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  • papillon
    Legend
    • Mar 2008
    • 11340

    #16
    Re: BA officially outta here!

    Originally posted by JTP53609
    I dont know, there were plenty of games where we were pretty well balanced, he called up some nice trick plays this year to keep teams on their heels, and if santonio throws a td in the miami game we all love the call instead we say it was stupid......i dont think he was that bad...
    Me either, but if he is fired I would love to see a fullback get reincarnated in the Steeler offense. I've accepted Bruce Arians style of offense, I don't like it, but he's made it work by and large for the past three years.

    I will not have a problem with his firing; I still believe age and conditioning played a bigger role int he debacle that was the 2009 season.

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    • feltdizz
      Legend
      • May 2008
      • 27532

      #17
      Re: BA officially outta here!

      Originally posted by JTP53609
      I dont know, there were plenty of games where we were pretty well balanced, he called up some nice trick plays this year to keep teams on their heels, and if santonio throws a td in the miami game we all love the call instead we say it was stupid......i dont think he was that bad...
      I would love to take the ball out of Ben's hands and get back to 25 to 30 passes and heavy runs... I would be very surprised if BA goes.

      It seems as though the media in Pittsburgh are very anti Arians..
      I wonder if this is why the locker room is said to be divided..

      much of the blame for Arians is him putting the game in Ben's hands...
      Steelers 27
      Rats 16

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      • rockonsteel
        Backup
        • Nov 2009
        • 215

        #18
        Re: BA officially outta here!

        Originally posted by JTP53609
        I dont know, there were plenty of games where we were pretty well balanced, he called up some nice trick plays this year to keep teams on their heels, and if santonio throws a td in the miami game we all love the call instead we say it was stupid......i dont think he was that bad...

        I strongly disagree. 60/40 pass/run ratio is the exact definition of NOT balanced.


        Rockon

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        • steelblood
          Hall of Famer
          • May 2008
          • 4166

          #19
          Re: BA officially outta here!

          Originally posted by JTP53609
          I dont know, there were plenty of games where we were pretty well balanced, he called up some nice trick plays this year to keep teams on their heels, and if santonio throws a td in the miami game we all love the call instead we say it was stupid......i dont think he was that bad...
          BA did some very good things. He was a pretty good game plan guy. He spread the field out and finally gave Ben a vote of confidence he felt he never got from Cowher and Whiz. He really brought the best out of Ben, Holmes, Wallace, and Heath.

          His red zone offense, in game adjustments, and running play design (our best running plays were the ones from coordinators past) were poor.
          Even if Bill Belichick was getting an atomic wedgie, his face would look exactly the same.

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          • ikestops85
            Hall of Famer
            • Jun 2008
            • 3724

            #20
            Re: BA officially outta here!

            In my book Arians was a very average coordinator who produced an average offense. He had his moments but they were few and far between. The offense seemed to be more dynamic when they went hurry up and Ben called the plays.

            Bring on Chan Gailey
            As many on this site think ... The Rooney's suck, Colbert sucks, Tomlin sucks, the coaches suck, and the players suck.

            but Go Steelers!!!

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            • SteelTorch
              Pro Bowler
              • Jun 2008
              • 1361

              #21
              Re: BA officially outta here!

              Originally posted by rockonsteel
              Originally posted by JTP53609
              I dont know, there were plenty of games where we were pretty well balanced, he called up some nice trick plays this year to keep teams on their heels, and if santonio throws a td in the miami game we all love the call instead we say it was stupid......i dont think he was that bad...

              I strongly disagree. 60/40 pass/run ratio is the exact definition of NOT balanced.


              Rockon
              Like it or not though, this IS a passing league these days. Cripes, it's so easy to score these days that time of possession almost doesn't matter. People need to get out of the mindset that running the ball more will solve our problems.

              The key is execution: knowing when to pass or run, and being able to do it when needed. We couldn't do it, and THAT was why I loathed BA.
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              • Steeler Mafia
                Starter
                • May 2008
                • 567

                #22
                Re: BA officially outta here!

                I will hold my celebration until I hear something official. I don't want to get my hopes up then find out it isn't true.
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                • toddjammin
                  Backup
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 198

                  #23
                  Re: BA officially outta here!

                  It's Offical, Arians out of here!!!!

                  Per KDKA.com

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                  numSlides of totalImages The Pittsburgh Steelers are apparently wasting no time in shaking things up after not making the playoffs, by reportedly firing offensive coordinator Bruce Arians Tuesday afternoon.

