis, OT, Rutgers
              8. Trent Williams, OT, Oklahoma
              9. Dan Williams, NT, Tennessee
              10. Sean Weatherspoon, ILB, Missouri
              11. Rolando McClain, ILB, Alabama (Yes, I like Weatherspoon better!)
              12. CJ Spiller, RB, Clemson
              13. Maurkice Pouncey, C, Florida
              14. Bruce Campbell, OT, Maryland
              15. Earl Thomas, FS/CB, Texas
              16. Taylor Mays, S, USC
              17. Jared Odrick, DE, Penn State
              18. Brandon Graham, DE/OLB, Michigan
              I like that you made the Weatherspoon over McClain statement. I don't necessarily agree with it myself, but a thread like this is good to unearth little opinion nuggets like that. Bold proclamation.
              McClain really benefitted from having Cody in front of him. His long arms and instincts gets him around the ball at the college level. He is not a good blitzer. He gets stoned because he comes in too high. He is more of a wrap up tackler. He isn't good at changing direction and lumbers upright when he runs through traffic. He isn't good in space and will struggle in man coverage at the next level. He will be a two down LB. He will be one of those players that is ready for the field out of the gates because of instincts and experience. His upside is limited and in 2-3 years he could flatten out. I actually like Spikes better than McClain in coverage & blitzing. McClains intincts are far better than Spikes. Weatherspoon has the most upside out of the three. The sky is the limited for him because of his athleticism. McClain & Spikes will be solid starters in the NFL but Spoon, in my opinion, will be special. Derrick Brooks special.

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              • Oviedo
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                • May 2008
                • 23824

                #22
                Re: Since we draft 18th, gimme 18 guys you'd be willing to draft

                [quote=JUST-PLAIN-NASTY]
                Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
                Originally posted by "JUST-PLAIN-NASTY":1ivw06nn
                (Rubbing crystal ball...Post combine.)


                1. Russell Okung, OT, Oklahoma State
                2. Eric Berry, S, Tennessee
                3. Gerald McCoy, DT, Oklahoma
                4. Ndamukong Suh, DT, Nebraska
                5. Bryan Bulaga, OT, Iowa
                6. Joe Haden, CB, Florida
                7. Anthony Davis, OT, Rutgers
                8. Trent Williams, OT, Oklahoma
                9. Dan Williams, NT, Tennessee
                10. Sean Weatherspoon, ILB, Missouri
                11. Rolando McClain, ILB, Alabama (Yes, I like Weatherspoon better!)
                12. CJ Spiller, RB, Clemson
                13. Maurkice Pouncey, C, Florida
                14. Bruce Campbell, OT, Maryland
                15. Earl Thomas, FS/CB, Texas
                16. Taylor Mays, S, USC
                17. Jared Odrick, DE, Penn State
                18. Brandon Graham, DE/OLB, Michigan
                I like that you made the Weatherspoon over McClain statement. I don't necessarily agree with it myself, but a thread like this is good to unearth little opinion nuggets like that. Bold proclamation.
                McClain really benefitted from having Cody in front of him. His long arms and instincts gets him around the ball at the college level. He is not a good blitzer. He gets stoned because he comes in too high. He is more of a wrap up tackler. He isn't good at changing direction and lumbers upright when he runs through traffic. He isn't good in space and will struggle in man coverage at the next level. He will be a two down LB. He will be one of those players that is ready for the field out of the gates because of instincts and experience. His upside is limited and in 2-3 years he could flatten out. I actually like Spikes better than McClain in coverage & blitzing. McClains intincts are far better than Spikes. Weatherspoon has the most upside out of the three. The sky is the limited for him because of his athleticism. McClain & Spikes will be solid starters in the NFL but Spoon, in my opinion, will be special. Derrick Brooks special.[/quote:1ivw06nn]

                Too bad Brooks was a 4-3 OLB and we will never get a chance see "'Spoon" play that roll because we are stuck with the St LeBeau Memorial Defense
                "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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                • hawaiiansteel
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                  • May 2008
                  • 35649

                  #23
                  Re: Since we draft 18th, gimme 18 guys you'd be willing to draft

                  Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
                  Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
                  good one, actually made me think...


