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  • feltdizz
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    • May 2008
    • 27532

    #46
    Originally posted by BURGH86STEEL
    LMAO, KP did his thing and the Steelers wanted better competition to push KP. KP actually revealed to the media how he felt about losing his job to MR. KP folded. The last time the Steelers cut a 1st round pick in his second season was in the Cowher era.

    You realize that MR executed the same offense?

    I don't need to debate winning a playoff game. I will take the winning seasons and playoff births.

    I don't even need to debate the playoff wins scenario. Cowher helped this team to win plenty playoff games. Fans called for Cowher to be fired before the team won a championship. What happened? Cowher helped this team win a championship.

    I will say this again. I will take the winning seasons and playoff births as opposed to the losing seasons. Winning season vs a losing season. Which do you choose?

    I can go down a variety of roads. I will take the non losing, winning seasons, & playoff births until the Steelers can build a Championship winner.

    Pickett is an entitled cry baby. He didn't want to compete for the job.

    The Steelers don't believe the same way that you think. It would had been over for Cowher....if the fans ran the team.
    See how the bar has been lowered?

    Fans wanted Cowher fired for losing Championship games at home when favored.

    Now you are happy to not have a losing season?

    I’m a big Tomlin fan but I’ve grown tired of defending winning seasons while missing the playoffs or getting dog walked. People on a sports site said EYE was too harsh and other teams can’t even have winning seasons. Now we are compared to bad teams and should be happy?

    Smh..

    and no, Mason did not run the same offense KP had to run with Canada calling the plays. There is a reason Kenny and Ben both had a lot of 4th quarter wins with Canada.

    Canada was awful.
    Steelers 27
    Rats 16

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    • BURGH86STEEL
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      • May 2008
      • 6921

      #47
      Originally posted by WindyCitySteel
      There's been a lot of that going on lately.
      I understand that you are not a Steelers fan.
      KP was drafted in the 1st round by the Steelers. KP had the upper hand on Wilson. KP simply didn't want to compete. KP has very little chance to start in Philly unless Hurts is injured.

      KP quit on the Steelers. Can't coach'm, can't teach'm, don't want to play with e'm. The Steelers traded him. The unfortunate thing is that the Steelers couldn't even get a better quality draft pick in return for Pickett. The Bears probably feel the same way in regard to Fields.

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      • feltdizz
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        • May 2008
        • 27532

        #48
        Originally posted by WindyCitySteel
        There's been a lot of that going on lately.
        Hope we turn the corner with Russ but if more former players have success after leaving I think we will know that its time to Tomlin to retire and maybe our process as a whole is outdated and not working.
        Steelers 27
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        • feltdizz
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          • May 2008
          • 27532

          #49
          Originally posted by BURGH86STEEL
          I understand that you are not a Steelers fan.
          KP was drafted in the 1st round by the Steelers. KP had the upper hand on Wilson. KP simply didn't want to compete. KP has very little chance to start in Philly unless Hurts is injured.

          KP quit on the Steelers. Can't coach'm, can't teach'm, don't want to play with e'm. The Steelers traded him. The unfortunate thing is that the Steelers couldn't even get a better quality draft pick in return for Pickett. The Bears probably feel the same way in regard to Fields.
          WRONG. Kenny did not have the upper hand on Wilson.

          Tomlin told him Russ was ahead of him.

          Facts dude
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          • BURGH86STEEL
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            • May 2008
            • 6921

            #50
            Originally posted by feltdizz
            WRONG. Kenny did not have the upper hand on Wilson.

            Tomlin told him Russ was ahead of him.

            Facts dude
            Quote your source???? The FACT of the matter is KP quit on a better opportunity to start. 100% Fact dude. For you I will quote the years and dollar math (I am not you enemy).

            Hurts is the unquestioned starter for the Eagles at least until 2026 season
            (dead cap hit is 52 mill). Wilson is a one year rental at 1.2 mill for the Steelers.

            IMO this is debate nonsense. KP was traded because he wanted out. KP quit when MR started. He quit when faced with more experienced and more accomplished competition.
            Last edited by BURGH86STEEL; 03-21-2024, 06:35 PM.

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            • feltdizz
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              • May 2008
              • 27532

              #51
              Originally posted by BURGH86STEEL
              Quote your source???? The FACT of the matter is KP quit on a better opportunity to start. 100% Fact dude. For you I will quote the years and dollar math (I am not you enemy).

              Hurts is the unquestioned starter for the Eagles at least until 2026 season. Wilson is a one year rental at 1.2 mill for the Steelers.

              IMO this is debate nonsense. KP was traded because he wanted out.
              I know you are not my enemy and I agree Kenny wanted a trade after learning Wilson was in pole position.

              I also doubt this is Kenny’s last team. If a team want to trade for Kenny due to a QB injury he will get another chance to play just like Dobbs and countless other QB’s last year.

              Tom Pelissero



              How did this go sideways? Mike Tomlin had promised Kenny Pickett he?d get a chance to compete. Pickett learned about the Russell Wilson signing on social media Sunday night. When they spoke the next morning, Tomlin told Pickett that Wilson was in pole position and would get the first reps. So, Pickett asked for a trade. Now he?s an Eagle.


              Last edited by feltdizz; 03-21-2024, 08:22 PM.
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              • BURGH86STEEL
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                • May 2008
                • 6921

                #52
                Originally posted by feltdizz
                I know you are not my enemy and I agree Kenny wanted a trade after learning Wilson was in pole position.

