Pre Season: Bills @ Steelers..What are you looking to see in this game?

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  • pczach
    Backup
    • Jul 2023
    • 303

    #46
    Originally posted by Oviedo
    Did you forget Jarvis Jones? Was Jamain Stephens under Colbert?

    They played in the NFL for several years and with different teams. Jarvis Jones could at least play the run a little bit. Green hasn't shown that he can play football at all to this point. He's a center and can't even snap the football. They passed up Creed Humphrey, who went to the Pro Bowl his rookie season, because they thought they found the next great Steelers center.

    For the record, I'm not forgetting anybody. I know you don't know me from other message boards, but I told everyone that would listen that Jarvis Jones was a bad pick before the draft and was praying they wouldn't draft him in the first round.

    I hated the Artie Burns pick. I knew he was too young and inexperienced but hoped for quick development and growth. It never came.

    I thought Stephens was a reach, but wasn't as sure about the outcome.
    Last edited by pczach; 08-17-2023, 11:57 AM.

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    • Steel Maniac
      Banned
      • Apr 2017
      • 19472

      #47
      Originally posted by papillon
      There just hasn't been much positive coming out of camp and, to be fair, there hasn't been any negative about Najee. I know he's good but Warren is playing well and if there's a true competition it would be a close call right now. Me, personally, who has nothing to do with personnel decisions would want to see Najee play in a game just to see where he is at. As you have said many times, injuries ar epart of the game, you can't play personnel worrying about them being injured. If that were the case then Pickett shouldn't be playing. All many of us would like to see is where Najee is at currently for this season, there has been so little information about him.

      Najee not having a rushing attempt is Canada's fault, not the fans.

      Pappy
      This season is going to set the stage for NH. He's going to have to show that he can be a force. He was drafted in the first round and I want to see what we were expecting from a first round runningback. I want to see 4.5 yards a carry from him.

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      • whisper
        Legend
        • Mar 2020
        • 9423

        #48
        Originally posted by pczach
        Yep. Maybe the worst evaluation of a player in the Kevin Colbert era.
        Gonna have to give that honor to one of the failed 1st-round picks: Jarvis Jones, Artie Burnt, Devin Bushed, Evander in-the-Hood.

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        • feltdizz
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          • May 2008
          • 27532

          #49
          Originally posted by papillon
          There just hasn't been much positive coming out of camp and, to be fair, there hasn't been any negative about Najee. I know he's good but Warren is playing well and if there's a true competition it would be a close call right now. Me, personally, who has nothing to do with personnel decisions would want to see Najee play in a game just to see where he is at. As you have said many times, injuries ar epart of the game, you can't play personnel worrying about them being injured. If that were the case then Pickett shouldn't be playing. All many of us would like to see is where Najee is at currently for this season, there has been so little information about him.

          Najee not having a rushing attempt is Canada's fault, not the fans.

          Pappy
          We have no idea if Pickett audibled out of a run or not on that first drive. I think the first team will play at least a quarter in game 2 but I don’t think preseason has any impact on the RB1 position. Najee has 20 TD’s the last 2 years. Najee is the RB1. Warren is RB2. I do expect Warren to get more playing time, he deserves it.
          Steelers 27
          Rats 16

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          • Steel Maniac
            Banned
            • Apr 2017
            • 19472

            #50
            There's no way NH isn't our RB1 as of now. Not enough evidence to support demoting him from that. He's our RB1 until further notice.

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            • hawaiiansteel
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              • May 2008
              • 35648

              #51
              Originally posted by feltdizz
              Najee has 20 TD’s the last 2 years. Najee is the RB1. Warren is RB2. I do expect Warren to get more playing time, he deserves it.
              agreed....

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              • Joel Buchsbaum
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                • Jan 2021
                • 7744

                #52
                Originally posted by papillon
                There just hasn't been much positive coming out of camp and, to be fair, there hasn't been any negative about Najee. I know he's good but Warren is playing well and if there's a true competition it would be a close call right now. Me, personally, who has nothing to do with personnel decisions would want to see Najee play in a game just to see where he is at. As you have said many times, injuries ar epart of the game, you can't play personnel worrying about them being injured. If that were the case then Pickett shouldn't be playing. All many of us would like to see is where Najee is at currently for this season, there has been so little information about him.

                Najee not having a rushing attempt is Canada's fault, not the fans.

                Pappy
                Unless it Tomlin's plan to rest all young and uninjured players in camp, Najee is well, not sanding out. But Warren and MacFarland are with the same blockers. Hmmm... I agree it is not Canada's fault. Najee just is not that good.

                The Buffalo game will confirm more. No crystal ball here, but I think Warren could take the job with a good game and be announce as the RB #1 in the season opener agianst San Fransisco. The #1's are not playing much in the final pre-season game. Being that this is his third year, Najee Harris' training wheels are off.
                Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game in seven years and counting. The earliest will be eight years. I guess that in Art Rooney's II, opinion is worth a 3 year extension.

                Our 2024 draft looks to be grade A. Our 2023 draft is an A. The roster is talented, but Mike Tomlin is still the head coach.