                  1) Eric Berry FS
                  2) Ndamukong Suh DT
                  3) Gerald McCoy DT
                  4) Joe Haden CB
                  5) Rolando McClain ILB
                  6) Russell Okung OT
                  7) Brian Bulaga OT
                  Anthony Davis OT
                  9) Dan Williams NT
                  10) Earl Thomas FS
                  11) Jared Odrick DE
                  12) Sean Weatherspoon LB
                  13) Bruce Campbell OT
                  14) Brandon Graham DE/OLB
                  15) Mike Iupati OG
                  16) Terrence Cody NT
                  17) Maurkice Pouncey C
                  1 Trent Williams OT
                  I see we have all the same guys in our top 18, just in a slightly different order. I guess great minds think alike. I briefly toyed with putting Berry first myself (absolutely love the guy), but Suh is amazing as well...couldn't go wrong either way. We agree that Trent Williams is the least desirable of the OT prospects (I think he'll be solid on the next level, but he may only be a RT on the next level...I think you need LT feet to be an elite prospect there).



                  Mike Mayock disagrees, but then what does he know compared to us?

                  Raiders | Could select an offensive tackle in first round of NFL Draft


                  Wed, 24 Feb 2010

                  Jerry McDonald, of ANG Newspapers, reports NFL Network draft analyst Mike Mayock said he believes the Oakland Raiders could look to select an offensive tackle with their first-round pick in the NFL Draft. "I think offensive tackle becomes a primary need and I think there are four of them worth taking in the first nine or 10 picks," Mayock said. "It wouldn't surprise me to see the Raiders wind up with (Rutgers OT) Anthony X. Davis, (Oklahoma OL) Trent Williams, (Iowa OT) Bryan Bulaga, and of course, (Oklahoma State OT) Russell Okung."

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                  • Oviedo
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                    • May 2008
                    • 23824

                    #24
                    Re: Since we draft 18th, gimme 18 guys you'd be willing to draft

                    Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
                    Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
                    Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
                    good one, actually made me think...


                    1) Eric Berry FS
                    2) Ndamukong Suh DT
                    3) Gerald McCoy DT
                    4) Joe Haden CB
                    5) Rolando McClain ILB
                    6) Russell Okung OT
                    7) Brian Bulaga OT
                    Anthony Davis OT
                    9) Dan Williams NT
                    10) Earl Thomas FS
                    11) Jared Odrick DE
                    12) Sean Weatherspoon LB
                    13) Bruce Campbell OT
                    14) Brandon Graham DE/OLB
                    15) Mike Iupati OG
                    16) Terrence Cody NT
                    17) Maurkice Pouncey C
                    1 Trent Williams OT
                    I see we have all the same guys in our top 18, just in a slightly different order. I guess great minds think alike. I briefly toyed with putting Berry first myself (absolutely love the guy), but Suh is amazing as well...couldn't go wrong either way. We agree that Trent Williams is the least desirable of the OT prospects (I think he'll be solid on the next level, but he may only be a RT on the next level...I think you need LT feet to be an elite prospect there).



                    Mike Mayock disagrees, but then what does he know compared to us?

                    Raiders | Could select an offensive tackle in first round of NFL Draft


                    Wed, 24 Feb 2010

                    Jerry McDonald, of ANG Newspapers, reports NFL Network draft analyst Mike Mayock said he believes the Oakland Raiders could look to select an offensive tackle with their first-round pick in the NFL Draft. "I think offensive tackle becomes a primary need and I think there are four of them worth taking in the first nine or 10 picks," Mayock said. "It wouldn't surprise me to see the Raiders wind up with (Rutgers OT) Anthony X. Davis, (Oklahoma OL) Trent Williams, (Iowa OT) Bryan Bulaga, and of course, (Oklahoma State OT) Russell Okung."
                    Actually it would not surprise me at all to see the Raiders go after Spiller. It is just the type of move Davis would make.
                    "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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                    • JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
                      Hall of Famer
                      • May 2008
                      • 3937

                      #25
                      Re: Since we draft 18th, gimme 18 guys you'd be willing to draft

                      [quote=Oviedo]
                      Originally posted by JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
                      Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
                      Originally posted by "JUST-PLAIN-NASTY":1x1xdkpc
                      (Rubbing crystal ball...Post combine.)