                  According to ESPN 1250's Ken Laird, the announcement was made shortly after 2 p.m. and after Mike Tomlin addressed the media during a weekly press conference.

                  The Steelers have made no official comment at this point,

                  Initially hired by Bill Cower to be the wide receiver coach and served three years in that position.

                  Arians was promoted to offensive coordinator in January of 2007 and just completed his third year with the team in that role.

                  Earlier in the day quarterbacks coach Ken Anderson retired from the NFL after 33 years as a player and a coach.

                  Stay With KDKA.com For More Details

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                  • feltdizz
                    Legend
                    • May 2008
                    • 27532

                    #24
                    Re: BA officially outta here!

                    Originally posted by steelblood
                    Originally posted by JTP53609
                    I dont know, there were plenty of games where we were pretty well balanced, he called up some nice trick plays this year to keep teams on their heels, and if santonio throws a td in the miami game we all love the call instead we say it was stupid......i dont think he was that bad...
                    BA did some very good things. He was a pretty good game plan guy. He spread the field out and finally gave Ben a vote of confidence he felt he never got from Cowher and Whiz. He allowed Ben to spread things out and really brought the best out of Holmes, Wallace, and Heath.

                    His red zone offense, in game adjustments, and running play design (our best running plays were the ones from coordinators past) were poor.
                    BA let Ben do whatever he wanted.. and while we love what Ben can do.. he also does some stupid things like taking red zone sacks on 1st down or 2nd down..

                    or out of the empty set that Ben has to love because we run it so much, Ben still holding the ball like he has protection and time..

                    Ben is a beast but he frustrated Whiz and Cowher to no end the the sandlot ball... but it works for Ben more times then not. However when it doesn't work we shrug it off as Ben being Ben or BA being an idiot..

                    with the official report now in... prepare for Ben to have a "who the hell knows" kinda year.
                    Steelers 27
                    Rats 16

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                    • RuthlessBurgher
                      Legend
                      • May 2008
                      • 33208

                      #25
                      Re: BA officially outta here!

                      It's on PFT as well, but so far everything is referencing Laird, and nothing official from the team.

                      [url]http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/01/05/report-bruce-arians-will-be-fired-in-pittsburgh/[/url]

                      Report: Bruce Arians will be fired in Pittsburgh
                      Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on January 5, 2010 2:47 PM ET
                      The makeover in Pittsburgh is reportedly underway.

                      Offensive coordinator Bruce Arians will be let go "in the near future," according to Ken Laird of 1250 ESPN in Pittsburgh.

                      The Steelers have not confirmed the move, and Mike Tomlin didn't mention the change at his end of his season press conference.

                      Arians was criticized for not building a consistent running attack in Pittsburgh, but the passing game was among the league's best. Somehow, we doubt Arians would have been criticized as much if the Pittsburgh defense didn't give up 101 more points in 2009 than 2008.

                      Steelers quarterback coach Ken Anderson retired earlier in the day.
                      Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

                      Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                      We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                      We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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                      • feltdizz
                        Legend
                        • May 2008
                        • 27532

                        #26
                        Re: BA officially outta here!

                        If KDKA reports it... has has to be true.
                        Steelers 27
                        Rats 16

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                        • Iron Shiek
                          Hall of Famer
                          • May 2008
                          • 3798

                          #27
                          Re: BA officially outta here!

                          Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
                          It's on PFT as well, but so far everything is referencing Laird, and nothing official from the team.

                          [url]http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/01/05/report-bruce-arians-will-be-fired-in-pittsburgh/[/url]

                          Report: Bruce Arians will be fired in Pittsburgh
                          Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on January 5, 2010 2:47 PM ET
                          The makeover in Pittsburgh is reportedly underway.

                          Offensive coordinator Bruce Arians will be let go "in the near future," according to Ken Laird of 1250 ESPN in Pittsburgh.

                          The Steelers have not confirmed the move, and Mike Tomlin didn't mention the change at his end of his season press conference.

                          Arians was criticized for not building a consistent running attack in Pittsburgh, but the passing game was among the league's best. Somehow, we doubt Arians would have been criticized as much if the Pittsburgh defense didn't give up 101 more points in 2009 than 2008.

