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  • whatever
    Legend
    • Sep 2019
    • 5795

    Tomlin vote of confidence for future reference.

    Go?
    Stay?

    I say GO.
    How is it possible to have the best owner, best front office, best gm, best HC, good/great drafts every year and good FA acquisitions every year, but only have 3 playoff wins in 14 years?
  • Northern_Blitz
    Legend
    • Dec 2008
    • 24382

    #2
    I wouldn't fire him because it's bad asset management and his contract rights likely have value.

    But I'd examine options to trade. And I'd do the deal if I thought it would allow me to get a guy I thought was going to be a legit franchise QB.

    Having someone that has a shot at being the next SB winning QB in Black and Gold is way more important than having an above average coach. We took a shot with KP and Canada. And that didn't work.

    If there's no good path to picking one of the top 2ish QBs, then run Pickett back with a new OC and the same HC.

    But it only matters what Rooney thinks.

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    • whatever
      Legend
      • Sep 2019
      • 5795

      #3
      Originally posted by Northern_Blitz
      I wouldn't fire him because it's bad asset management and his contract rights likely have value.

      But I'd examine options to trade. And I'd do the deal if I thought it would allow me to get a guy I thought was going to be a legit franchise QB.

      Having someone that has a shot at being the next SB winning QB in Black and Gold is way more important than having an above average coach. We took a shot with KP and Canada. And that didn't work.

      If there's no good path to picking one of the top 2ish QBs, then run Pickett back with a new OC and the same HC.

      But it only matters what Rooney thinks.
      I’ll put you down for ‘I don’t know’
      How is it possible to have the best owner, best front office, best gm, best HC, good/great drafts every year and good FA acquisitions every year, but only have 3 playoff wins in 14 years?

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      • T.Ferguson
        Pro Bowler
        • Sep 2021
        • 2378

        #4
        Go, go go. If possible go back in time and go again.

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        • Buzz
          Legend
          • Dec 2017
          • 8409

          #5
          the only vote that matters is Rooney's
          I don't think you'll see him force Tomlin to go

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          • Djfan
            Legend
            • May 2008
            • 5184

            #6
            Go. 12 years late, but go.
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            • Northern_Blitz
              Legend
              • Dec 2008
              • 24382

              #7
              Originally posted by whatever
              I’ll put you down for ‘I don’t know’
              Sure.

              That's the real answer for all of us.

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              • Sword
                Pro Bowler
                • Sep 2011
                • 2052

                #8
                go go go and don’t let the door hit you on the way out….

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                • whatever
                  Legend
                  • Sep 2019
                  • 5795

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Buzz
                  the only vote that matters is Rooney's
                  I don't think you'll see him force Tomlin to go
                  I understand that Rooney will make the decision.
                  I want to know what individuals on here would like to see happen.
                  How is it possible to have the best owner, best front office, best gm, best HC, good/great drafts every year and good FA acquisitions every year, but only have 3 playoff wins in 14 years?

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                  • whatever
                    Legend
                    • Sep 2019
                    • 5795

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Northern_Blitz
                    Sure.

                    That's the real answer for all of us.
                    No it isn’t.
                    It’s a real simple question.
                    How is it possible to have the best owner, best front office, best gm, best HC, good/great drafts every year and good FA acquisitions every year, but only have 3 playoff wins in 14 years?

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                    • pfelix73
                      Hall of Famer
                      • Aug 2008
                      • 3463

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Northern_Blitz
                      I wouldn't fire him because it's bad asset management and his contract rights likely have value.

                      But I'd examine options to trade. And I'd do the deal if I thought it would allow me to get a guy I thought was going to be a legit franchise QB.

                      Having someone that has a shot at being the next SB winning QB in Black and Gold is way more important than having an above average coach. We took a shot with KP and Canada. And that didn't work.

                      If there's no good path to picking one of the top 2ish QBs, then run Pickett back with a new OC and the same HC.

                      But it only matters what Rooney thinks.
                      There is NO way that drafting another QB is an option. Why take another chance on a QB. I would bring in a FA to compete with Kenny.

                      I do agree about the possibility of a trade for Tomlin, but I would be surprised if he isn't back next year.
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                      • Rocky Mtn
                        Backup
                        • Jun 2022
                        • 492

                        #12
                        ....Go....

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                        • flippy
                          Legend
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 17088

                          #13
                          My gut says go, but I?ve always struggled knowing for certain from the outside who deserves credit and who deserves blame/accountability.

                          Most frustrating is Tomlin has never hired quality coaches and built a viable coaching tree. To me that is the biggest signal Tomlin has always been a subpar coach.

                          Then on the extreme flip side, we finally get rid of Colbert who I have never been really certain about and we have one of our best drafts with Brod, JPJ, Benton, Herbig and a seemingly decent off season building on the quality of the roster. Some didn?t work out, but no one bats 100 in the draft and FA, but I do sense the roster has improved and is trending in the right direction.

                          These are the extreme ends of the spectrum for Tomlin and I think he does some things well and other things horrible.

                          So the question almost comes back to him and what is he willing to do to fix his short comings and change to make the team better. And is he willing and capable of these things?

                          He still seems like a football junkie which is good. But he also seems like he needs some direction.

                          The east answer is let?s move on and move forward. The harder answer is let?s work with him to help him fix and overcome the things he is awful at doing.
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                          • whatever
                            Legend
                            • Sep 2019
                            • 5795

                            #14
                            Originally posted by flippy
                            My gut says go, but I?ve always struggled knowing for certain from the outside who deserves credit and who deserves blame/accountability.

                            Most frustrating is Tomlin has never hired quality coaches and built a viable coaching tree. To me that is the biggest signal Tomlin has always been a subpar coach.

                            Then on the extreme flip side, we finally get rid of Colbert who I have never been really certain about and we have one of our best drafts with Brod, JPJ, Benton, Herbig and a seemingly decent off season building on the quality of the roster. Some didn?t work out, but no one bats 100 in the draft and FA, but I do sense the roster has improved and is trending in the right direction.

                            These are the extreme ends of the spectrum for Tomlin and I think he does some things well and other things horrible.

                            So the question almost comes back to him and what is he willing to do to fix his short comings and change to make the team better. And is he willing and capable of these things?

                            He still seems like a football junkie which is good. But he also seems like he needs some direction.

                            The east answer is let?s move on and move forward. The harder answer is let?s work with him to help him fix and overcome the things he is awful at doing.
                            I don’t recall you criticizing our drafts while Colbert was here.
                            How is it possible to have the best owner, best front office, best gm, best HC, good/great drafts every year and good FA acquisitions every year, but only have 3 playoff wins in 14 years?

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                            • WindyCitySteel
                              Legend
                              • Nov 2011
                              • 15684

                              #15
                              Go, preferably by trade to Washington for a couple first round draft picks. Would be a good move for all parties involved.

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