                      1. Russell Okung, OT, Oklahoma State
                      2. Eric Berry, S, Tennessee
                      3. Gerald McCoy, DT, Oklahoma
                      4. Ndamukong Suh, DT, Nebraska
                      5. Bryan Bulaga, OT, Iowa
                      6. Joe Haden, CB, Florida
                      7. Anthony Davis, OT, Rutgers
                      8. Trent Williams, OT, Oklahoma
                      9. Dan Williams, NT, Tennessee
                      10. Sean Weatherspoon, ILB, Missouri
                      11. Rolando McClain, ILB, Alabama (Yes, I like Weatherspoon better!)
                      12. CJ Spiller, RB, Clemson
                      13. Maurkice Pouncey, C, Florida
                      14. Bruce Campbell, OT, Maryland
                      15. Earl Thomas, FS/CB, Texas
                      16. Taylor Mays, S, USC
                      17. Jared Odrick, DE, Penn State
                      18. Brandon Graham, DE/OLB, Michigan
                      I like that you made the Weatherspoon over McClain statement. I don't necessarily agree with it myself, but a thread like this is good to unearth little opinion nuggets like that. Bold proclamation.
                      McClain really benefitted from having Cody in front of him. His long arms and instincts gets him around the ball at the college level. He is not a good blitzer. He gets stoned because he comes in too high. He is more of a wrap up tackler. He isn't good at changing direction and lumbers upright when he runs through traffic. He isn't good in space and will struggle in man coverage at the next level. He will be a two down LB. He will be one of those players that is ready for the field out of the gates because of instincts and experience. His upside is limited and in 2-3 years he could flatten out. I actually like Spikes better than McClain in coverage & blitzing. McClains intincts are far better than Spikes. Weatherspoon has the most upside out of the three. The sky is the limited for him because of his athleticism. McClain & Spikes will be solid starters in the NFL but Spoon, in my opinion, will be special. Derrick Brooks special.
                      Too bad Brooks was a 4-3 OLB and we will never get a chance see "'Spoon" play that roll because we are stuck with the St LeBeau Memorial Defense [/quote:1x1xdkpc]


                      That's a shock that you would be the guy who brought up that point!

                      "Derrick Brooks Special" is more about the range and the complete LB. 3 down LB that does everything. The range of a S but the run stopping of a LB. This kid in a 3-4 running clean to the ball will give OCs nightmares.

                      Just watch Alabama game highlights, Florida game highlights, and Mizz game highlights on youtube. Spoon is never out of a play and is very ballanced to stay on his feet. His athleticism keeps him in a play no matter how heavy the trash or players on the ground. McClain "lumbers" to the ball and I see OL getting on him and giving him problems in the NFL. He doesn't have the speed to recover coming off a block outside the tackles. Mcclain doesn't have good change of direction so he will struggle with cutback runners.
                      In this new NFL, that is the majority of the backs.

                      If he falls to the Steelers and the Steelers pick him...God, I hope I am wrong! But in all honesty, even before the combine, seeing some tape on both guys...I know who I like. The evolving league and what the Steelers ask of their LBs today...Spoon is a better fit and will be the better LB. Unless Mcclain was half ass'n it in those games and puts up some great cone times at the combine...My opinion won't change.

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                      • Oviedo
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                        • May 2008
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                        #26
                        Re: Since we draft 18th, gimme 18 guys you'd be willing to draft

                        [quote=JUST-PLAIN-NASTY][quote=Oviedo]
                        Originally posted by "JUST-PLAIN-NASTY":23cgobk4
                        Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
                        Originally posted by "JUST-PLAIN-NASTY":23cgobk4
                        (Rubbing crystal ball...Post combine.)


                        1. Russell Okung, OT, Oklahoma State
                        2. Eric Berry, S, Tennessee
                        3. Gerald McCoy, DT, Oklahoma
                        4. Ndamukong Suh, DT, Nebraska
                        5. Bryan Bulaga, OT, Iowa
                        6. Joe Haden, CB, Florida
                        7. Anthony Davis, OT, Rutgers
                        8. Trent Williams, OT, Oklahoma
                        9. Dan Williams, NT, Tennessee
                        10. Sean Weatherspoon, ILB, Missouri
                        11. Rolando McClain, ILB, Alabama (Yes, I like Weatherspoon better!)
                        12. CJ Spiller, RB, Clemson
                        13. Maurkice Pouncey, C, Florida
                        14. Bruce Campbell, OT, Maryland
                        15. Earl Thomas, FS/CB, Texas
                        16. Taylor Mays, S, USC
                        17. Jared Odrick, DE, Penn State
                        18. Brandon Graham, DE/OLB, Michigan
                        I like that you made the Weatherspoon over McClain statement. I don't necessarily agree with it myself, but a thread like this is good to unearth little opinion nuggets like that. Bold proclamation.
                        McClain really benefitted from having Cody in front of him. His long arms and instincts gets him around the ball at the college level. He is not a good blitzer. He gets stoned because he comes in too high. He is more of a wrap up tackler. He isn't good at changing direction and lumbers upright when he runs through traffic. He isn't good in space and will struggle in man coverage at the next level. He will be a two down LB. He will be one of those players that is ready for the field out of the gates because of instincts and experience. His upside is limited and in 2-3 years he could flatten out. I actually like Spikes better than McClain in coverage & blitzing. McClains intincts are far better than Spikes. Weatherspoon has the most upside out of the three. The sky is the limited for him because of his athleticism. McClain & Spikes will be solid starters in the NFL but Spoon, in my opinion, will be special. Derrick Brooks special.
                        Too bad Brooks was a 4-3 OLB and we will never get a chance see "'Spoon" play that roll because we are stuck with the St LeBeau Memorial Defense [/quote:23cgobk4]


