BA officially outta here!

[feltdizz]

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It's time for Mikey to get on the horn with Chan Gailey and Bobby April.

We've gotta remember we've still got a young coach and we should be surrounding him with the best minds in the biz.

And please Rooney's, provide some guidance to Mike. I didn't like some of his previous coaching hires.

Were they his hires or the FO's? My impression was that Tomlin wasn't given much leeway to start.

I think Tomlin had it right when he said he was hired for "cheap labor"

I doubt he had the final say on anything his first year.

[RuthlessBurgher]

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so.... are we saying the Ken Anderson retiring is still proof he is fired or did KDKA and a few others jump the gun?

If BA isn't fired now I swear the city will burn LOL!!! It kinda feels like a few reporters are trying to force the Steelers hand. It would be really janky if they misreported this.

Tomlin reported the Kenny Anderson retirement news himself at his press conference today.

The Bruce Arians speculation is 100% from Ken Laird at ESPN Radio 1250 at this point. Nothing official from the team in regard to any coach's job status except for Anderson.

[Mel Blount's G]

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Wow. Quite the thread going here that I had to catch up on.

So BA might be gone. It shouldn't come as too much of a surprise and I can't say that I necessarily disagree with taking another direction but somehow I feel kinda worried about this whole deal. The reason, as others have mentioned is simple......Ben.

Ben is a instinctual QB at his core , that fact is undeniable. It's also obvious that he has improved the mental part of his game such as reading defenses , pre-snap and going through his progressions. Are they on a Peyton,Brady,Brees level......NO. But none of those guys can touch Ben in his specialty , sandlot football. Now do I ever expect Ben to be on their level in the areas I mentioned ? Nope. Don't see it happening. Not because he's not capable but he just doesn't want to be that type of QB. You can say it's because he doesn't work as hard as those guys in the film room , who knows might even be true. You can say he's just not as smart as those guys , might be true as well. You can say he's just a stubborn , cocky , uber confident QB who'll toe the company line between doing his due diligence in the classroom and practice field but ultimately will always fall back on his talent and confidence that he can win HIS way.

That we KNOW to be true. So all that longwindedness being said , If the FO and coaching staff bring in someone that's going to rub Ben the wrong way and try and change him to much this late in his career , it's going to spell disaster. Some will say Ben needs more direction and coaching and should just shut up , count his cash and do what's best for the team. I'm sure Ben would argue , he's done what's best for the team , win 2 Lombardi's.

Everyone may not like it but there are a different set of rules for a player like Ben. Maybe that plays into the whole "some players on the team don't like Ben" theory and maybe it plays into some of the fans criticisms of him as well.

Whatever. I certainly don't care. I'm sure Ben doesn't either.

Well said.

Howz about Norv Turner as OC after he craps the bed in SD and is shown the door?

[RuthlessBurgher]

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Howz about Norv Turner as OC after he craps the bed in SD and is shown the door?

Here here!

Norv + H.C. = teh suck

Norv + O.C. = rulez

[Wolfhound45]

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I dont' care who the OC is for the Steelers Ben is not changing the way he plays the game. Maybe they'll hire Kevin Gilbride. :P

Pappy

And BUDDY RYAN! Hey, they could have ANOTHER sideline skirmish! Cool!

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[stlrz d]

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Still no official statement from the team.

Anyone think KA wanted to replace BA, found out he wouldn't be so he called it a day?

[Vindrow]

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Here's a link to an article about it:


[url="http://www.steelernation.com/forums/content.php/109-Report-Pittsburgh-Steelers-To-Fire-Bruce-Arians"]http://www.steelernation.com/forums/con ... uce-Arians[/url]

[Discipline of Steel]

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• Center Justin Hartwig said he hopes offensive coordinator Bruce Arians and offensive line coach Larry Zierlein return next season. "I think (being ranked) seventh offensively in the NFL isn't too bad," Hartwig said. The Steelers finished 7th in the NFL in total offense with 371.3 yards per game.

Picked out of a random article. BA has proven overall success. But his big problem is that our offense has no punch. Pass the ball on 3rd and short, no FB, CANT GRIND OUT THE WIN IN THE FOURTH QUARTER. People point to the greater stats we have this year; 4000 yrd QB, 1000 yd RB, 2 x 1000 yrd WR, 70 catch TE...its all hogwash. We lost to some very weak teams and didnt make the playoffs. Equivalent to Houston. I think casting the Steeler identity of intimidators to the wayside is the wrong move. Now lets go out and get us a real FB please. Its what the Steeler nation wants.

[NorthCoast]

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Both Cinci and Cleveland figured it out this year. A power running game can win you games. When our receiving TDs outnumber rushing TDs almost 3 to 1, I call it decidedly unbalanced.

Hope Ben doesn't 'pout' over this change....nothing worse than a disgruntled $100M quarterback.

Where's Mike Mularkey these days....I thought he had promise. Also didn't Buffalo just release their entire staff? ...maybe a castoff there?

[Sugar]

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I really don't care if we have a FB, a power running game, a thousand yard back or receivers.

