Tomlin Declares that Pickett ...

[Northern_Blitz]

Maybe, but we had a few games where we were up 10 or more points and let them back in it..

of course the offense was blamed even when the D was giving up some ridiculous 3rd downs or extending drives for teams with penalties.

Probably because the O averaged something like 17-18 ppg. It's really hard to outscore teams (the goal of football) when you are among the worst teams in the league at scoring points.

IIRC, PPG was similar for Kenny and Mitch (but Mitch helped the other team score more). Then it was appreciably higher for Mason. Who had more 30 points games in 4 starts this year than Kenny has has in his career.

[Captain Lemming]

No.

But the problem with Kenny is that we don't score points with him under center.

The D isn't going to keep teams under 20 every week (although we were very good at it before losing most of the middle of the D).

I just don't have much confidence that we have any shot with Kenny under center against a team if they get 24 points or more.

As always, I hope to be wrong about Kenny (Mason too, because I don't think he's average to avbpce average)

How bout we remember this when a QB throws Kenny’s seasons worth of TDs in ONE GAME (5) and we wanna blame him for a loss because he threw a pick and had a fumble.

[Northern_Blitz]

How bout we remember this when a QB throws Kenny’s seasons worth of TDs in ONE GAME (5) and we wanna blame him for a loss because he threw a pick and had a fumble.

Yep.

I think the expectations for Ben and Kenny are different.

Ben and the offense needed to have a fast start to take away their running game and help a bad defense.

But they played very poorly early. And scored points for the other guys.

Similar to the CLE game, but not as bad.

I hope we get to the point where we have a QB that can do what Ben did. Even if Ben's high risk high reward play style hurt us at times too.

[Joel Buchsbaum]

... will be QB1 heading into next season. Says there will be some competition before the next campaign.

Far be it form me to pick the starter but at this point in time Tomlin can say he has not made up his mind on QB1. Now that will be honest.

[NorthCoast]

How bout we remember this when a QB throws Kenny’s seasons worth of TDs in ONE GAME (5) and we wanna blame him for a loss because he threw a pick and had a fumble.

I agree. While people applaud KP's low interceptions, when you combine it with the low TDs it's a sign that maybe he isn't taking enough risks to make the big plays. Good QBs overcome the INTs during the course of a game.

[WindyCitySteel]

I agree. While people applaud KP's low interceptions, when you combine it with the low TDs it's a sign that maybe he isn't taking enough risks to make the big plays. Good QBs overcome the INTs during the course of a game.

The fact that Tomlin didn't waste time making him #1 again after the season after a month of tepid praise for Rudolph should tell you all you need to know about which style Tomlin prefers.

[Northern_Blitz]

The fact that Tomlin didn't waste time making him #1 again after the season after a month of tepid praise for Rudolph should tell you all you need to know about which style Tomlin prefers.

Worth remembering that he was also "QB1" while Mason was starting games?

[feltdizz]

How bout we remember this when a QB throws Kenny’s seasons worth of TDs in ONE GAME (5) and we wanna blame him for a loss because he threw a pick and had a fumble.

Have to throw some of them when the game is close, not just when its a 14 point game.

and no one cares about garbage TD’s when the game has been decided already

[Mr.wizard]

Far be it form me to pick the starter but at this point in time Tomlin can say he has not made up his mind on QB1. Now that will be honest.

Would it be honest? Or just what you want to hear?

[Buzz]

Would it be honest? Or just what you want to hear?

I think he likely HAS made up his mind. Pickett is his guy, just like Canada was his guy, and he's likely gonna stick with Pickett unless and until the heat gets turned up too hot. What might it take for that to happen? I don't know. Maybe his first sub .500 season? Maybe the media turns on him?

He grudgingly went to Mason and stayed w Mason through the playoffs, but it's fairly obvious that wasn't really how he'd like to have seen it play out.

[BURGH86STEEL]

I think he likely HAS made up his mind. Pickett is his guy, just like Canada was his guy, and he's likely gonna stick with Pickett unless and until the heat gets turned up too hot. What might it take for that to happen? I don't know. Maybe his first sub .500 season? Maybe the media turns on him?

He grudgingly went to Mason and stayed w Mason through the playoffs, but it's fairly obvious that wasn't really how he'd like to have seen it play out.

Canada was fired and Pickett wasn't handed the job post injury.

Pickett will be given another opportunity because he is a young QB. Similar to the opportunity that Kordell had with Cowher.

"Grudgingly?" This is your own idea. He stayed with the hot hand at QB which was MR.

How would you had like to see it play out? For me it would be no question that KP is the future at QB. The Steelers are in no mans land when it comes to the QB position. They have a young QB who they are attempting to develop while winning as many games as possible. They have Trubisky who was supposed to be the bridge but he is stealing money. They have MR who will probably get an offer as a FA to become a starter. This is the reality.

[feltdizz]

I think he likely HAS made up his mind. Pickett is his guy, just like Canada was his guy, and he's likely gonna stick with Pickett unless and until the heat gets turned up too hot. What might it take for that to happen? I don't know. Maybe his first sub .500 season? Maybe the media turns on him?

He grudgingly went to Mason and stayed w Mason through the playoffs, but it's fairly obvious that wasn't really how he'd like to have seen it play out.

Not sure why this is such a big deal.

[BURGH86STEEL]

Not sure why this is such a big deal.

Why is it a big deal? Because of Marino, Ben, CJ Stroud, Mahommes, LJ, or any other 2nd year QB that played better than KP.

The 3rd year is key for KP. KP will be with the Steelers in the 4th year but in what capacity (backup, starter, 3rd string)?

[Captain Lemming]

Have to throw some of them when the game is close, not just when its a 14 point game.

and no one cares about garbage TD?s when the game has been decided already

You say garbage TOUCHDOWNS in the plural. There was ONE late touchdown.

The reason it was GARBAGE is because Tomlins defense allowed 17 NON-turnover assisted points IN THE 4th quarter ALONE by a BACKUP QB.

You judge QBs play on winning and losing with ZERO context. Perspective? We allowed 17 in the 4th quarter against the Jags. Kenny takes A WHOLE GAME score 16 points in the best game of his career.

No pick Kenny has NEVER ONCE played as well as Ben did versus the Jags. NOT CLOSE.

[Captain Lemming]

Not sure why this is such a big deal.

Of course not, you share his pov you Pitt homer.