                        That's a shock that you would be the guy who brought up that point!

                        "Derrick Brooks Special" is more about the range and the complete LB. 3 down LB that does everything. The range of a S but the run stopping of a LB. This kid in a 3-4 running clean to the ball will give OCs nightmares.

                        Just watch Alabama game highlights, Florida game highlights, and Mizz game highlights on youtube. Spoon is never out of a play and is very ballanced to stay on his feet. His athleticism keeps him in a play no matter how heavy the trash or players on the ground. McClain "lumbers" to the ball and I see OL getting on him and giving him problems in the NFL. He doesn't have the speed to recover coming off a block outside the tackles. Mcclain doesn't have good change of direction so he will struggle with cutback runners.
                        In this new NFL, that is the majority of the backs.

                        If he falls to the Steelers and the Steelers pick him...God, I hope I am wrong! But in all honesty, even before the combine, seeing some tape on both guys...I know who I like. The evolving league and what the Steelers ask of their LBs today...Spoon is a better fit and will be the better LB. Unless Mcclain was half bad word'n it in those games and puts up some great cone times at the combine...My opinion won't change.[/quote:23cgobk4]

                        Want to lay odds that 'Spoon get the "not stout enough against the run" label if we would have him play ILB for us and have the continued lamentation for the "great" Larry Foote.

                        Weatherspoon IMO does not fit ILB for us and I would rather see them grab Brandon Graham and move him to ILB. No question about "Stout" at that point.
                        "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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                        • JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
                          Hall of Famer
                          • May 2008
                          • 3937

                          #27
                          Re: Since we draft 18th, gimme 18 guys you'd be willing to draft

                          Originally posted by Oviedo
                          Want to lay odds that 'Spoon get the "not stout enough against the run" label if we would have him play ILB for us and have the continued lamentation for the "great" Larry Foote.

                          Weatherspoon IMO does not fit ILB for us and I would rather see them grab Brandon Graham and move him to ILB. No question about "Stout" at that point.
                          O...Like I said in another post to you...Moving Graham to ILB would be like moving Woodley to ILB. His specialty is getting to the QB. Spoon played off the LOS at Mizz. Graham played with his hand in the dirt and standing up at the LOS. The scouts told him inside in a 3-4 & outside weakside in a 4-3. I provided the interview on youtube and Mayock even talked about it. Farrior & Timmons aren't stout but SPoon is very stout. Did you see this guy? Did you watch the Senior Bowl? Watch some Mizz game highlights on youtube and tell me he isn't stout. He is a "sudden player". More sudden then the wrap up tackler McClain. He has explosive athleticism and it show up on tape. He covered McCluster at the Senior Bowl man-to-man out of the backfield.

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                          • RuthlessBurgher
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                            • May 2008
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                            #28
                            Re: Since we draft 18th, gimme 18 guys you'd be willing to draft

                            Originally posted by Oviedo
                            Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
                            Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
                            Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
                            good one, actually made me think...


                            1) Eric Berry FS
                            2) Ndamukong Suh DT
                            3) Gerald McCoy DT
                            4) Joe Haden CB
                            5) Rolando McClain ILB
                            6) Russell Okung OT
                            7) Brian Bulaga OT
                            Anthony Davis OT
                            9) Dan Williams NT
                            10) Earl Thomas FS
                            11) Jared Odrick DE
                            12) Sean Weatherspoon LB
                            13) Bruce Campbell OT
                            14) Brandon Graham DE/OLB
                            15) Mike Iupati OG
                            16) Terrence Cody NT
                            17) Maurkice Pouncey C
                            1 Trent Williams OT
                            I see we have all the same guys in our top 18, just in a slightly different order. I guess great minds think alike. I briefly toyed with putting Berry first myself (absolutely love the guy), but Suh is amazing as well...couldn't go wrong either way. We agree that Trent Williams is the least desirable of the OT prospects (I think he'll be solid on the next level, but he may only be a RT on the next level...I think you need LT feet to be an elite prospect there).



