Mason and the mythical rise of his career

[Northern_Blitz]

Good questions. My answers.

1 . Yes I believe the Steelers are looking at Mason for the staring job in 2024

2. Yes, but if we offer a 2 year deal with a third year option ( 40 million for two years ) this should be enough to keep him. Mason is likely to stay as no other offense will feature as good as skill players as he has on the Steelers. Unless an insane offer of 30M+ a year comes his way, we should be able to keep him. I doubt 8 million a year will be his best offer!

3. Yes, he started 4 games vs. a 9-8, 9-8, 13-4 and 11-6 teams. The Quality of competition was good, better than what others have had in the past two years and 3 of 4 games where on the road. His QBR, total yards thrown, and scoring with the offense was very good. He didn't play an MVP level, but his value to the team should not be understated.

4. I prefer to look at it this. How much better will Mason be when he has OC and has a full camp as the QB1.

$20M / year for Mason is a huge overpayment IMO. Felt's right that a GM should probably get fired for that contract.

He made $1M this season. Guys don't get raises that big in the NFL.

I think he gets Mitch's deal (when he signed from Buffalo) as a ceiling. Probably less (at least adjusting for cap inflation).

[NorthCoast]

$20M / year for Mason is a huge overpayment IMO. Felt's right that a GM should probably get fired for that contract.

He made $1M this season. Guys don't get raises that big in the NFL.

I think he gets Mitch's deal (when he signed from Buffalo) as a ceiling. Probably less (at least adjusting for cap inflation).

I wouldn't pay Rudolph what MT got because I think the Steelers overpaid for MT. MR in the $5-8M range would be value.

[SteelerOfDeVille]

Oh I think we know Minschew's ceiling. We are not sure of Mason. Straight up I'm going with Mason.

Cousins is too much money. I have Mason above Mariota. The only one on that list who will be considered might be Tannehill. I wonder what he would cost? 15M$ per.

I am on record saying i prefer Tannehill over Mason. There are too many benefits for having a guy that already knows the system and did well in it.

i go into 2024 with Kenny, Tannehill and a rookie 4th rounder

[Joel Buchsbaum]

I am on record saying i prefer Tannehill over Mason. There are too many benefits for having a guy that already knows the system and did well in it.

i go into 2024 with Kenny, Tannehill and a rookie 4th rounder

I am on record saying Tannehill will 36 when the season starts, and was 3-5 as the starter. He threw 4 td's, 7 int's. All of which are correct statements. I think Rudolph in 2024 is better than him.

[NorthCoast]

I am on record saying i prefer Tannehill over Mason. There are too many benefits for having a guy that already knows the system and did well in it.

i go into 2024 with Kenny, Tannehill and a rookie 4th rounder

Great, another QB that has failed to complete a full season in the last few years. I guess KP+RT the Steelers can squeak out 17 games before they need to pull in QB#3 in the post season . This team needs to get younger, hungrier with both coaching and players.

[SteelerOfDeVille]

I am on record saying Tannehill will 36 when the season starts, and was 3-5 as the starter. He threw 4 td's, 7 int's. All of which are correct statements. I think Rudolph in 2024 is better than him.

Understood on his age. These days 36 is not quite old for many QBs. I would also take Russell Wilson before Mason.

If they are going to commit to Pickett, having a veteran who has been there could be beneficial

I am less concerned about Tannehill record. We all saw this past season the difference an OC can make.

What was his last season under smith like?

[feltdizz]

I like Tannehill simply because he beat the Jags which helped us make the playoffs.

He should be cheap and I would hope he can help KP in this offense instead of having Mitch who is complete trash and probably did nothing to help KP in the QB room.

[feltdizz]

Great, another QB that has failed to complete a full season in the last few years. I guess KP+RT the Steelers can squeak out 17 games before they need to pull in QB#3 in the post season . This team needs to get younger, hungrier with both coaching and players.

