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  • NorthCoast
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    • Sep 2008
    • 26640

    #31
    He's leaving them in the dust........



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    • Steel Maniac
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      • Apr 2017
      • 19472

      #32
      Originally posted by skyhawk
      It's like Tomlin is just invisible in these discussions. That's your answer. It's been a long time too. Not just this year.
      yep. Warren has shown for awhile now that he's been the superior running back. It should be a 70/30 split at least going forward.

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      • hawaiiansteel
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        • May 2008
        • 35649

        #33
        Originally posted by feltdizz
        He wasn't even on the field.

        Canada should be fired for that alone.
        and he was

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        • feltdizz
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          • May 2008
          • 27568

          #34
          Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
          and he was
          indeed indeed!! My homie called me and his mom is up there in age so anytime he calls early I get worried it's bad news.

          "did you hear?.. is it true?"

          me: hear what?

          They fired Canada!!!
          Steelers 27
          Rats 16

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          • Chucktownsteeler
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            • May 2008
            • 6847

            #35
            Pony Backfield, pony backfield!!
            Help me find my post proving I am a Yinzer!

            I will tip my hat to Tomlin if he has a winning record and the team makes the play-offs in the upcoming season.

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            • NorthCoast
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              • Sep 2008
              • 26640

              #36
              Warren has passed Harris on the one stat he dominated:

              Also, nearly 1 in every 3 rushes by Warren results in a first down. For Harris it's 1 in 5.



              We don't need no stinkin Etienne!



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              • Captain Lemming
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                • Jun 2008
                • 16063

                #37
                Originally posted by NorthCoast
                Warren has passed Harris on the one stat he dominated:

                Also, nearly 1 in every 3 rushes by Warren results in a first down. For Harris it's 1 in 5.



                We don't need no stinkin Etienne!



                THIS explains Warrens success with a bad line. Najee is a good back when we block well. But Warren has leagues best make you miss ability which can overcome bad line play.
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                In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

                TCFCLTC-
                The Coach Formerly Considered Less Than Cowher

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                • Captain Lemming
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                  • Jun 2008
                  • 16063

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Chucktownsteeler
                  Pony Backfield, pony backfield!!
                  I am all about it.
                  What people forget is that these guys BOTH are impressive in the pass game as receivers and are are nice blockers who can pass block and lead block for each other.

                  Plus it promotes Warren without demoting Najee who is showing great leadership and before this last game has been running well.

                  I think the best 11 includes BOTH.
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                  In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

                  TCFCLTC-
                  The Coach Formerly Considered Less Than Cowher

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                  • feltdizz
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                    • May 2008
                    • 27568

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Captain Lemming
                    THIS explains Warrens success with a bad line. Najee is a good back when we block well. But Warren has leagues best make you miss ability which can overcome bad line play.
                    he occasionally breaks tackles with that spin move behind the LOS but most of his missed tackles are downfield because he actually has some moves.

                    Najee.. jumps. He used to stiff arm and punish guys but its like someone deletes his caches of moves in Madden.
                    Steelers 27
                    Rats 16

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                    • Steel Maniac
                      Banned
                      • Apr 2017
                      • 19472

                      #40
                      ESPN’s Jeremy Fowler believes Jaylen Warren and George Pickens will benefit from the Steelers’ switch to interim offensive coordinator Mike Sullivan.


                      The Matt Canada reign of terror ended this week, and the Steelers named Sullivan the new play caller. “You don’t have to be a football savant to know Warren should average more than eight carries per game and Pickens should get more than seven targets per game,” Fowler said, adding Sullivan “knows how to target his top options.” Fowler pointed to Odell Beckham seeing 169 targets in Sullivan’s 2016 Giants offense. Warren, nominally the team’s starter, is still running behind Najee Harris for some strange reason. Perhaps that changes starting in Week 12 against the Bengals.

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                      • hawaiiansteel
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                        • May 2008
                        • 35649

                        #41
                        Originally posted by Steel Maniac
                        Warren, nominally the team’s starter, is still running behind Najee Harris for some strange reason. Perhaps that changes starting in Week 12 against the Bengals.
                        I thought you said Warren was named the team's starter two weeks ago?

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                        • Mr.wizard
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                          • May 2014
                          • 6686

                          #42
                          They don't have to demote anyone or lessen anybodys load to get them more touches they just need to sustain more drives.

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                          • Steel Maniac
                            Banned
                            • Apr 2017
                            • 19472

                            #43
                            Originally posted by Mr.wizard
                            They don't have to demote anyone or lessen anybodys load to get them more touches they just need to sustain more drives.
                            I agree. By completing a necessary pass or two along the way to sustain those drives.

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                            • NorthCoast
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                              • Sep 2008
                              • 26640

                              #44
                              Seen some posters elsewhere saying Warren benefits from more favorable late down runs than Harris has gotten:

                              Warren Harris
                              1st down atts 81 418
                              2nd down atts 63 260
                              3rd down atts 10 37
                              4th down atts 3 4
                              1st down rate on 1st & 10 runs 14% 8%
                              1st down rate on 2nd & < 6yds 50% 25%
                              Not seeing where he is getting favorable treatment.

                              What does seem to be definitely true is that Harris' runs are mostly up the middle while Warren can and does bounce to outside runs. (Harris' outside runs are mostly fails or short yards). So Harris' game is limited to his abilities not the play calling.

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                              • Joel Buchsbaum
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                                • Jan 2021
                                • 7744

                                #45
                                Originally posted by NorthCoast
                                Seen some posters elsewhere saying Warren benefits from more favorable late down runs than Harris has gotten:

                                Warren Harris
                                1st down atts 81 418
                                2nd down atts 63 260
                                3rd down atts 10 37
                                4th down atts 3 4
                                1st down rate on 1st & 10 runs 14% 8%
                                1st down rate on 2nd & < 6yds 50% 25%
                                Not seeing where he is getting favorable treatment.

                                What does seem to be definitely true is that Harris' runs are mostly up the middle while Warren can and does bounce to outside runs. (Harris' outside runs are mostly fails or short yards). So Harris' game is limited to his abilities not the play calling.
                                Yep. Harris is limited in where he can be used, and when he is used is Mr. 4.0 a carry. Don't look now , but Warren has been playing like a top 10 RB in the NFL for the last 3 games.
                                Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game in seven years and counting. The earliest will be eight years. I guess that in Art Rooney's II, opinion is worth a 3 year extension.

                                Our 2024 draft looks to be grade A. Our 2023 draft is an A. The roster is talented, but Mike Tomlin is still the head coach.

                                *** Mike Tomlin is the best coach since the AFL- NFL merger that has not won a playoff game in 8 seasons or more. It's either him or Lewis. ***

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