                *** Mike Tomlin is the best coach since the AFL- NFL merger that has not won a playoff game in 8 seasons or more. It's either him or Lewis. ***

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                • whisper
                  Legend
                  • Mar 2020
                  • 9423

                  #53
                  Originally posted by Joel Buchsbaum
                  Unless it Tomlin's plan to rest all young and uninjured players in camp, Najee is well, not sanding out. But Warren and MacFarland are with the same blockers. Hmmm... I agree it is not Canada's fault. Najee just is not that good.

                  The Buffalo game will confirm more. No crystal ball here, but I think Warren could take the job with a good game and be announce as the RB #1 in the season opener agianst San Fransisco. The #1's are not playing much in the final pre-season game. Being that this is his third year, Najee Harris' training wheels are off.
                  You are underestimating the stubbornness of Rooney.

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                  • Steel Maniac
                    Banned
                    • Apr 2017
                    • 19472

                    #54
                    Originally posted by whisper
                    You are underestimating the stubbornness of Rooney.
                    I fear there is more than a grain of truth in what your saying about Rooney's stubbornness. But the determination won't be until after this coming season.

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                    • hawaiiansteel
                      Legend
                      • May 2008
                      • 35648

                      #55
                      Originally posted by Joel Buchsbaum
                      The Buffalo game will confirm more. No crystal ball here, but I think Warren could take the job with a good game and be announce as the RB #1 in the season opener agianst San Fransisco.
                      you have been correct about Jaylen Warren.

                      but unless Najee is injured, there is ZERO chance that Warren is announced as the starter over him for opening week.

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                      • feltdizz
                        Legend
                        • May 2008
                        • 27532

                        #56
                        Tomlin said its nothing earth shattering. Just lightening Najee’s load in training camp.

                        Folks scream about running a RB into the ground and as soon as they stop doing its because Najee is being replaced. smh.
                        Steelers 27
                        Rats 16

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                        • flippy
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                          • Dec 2008
                          • 17088

                          #57
                          Originally posted by feltdizz
                          Tomlin said its nothing earth shattering. Just lightening Najee’s load in training camp.

                          Folks scream about running a RB into the ground and as soon as they stop doing its because Najee is being replaced. smh.
                          It’s all right. People will get on board with Najee by year end when he lights it up this year.

                          I think folks problem is more perspective than reality. I think Najee is the new Bus but a trim scaled down version. Being healthy behind a good line in a good system will make all the difference.
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                          • steeler_fan_in_t.o.
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                            • May 2008
                            • 10281

                            #58
                            For those thinking that Najee might not be starting day one, look for him to play longer than the other starters. If he leaves when the starters do it is because they know who he is, and that is RB1. If he stays out longer then it would be because the staff wants a longer look, which would mean there could be question marks.

                            I disagree that this game is any kind of step up in competition. The Bills aren't doing anything innovative with Allen, they know who he is. Like the Steelers, the Bills will be focusing on their question marks.

                            I'll be looking to see if Anderson gets some early snaps at C. If so, it indicates that Green is on his last legs (no kidding!)

                            I want to see the rotation at ILB. Kwon has shaken things up a bit since arriving, and may have the inside track to start.

                            The two Edge starters are set. Who is up next between Herbig, Golden, and Roche?

                            I can see some young linemen stepping up between Leal, Benton (if available), and Milk. Then there are the vets in Adams, Fehoko, and Watts. I'd like to see all three young guys make it.

                            I think Gentry could be battling for his life. On a one year deal, but cheap to keep and cheap to cut. If he can't stay ahead of Big Wash, where does he get snaps?

                            #5 WR - I'd say the top 4 are set after the CA3 67 yard TD last week. I can see a lot of Boykin, White, Gunner, and Hakeem fighting over one spot.
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                            • Northern_Blitz
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                              • Dec 2008
                              • 24373

                              #59
                              Originally posted by feltdizz
                              Tomlin said its nothing earth shattering. Just lightening Najee’s load in training camp.

                              Folks scream about running a RB into the ground and as soon as they stop doing its because Najee is being replaced. smh.
                              Yep. It's good not to overload the RB1 in camp.

                              I'm not a huge Najee fan (but believe he's better than Warren). But I don't think it's surprising that he isn't getting a ton of work so far.

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                              • papillon
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                                • Mar 2008
                                • 11340

                                #60
                                Originally posted by feltdizz
                                We have no idea if Pickett audibled out of a run or not on that first drive. I think the first team will play at least a quarter in game 2 but I don?t think preseason has any impact on the RB1 position. Najee has 20 TD?s the last 2 years. Najee is the RB1. Warren is RB2. I do expect Warren to get more playing time, he deserves it.
                                The thread was titled "What do you want to see in this game?" I would like to see Najee get some work. He isn't losing the RB1 job in camp and, I don't believe he should. What I would like to see is him get some work, that's it, some work. He didn't have a carry as you mentioned, so I'd like to see him get 4-5 carries and play the 1st quarter. That would be a work load of about 16-20 carries in a game, that seems reasonable to me.

                                Pappy
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