I simply want the Offense to score at least 21 points a game and I want the Defense to allow no more than 17 points per game. Of course, I expect the Special Teams to allow 0 points per game.

Is that too hard?

[feltdizz]

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I really don't care if we have a FB, a power running game, a thousand yard back or receivers.

I simply want the Offense to score at least 21 points a game and I want the Defense to allow no more than 17 points per game. Of course, I expect the Special Teams to allow 0 points per game.

Is that too hard?

[BURGH86STEEL]

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Tomlin: 'Appropriate changes' to follow Steelers' playoff-less season

Pretty interesting article from NFL.COM

[url="http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d81586d39&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true"]http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d ... nfirm=true[/url]

[feltdizz]

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Blaming Arians for this year's version of the Steelers failures is like blaming a knife and fork for being obese.

This certainly means that Lebeau will be let go as well. If the offense is being blamed then the defense has to have someone fall on the sword as well.

Pappy

What was the offenses excuse for being middle of the road in points scored this season despite the glorious yardage totals? Were they missing 2 pro bowlers?

Missing Troy & A. The TD's we got this year made us so excited ST's and the D couldn't contain themselves or the other team?aron Smith is comparable to losing Ben & Heath or Hines for half the season.

we weren't losing by 14 in games this year... more times then not we have been up 14 points and blew leads late.

Even if we lost Ben and Hines we would still move the ball.. If a 3rd string QB can waltz into the endzone for a 4th quater lead against Baltimore in Baltimore.. It's obvious Arians isn't the fool some say he is. We would pound the run with the back up and limit the QB's passing.

I think a real concern is without Troy our secondary is butt. It would have been nice to see a DB make one play during our skid or for us to say Lebeau dialed up a great D in just one of those 4th quarter collapses. People respect Lebeau but the 4th quarter had no Lebeau magic against the worst offenses in football.

Lebeau couldn't even fill Gays weakness with any other player all season!

[Shawn]

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It's on PFT as well, but so far everything is referencing Laird, and nothing official from the team.

[url]http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/01/05/report-bruce-arians-will-be-fired-in-pittsburgh/[/url]

Report: Bruce Arians will be fired in Pittsburgh
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on January 5, 2010 2:47 PM ET
The makeover in Pittsburgh is reportedly underway.

Offensive coordinator Bruce Arians will be let go "in the near future," according to Ken Laird of 1250 ESPN in Pittsburgh.

The Steelers have not confirmed the move, and Mike Tomlin didn't mention the change at his end of his season press conference.

Arians was criticized for not building a consistent running attack in Pittsburgh, but the passing game was among the league's best. Somehow, we doubt Arians would have been criticized as much if the Pittsburgh defense didn't give up 101 more points in 2009 than 2008.

Steelers quarterback coach Ken Anderson retired earlier in the day.

Only thing I heard on Sirius is that Ken Anderson retired as well, nothing about Arians yet in the "mainstream".

it's on KDKA's home page.. it would be real janky to put that up if it's not true.

Ha ha ha! You said Janky. I thought that was a west coast term.

About Arians, so many threads have been written all year about how horrible BA was at calling plays. Then when he gets dumped there's people coming outta the wood works to defend him. I don't get it. He was fired for the same reasons we all hated him for and I can't wait to see the kind of offense we have next year.

Ben is an all star and can adjust to a few changes. Getting the running game back is big in my opinion.

I have never heard of janky...but I have to assume it's derivation is from jankum and that's literally some nasty ish.

Anyways, I'm very surprised and I have mixed feelings. This offense was good enough to win us another SB. Make no mistake our D beat us this year. With that said, I do not like BAs style of ball. Also, change could set us back initially. Who knows if we will be competitive next year now.

[Shawn]

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Blaming Arians for this year's version of the Steelers failures is like blaming a knife and fork for being obese.

This certainly means that Lebeau will be let go as well. If the offense is being blamed then the defense has to have someone fall on the sword as well.

Pappy

What was the offenses excuse for being middle of the road in points scored this season despite the glorious yardage totals? Were they missing 2 pro bowlers?

Missing Troy & A. The TD's we got this year made us so excited ST's and the D couldn't contain themselves or the other team?aron Smith is comparable to losing Ben & Heath or Hines for half the season.

we weren't losing by 14 in games this year... more times then not we have been up 14 points and blew leads late.

Even if we lost Ben and Hines we would still move the ball.. If a 3rd string QB can waltz into the endzone for a 4th quater lead against Baltimore in Baltimore.. It's obvious Arians isn't the fool some say he is. We would pound the run with the back up and limit the QB's passing.

I think a real concern is without Troy our secondary is butt. It would have been nice to see a DB make one play during our skid or for us to say Lebeau dialed up a great D in just one of those 4th quarter collapses. People respect Lebeau but the 4th quarter had no Lebeau magic against the worst offenses in football.

Lebeau couldn't even fill Gays weakness with any other player all season!

LeBeau is a terrific DC make no mistake. The loss of Troy exposed our very old and shallow D. This was a drafting issue.