Pickett has just one TD pass in his last six games

[Chucktownsteeler]

This is the kind of attitude that has us hanging onto WRs who sulk when they don't get the ball, and when they do they either drop it or run backwards.

Hey, we're winning with DJ! Don't change anything!

I have been on the record more than once here about needing a solid influx of new WRs. I have never been a fan of DJ, look it up.

But, what counts more, DJ not getting the TD in the end-zone or the Steelers getting the "W"?

[Joel Buchsbaum]

It?s not about ? style??

It?s about capabilities. To really compete, at some point our QB has to be able to throw TD passes. This is a passing league and anyone who actually thinks you can ? game manage ? your way to a championship in today?s NFL is not being realistic. Pickett has been terrible at that but, I?m giving him a clean slate and looking forward to seeing further improvement against the cardinals.

Northcoast was exactly right when he said if Pickett can?t throw a TD pass against the cardinals, then that isn?t a good sign going forward. But I think
He does throw one or two against the cardinals.

+1. Like I said he's due. But I have been wrong before.

[feltdizz]

The bottom line is the wins. At the end of the year it's win-losses. There are no style points.

How many TD passes did Big Ben throw in the 2008 season? That's right you would have to look it up. The only one that counts is the last one.

In both SB winning years Ben threw 17 TDs.

2005 when we needed to win out Ben's stats:

173 yards 1 TD
149 yards 0TD
248 yards 1 TD
132 yards 0 TD 2 INT

and remember we got "lucky" because Carson Palmer got hurt...lol

[feltdizz]

You are correct, this is AFC North football, style points don't count. The only thing that counts is the "W".

We have seen DJ drop a TD and Pickens step out on a TD.

If next game Muth drops a TD and Najee and Warren run for 3 TD's this means Kenny isn't our guy?

Even if he is 70% passing, throws for 275 and doesn't throw an INT?

[feltdizz]

This is the kind of attitude that has us hanging onto WRs who sulk when they don't get the ball, and when they do they either drop it or run backwards.

Hey, we're winning with DJ! Don't change anything!

hanging onto? We aren't going to release him this year but I would not be surprised if Khan tries to move DJ to get something in return in 2024.

[Joel Buchsbaum]

I have been on the record more than once here about needing a solid influx of new WRs. I have never been a fan of DJ, look it up.

But, what counts more, DJ not getting the TD in the end-zone or the Steelers getting the "W"?

I too am not a DJ fan. Dude is a wimp as a run blocker, has an attitude and only is good on short routes. I was on record by saying we should let him test free agency and the Steelers overpaid for his services.

BTW you should have a safety in your mock draft. We have more draft picks thanks to Khan. Time to update your signature.

[NorthCoast]

I don't think DJ is overpaid for what he was to the offense at the time of contract redo. But today he's averaging about 55 yds/gm which is close to what Addison (some of yinz were a fan) and Kupp are doing. Kupp's cap hit is a whisper under DJ's so it's not like the pay/performance is out of whack. (btw, Kupp's cap hit balloons to ~$30M next year... ouch!).

[Chucktownsteeler]

I don't think DJ is overpaid for what he was to the offense at the time of contract redo. But today he's averaging about 55 yds/gm which is close to what Addison (some of yinz were a fan) and Kupp are doing. Kupp's cap hit is a whisper under DJ's so it's not like the pay/performance is out of whack. (btw, Kupp's cap hit balloons to ~$30M next year... ouch!).

Addison and DJ should never be mentioned in the same sentance. Addison is a beast and still a rookie. It's like comparing a Rolls Royce to a Vega.

[Chucktownsteeler]

Current Jordan Addison (rookie stats): (completions, yards, TDs)

54 686 7

Diontae Johnson

30 385 1

I don't see where they are close at all.

[feltdizz]

I don't think DJ is overpaid for what he was to the offense at the time of contract redo. But today he's averaging about 55 yds/gm which is close to what Addison (some of yinz were a fan) and Kupp are doing. Kupp's cap hit is a whisper under DJ's so it's not like the pay/performance is out of whack. (btw, Kupp's cap hit balloons to ~$30M next year... ouch!).

Addison has 7 TD's this year and is on a rookie salary. It's a prime example of why we should be in the market for another rookie WR to replace DJ next year.

Kupp has only played in 7 games this year due to coming back from injury but yes, if he doesn't return to form next year it's a terrible contract. Stafford is no spring chicken either, if he retires or keeps fading who is going to throw that ball to Kupp?

[feltdizz]

Current Jordan Addison (rookie stats): (completions, yards, TDs)

54 686 7

Diontae Johnson

30 385 1

I don't see where they are close at all.

NC provided statistical evidence on why should move on from DJ and why it was a bad contract.

2 highly paid WR's who have 2 TD's between them this year.

Their pay is definitely out of wack for their production.

[WindyCitySteel]

Addison and DJ should never be mentioned in the same sentance. Addison is a beast and still a rookie. It's like comparing a Rolls Royce to a Vega.

Exactly -- Minnesota is one of several teams where DJ would be relegated to the 3rd WR.

[papillon]

Personally, I think DJ is going to come around and be a productive WR for the Steelers the rest of this year. Pickett is going to be a different quarterback than he was for the first 11 games. We could see the difference it made in his confidence, I think it will be contagious and rub off on DJ and Pickens. IMO, our WRs are going to be problems for defenses, particularly if Pickett and Freiermuth continue to be on the same page. What lies in store for next year is unknown and will be probably well into the off-season.

Pappy

[Northern_Blitz]

Pickett RZ Completion %

2022 - 42.6%
2023 - 44.8% - this is Derek Carr, Geno Smith level

and before you say it, every QB has RZ drops... saw one last night with Geno Smith

Most people agreed after last season it was one of Pickett's priorities that he needed to improve on this year. So, mathematically, yes he's improved.

Kenny is still bad in the red zone.

But at least last game he seemed to revert back to rookie season form by being able to move the ball between the 20s.

Arizona has a terrible defense, so hopefully we get a multiple TD game from KP this week.

Although, AZ seems to be the kind of team where you could probably run every play and win. And we are the kind of team that wouldn't get "seduced" by the thought of passing against that kind of team.

[Joel Buchsbaum]

Kenny is still bad in the red zone.

But at least last game he seemed to revert back to rookie season form by being able to move the ball between the 20s.

Arizona has a terrible defense, so hopefully we get a multiple TD game from KP this week.

Although, AZ seems to be the kind of team where you could probably run every play and win. And we are the kind of team that wouldn't get "seduced" by the thought of passing against that kind of team.

Kenny is a one read QB, and doesn't risk many passes in the middle of the field or deep along the sidelines. He is weak at reading defenses. Arizona is terrible on defense with a lot of problems. Kenny should be able to do well. Should ...