                I also doubt this is Kenny?s last team. If a team want to trade for Kenny due to a QB injury he will get another chance to play just like Dobbs and countless other QB?s last year.

                Tom Pelissero



                How did this go sideways? Mike Tomlin had promised Kenny Pickett he?d get a chance to compete. Pickett learned about the Russell Wilson signing on social media Sunday night. When they spoke the next morning, Tomlin told Pickett that Wilson was in pole position and would get the first reps. So, Pickett asked for a trade. Now he?s an Eagle.

                I
                Pickett forced his way out of Pittsburgh. That fact can't be disputed.
                Last edited by BURGH86STEEL; 03-21-2024, 07:58 PM.

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                • feltdizz
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                  • May 2008
                  • 27532

                  #53
                  Originally posted by BURGH86STEEL
                  Pickett forced his way out of Pittsburgh. That fact can't be disputed.
                  asking for a trade isn’t really forcing your way out. We could’ve said no.

                  We’ve seen so much worse from players who “forced” their way out.

                  Feelings were mutual obviously.
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                  • T.Ferguson
                    Pro Bowler
                    • Sep 2021
                    • 2377

                    #54
                    Originally posted by BURGH86STEEL
                    Quote your source???? The FACT of the matter is KP quit on a better opportunity to start. 100% Fact dude. For you I will quote the years and dollar math (I am not you enemy).

                    Hurts is the unquestioned starter for the Eagles at least until 2026 season
                    (dead cap hit is 52 mill). Wilson is a one year rental at 1.2 mill for the Steelers.

                    IMO this is debate nonsense. KP was traded because he wanted out. KP quit when MR started. He quit when faced with more experienced and more accomplished competition.
                    He asked out because he wasn't going to start in Pittsburgh, it's that simple, he didn't quit when MR started, why is everyone just making stuff about this situation? To make yourselves feel better about how terribly the Steelers handled this situation?

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                    • NorthCoast
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                      • Sep 2008
                      • 26636

                      #55
                      Originally posted by T.Ferguson
                      He asked out because he wasn't going to start in Pittsburgh, it's that simple, he didn't quit when MR started, why is everyone just making stuff about this situation? To make yourselves feel better about how terribly the Steelers handled this situation?
                      Why are people so wound up about a backup QB?

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                      • WindyCitySteel
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                        • Nov 2011
                        • 15684

                        #56
                        Originally posted by T.Ferguson
                        He asked out because he wasn't going to start in Pittsburgh, it's that simple, he didn't quit when MR started, why is everyone just making stuff about this situation? To make yourselves feel better about how terribly the Steelers handled this situation?
                        Truth is the first casualty of war for the Defenders of The Organization.

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                        • Joel Buchsbaum
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                          • Jan 2021
                          • 7744

                          #57
                          Originally posted by Shawn
                          Feels like the Twilight Zone. When did you and I start agreeing on Steeler football? I agree. KP was a one season wondering after struggling most of his college career. Whoever scouted him for the Steelers needs to be fired. Yeah he will make a capable back up. But first round build your franchise around him? Nah. You can find KPs in every draft in rounds 3-5.
                          I agree. And that goes for Tomlin too! I did not like the pick then. We sold Pickett's stock very low. He is Philly's problem now.
                          Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game in seven years and counting. The earliest will be eight years. I guess that in Art Rooney's II, opinion is worth a 3 year extension.

                          Our 2024 draft looks to be grade A. Our 2023 draft is an A. The roster is talented, but Mike Tomlin is still the head coach.

                          *** Mike Tomlin is the best coach since the AFL- NFL merger that has not won a playoff game in 8 seasons or more. It's either him or Lewis. ***

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                          • feltdizz
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                            • May 2008
                            • 27532

                            #58
                            Originally posted by WindyCitySteel
                            Truth is the first casualty of war for the Defenders of The Organization.
                            I think fans believe what they want to believe. Chuks was benched for criticizing Tomlin. Kenny refused to suit up as the emergency. DJ punched Mitch.

                            Just depends where you stand.
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                            • Eich
                              Legend
                              • Jul 2010
                              • 7044

                              #59
                              Originally posted by feltdizz
                              I think fans believe what they want to believe. Chuks was benched for criticizing Tomlin. Kenny refused to suit up as the emergency. DJ punched Mitch.

                              Just depends where you stand.
                              So, Truth is in the eye of the beholder? LOL. Probably true!

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                              • Northern_Blitz
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                                • Dec 2008
                                • 24373

                                #60
                                Originally posted by Eich
                                So, Truth is in the eye of the beholder? LOL. Probably true!
                                As always.

                                Most of us will use the partial information we have to support whatever our previous position was.

                                Kenny throws for 278 yards in a game without Canada, so it's proof that he's actually good.

                                We only score 16 points, so it's proof that Kenny is part of the problem too.

                                Kenny completes 70% of his passes in the half he plays the next week, so it's Canada.

                                Kenny has 70 yards and no TDs in the half he plays the next week. Plus he gets hurt running in the redzone and doesn't realize that there's a super easy TD throw to be made. Kenny is a big part of the problem.

                                Personally, I'm usually a believe in "both / and" over "either / or". I think Canada was a bad OC. I think Kenny was a below average starter...maybe not even a top 32 QB last year.

                                I also think Tomlin isn't a good coach for the offense and we need a good coordinator (and a good QB) to have a good offense (just like with Cowher).

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