Tannehill would be our Charlie Batch as a backup QB.

[Joel Buchsbaum]

Understood on his age. These days 36 is not quite old for many QBs. I would also take Russell Wilson before Mason.

If they are going to commit to Pickett, having a veteran who has been there could be beneficial

I am less concerned about Tannehill record. We all saw this past season the difference an OC can make.

What was his last season under smith like?

Smith is signed for a fair deal on the salary cap. He is not a franchise QB, but if better than say half if the NFL staring QB's. I say Rudy is the same. We sign him for 20-25 million a years and use the draft and free agency to address team weaknesses at OL and 3 down LB. CB? That is for a good free agent and one that I am willing to pay for in the 20-25 million range. I will say who I would cut, who I would retain and who I would sign from another team after the senior bowl in another thread of mine.

I hope that Khan an Weidl are up to the task ( I am very impressed with their 2023 draft ( A+ ), and there free agency / Pick ups in 2023 ( which is a solid B + )

Now of Art Smith as our new OC is average to above average we have the making is a very good team. We just need a primary head coach!

[feltdizz]

Geno Smith was originally signed to Seattle making about $1.5M per year. His first year as the full time starter in 2022 he earned $7Mill.

He threw 30 TD’s and led them to a 9-8 record in 2022 and this is why he was rewarded with a new contract.

No one is paying a QB $25 mill per year unless he is already on the team and whoos the money men with a great showing.

This is Jimmy G got paid. He was traded to SF for a 2nd rounder because he had the Patriots hype on him. He won the last 5 games of the season and SF gambled on him..

No one is giving Mason $25 Mill for winning the last 3 games for the Steelers. His best bet is getting $7 mill somewhere, holding off the young rookie and balling out. That would get in paid in 2025 or 2026 depending on how well he played.

[Oviedo]

$20M / year for Mason is a huge overpayment IMO. Felt's right that a GM should probably get fired for that contract.

He made $1M this season. Guys don't get raises that big in the NFL.

I think he gets Mitch's deal (when he signed from Buffalo) as a ceiling. Probably less (at least adjusting for cap inflation).

If you offer Mason $8-10M per year you'd be the high bidder

[Oviedo]

I am on record saying Tannehill will 36 when the season starts, and was 3-5 as the starter. He threw 4 td's, 7 int's. All of which are correct statements. I think Rudolph in 2024 is better than him.

I agree with you on this

[SteelerOfDeVille]

Tannehill would be our Charlie Batch as a backup QB.

somebody sees the sense behind this...

Not saying it *WILL* happen. But, it wouldn't hurt my feelings one bit

[SteelerOfDeVille]

Smith is signed for a fair deal on the salary cap. He is not a franchise QB, but if better than say half if the NFL staring QB's. I say Rudy is the same. We sign him for 20-25 million a years and use the draft and free agency to address team weaknesses at OL and 3 down LB. CB? That is for a good free agent and one that I am willing to pay for in the 20-25 million range. I will say who I would cut, who I would retain and who I would sign from another team after the senior bowl in another thread of mine.

I hope that Khan an Weidl are up to the task ( I am very impressed with their 2023 draft ( A+ ), and there free agency / Pick ups in 2023 ( which is a solid B + )

Now of Art Smith as our new OC is average to above average we have the making is a very good team. We just need a primary head coach!

Dude, there are times where i can't even respond to your posts because of stuff like this (above). It's so far off base, that I don't even know how to respond.

If Mason gets $20-25 million per year, everyone should be fired.

From 2015-2019, Big Ben's average salary was $21-22million. (It jumped at the end when they tried to figure how to land gracefully with his contracts/end of career).

THIS team is NOT paying THAT kind of money to THAT player.

[Eich]

THIS team is NOT paying THAT kind of money to THAT player.

NO team is paying THAT kind of money to Mason Rudolph now. He's only going to make that if he plays a season and takes a team deep into the playoffs.