                          Steelers quarterback coach Ken Anderson retired earlier in the day.
                          Only thing I heard on Sirius is that Ken Anderson retired as well, nothing about Arians yet in the "mainstream".
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                          • Mister Pittsburgh
                            Hall of Famer
                            • Jul 2008
                            • 3674

                            #28
                            Re: BA officially outta here!

                            Originally posted by SteelTorch
                            Originally posted by rockonsteel
                            Originally posted by JTP53609
                            I dont know, there were plenty of games where we were pretty well balanced, he called up some nice trick plays this year to keep teams on their heels, and if santonio throws a td in the miami game we all love the call instead we say it was stupid......i dont think he was that bad...

                            I strongly disagree. 60/40 pass/run ratio is the exact definition of NOT balanced.


                            Rockon
                            Like it or not though, this IS a passing league these days. Cripes, it's so easy to score these days that time of possession almost doesn't matter. People need to get out of the mindset that running the ball more will solve our problems.

                            The key is execution: knowing when to pass or run, and being able to do it when needed. We couldn't do it, and THAT was why I loathed BA.
                            I disagree. The two teams ahead of us in the AFCN won by running the football with some authority.
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                            • feltdizz
                              Legend
                              • May 2008
                              • 27532

                              #29
                              Re: BA officially outta here!

                              Originally posted by Iron Shiek
                              Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
                              It's on PFT as well, but so far everything is referencing Laird, and nothing official from the team.

                              [url]http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/01/05/report-bruce-arians-will-be-fired-in-pittsburgh/[/url]

                              Report: Bruce Arians will be fired in Pittsburgh
                              Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on January 5, 2010 2:47 PM ET
                              The makeover in Pittsburgh is reportedly underway.

                              Offensive coordinator Bruce Arians will be let go "in the near future," according to Ken Laird of 1250 ESPN in Pittsburgh.

                              The Steelers have not confirmed the move, and Mike Tomlin didn't mention the change at his end of his season press conference.

                              Arians was criticized for not building a consistent running attack in Pittsburgh, but the passing game was among the league's best. Somehow, we doubt Arians would have been criticized as much if the Pittsburgh defense didn't give up 101 more points in 2009 than 2008.

                              Steelers quarterback coach Ken Anderson retired earlier in the day.
                              Only thing I heard on Sirius is that Ken Anderson retired as well, nothing about Arians yet in the "mainstream".
                              it's on KDKA's home page.. it would be real janky to put that up if it's not true.
                              Steelers 27
                              Rats 16

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                              • papillon
                                Legend
                                • Mar 2008
                                • 11340

                                #30
                                Re: BA officially outta here!

                                Originally posted by feltdizz
                                Originally posted by steelblood
                                Originally posted by JTP53609
                                I dont know, there were plenty of games where we were pretty well balanced, he called up some nice trick plays this year to keep teams on their heels, and if santonio throws a td in the miami game we all love the call instead we say it was stupid......i dont think he was that bad...
                                BA did some very good things. He was a pretty good game plan guy. He spread the field out and finally gave Ben a vote of confidence he felt he never got from Cowher and Whiz. He allowed Ben to spread things out and really brought the best out of Holmes, Wallace, and Heath.

                                His red zone offense, in game adjustments, and running play design (our best running plays were the ones from coordinators past) were poor.
                                BA let Ben do whatever he wanted.. and while we love what Ben can do.. he also does some stupid things like taking red zone sacks on 1st down or 2nd down..

                                or out of the empty set that Ben has to love because we run it so much, Ben still holding the ball like he has protection and time..

                                Ben is a beast but he frustrated Whiz and Cowher to no end the the sandlot ball... but it works for Ben more times then not. However when it doesn't work we shrug it off as Ben being Ben or BA being an idiot..

                                with the official report now in... prepare for Ben to have a "who the hell knows" kinda year.
                                I dont' care who the OC is for the Steelers Ben is not changing the way he plays the game. Maybe they'll hire Kevin Gilbride. :P

                                Pappy
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                                The 2025 Pittsburgh Steeler draft

                                1.21 - Derrick Harmon, DT, Oregon - Nick Emmanwori, S, S. Carolina
                                3.83 - Kaleb Johnson, RB, Iowa - DJ Giddens, RB, Kans St
                                3.123 - Will Howard, QB, OSU
                                4.156 - JJ Pegues, DT, Ole Miss
                                5.185 - Clay Webb, OG, Jack St
                                7.229 - Tyrion Ingram-Dawkins, DT, Georgia

                                "Football is a physical game, well, it used to be anyways" - Mel Blount

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