                            Mike Mayock disagrees, but then what does he know compared to us?

                            Raiders | Could select an offensive tackle in first round of NFL Draft


                            Wed, 24 Feb 2010

                            Jerry McDonald, of ANG Newspapers, reports NFL Network draft analyst Mike Mayock said he believes the Oakland Raiders could look to select an offensive tackle with their first-round pick in the NFL Draft. "I think offensive tackle becomes a primary need and I think there are four of them worth taking in the first nine or 10 picks," Mayock said. "It wouldn't surprise me to see the Raiders wind up with (Rutgers OT) Anthony X. Davis, (Oklahoma OL) Trent Williams, (Iowa OT) Bryan Bulaga, and of course, (Oklahoma State OT) Russell Okung."
                            Actually it would not surprise me at all to see the Raiders go after Spiller. It is just the type of move Davis would make.
                            C'mon...we all know Davis will be slobbering over Taylor Mays. He's got the speed, size, strength, and athletic ability that he cannot possibly resist. He's the Darrius Heyward-Bey of the defense. DHB looks great in workouts but can't catch, so watch the Raiders draft him in the top 10 as a WR! Mays looks great in workouts but can't cover anyone and has no ball skills, so watch the Raiders draft him in the top 10 for their secondary.
                            Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

                            Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                            We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                            We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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                            • hawaiiansteel
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                              • May 2008
                              • 35649

                              #29
                              Re: Since we draft 18th, gimme 18 guys you'd be willing to draft

                              here's mock (Bleacher Report) that has us drafting OT Bruce Campbell...


                              Round One/Pick 18—Best Case Scenario—Bruce Campbell/OT/Maryland


                              The Steelers’ offensive line play in 2009 was abysmal to say the least. While Ben Roethlisberger can be accused of holding on to the ball too long, he hasn’t exactly had the time he needs to pass from the pocket either.

                              In a best-case scenario, the Steelers are looking to address the offensive line with a big-time prospect, and Maryland’s Bruce Campbell would still be on the board when they are picking at No. 18.

                              Campbell is a physical specimen at the left tackle position. Standing at 6'7", he has the length and reach that NFL teams salivate over when it comes to left tackles.

                              If Campbell has scouts salivating over his height and length, then he has them drooling over the fact that he is abnormally fit for a man of his size and football position. Weighing in at only 310 pounds, the junior has the agility and quickness of a much smaller player. (He has been timed running a sub 4.9 in the 40).

                              Overall, the big left tackle’s pass-blocking skills are what set him apart from the rest of the field. Having Campbell protecting Roethlisberger’s blindside would be a welcome addition to the offensive line that gave up 50 sacks last season.
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                              • JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
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                                • May 2008
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                                Re: Since we draft 18th, gimme 18 guys you'd be willing to draft

                                Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
                                here's mock (Bleacher Report) that has us drafting OT Bruce Campbell...


                                Round One/Pick 18—Best Case Scenario—Bruce Campbell/OT/Maryland


                                The Steelers’ offensive line play in 2009 was abysmal to say the least. While Ben Roethlisberger can be accused of holding on to the ball too long, he hasn’t exactly had the time he needs to pass from the pocket either.

                                In a best-case scenario, the Steelers are looking to address the offensive line with a big-time prospect, and Maryland’s Bruce Campbell would still be on the board when they are picking at No. 18.

                                Campbell is a physical specimen at the left tackle position. Standing at 6'7", he has the length and reach that NFL teams salivate over when it comes to left tackles.

                                If Campbell has scouts salivating over his height and length, then he has them drooling over the fact that he is abnormally fit for a man of his size and football position. Weighing in at only 310 pounds, the junior has the agility and quickness of a much smaller player. (He has been timed running a sub 4.9 in the 40).

                                Overall, the big left tackle’s pass-blocking skills are what set him apart from the rest of the field. Having Campbell protecting Roethlisberger’s blindside would be a welcome addition to the offensive line that gave up 50 sacks last season.
                                Campbell very well could be Top 10 talent and build but his injury history pushes him down in the 1st. Some people say if he returned for his senior year and stayed healthy...He might be a Top 10 pick. He has questions on durability but not talent!

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