CLE PD: Steelers "Luck Running Out"

[SteelerOfDeVille]

So, apparently there was some ineptitude and Bill dealt with it, kudos. He sure made a difference quickly, turning a losing team to an 11-5 team his 1st year. I wonder who the 2 players were. Lipps and Hinkle?

that happens with coaching changes... didn't Peezy have problems when Tomlin came along? Seems like that's why they had to go get Woodley right away...

[Northern_Blitz]

I think Tomlin would be fine again if we had a legit OC who had control of the offense. It just doesn't seem like that's in the cards. Next offseason will be very important.

Yep.

Just like Cowher, you want good to great coordinators. Both guys have the primary skill of motivation / relationship management. And personally, I think that's very important for HCs in the current era.

It's also why the Blount situation was so disappointing. Relationship management is Tomlin's "super power".

[whisper]

that happens with coaching changes... didn't Peezy have problems when Tomlin came along? Seems like that's why they had to go get Woodley right away...

Peezy played here in 2006. Was that Tomlin's 1st year? Or was it 2007? I think 2007. And Peezy was a Fin. So Peezy missed out of the Super Bowl win in 2008.

[whisper]

Yep.

Just like Cowher, you want good to great coordinators. Both guys have the primary skill of motivation / relationship management. And personally, I think that's very important for HCs in the current era.

It's also why the Blount situation was so disappointing. Relationship management is Tomlin's "super power".

Yea, but he's faltered there as well, maybe not his fault, maybe just dealing with problem players in Blount, Harrison, AB and others.

[SteelerOfDeVille]

Yep.

Just like Cowher, you want good to great coordinators. Both guys have the primary skill of motivation / relationship management. And personally, I think that's very important for HCs in the current era.

It's also why the Blount situation was so disappointing. Relationship management is Tomlin's "super power".

I think you just nailed it - they are both similar in motivation and relationship management; and both need(ed) superior coordinators as neither is seen as an x's and o's guru.

I think the defense is acceptable, but Canada needs to improve significantly or this team will have no success (at least what WE expect as success)

[SteelerOfDeVille]

Peezy played here in 2006. Was that Tomlin's 1st year? Or was it 2007? I think 2007. And Peezy was a Fin. So Peezy missed out of the Super Bowl win in 2008.

I may be misremembering, but... iirc, Peezy didn't want to play for Tomlin (AT ALL) so his services weren't retained... he was just too vocal as "one of Cowher's guys".

Instead, he drafted Woodley, but started Harrison (who was behind Porter and Haggans)...

[NJ-STEELER]

You have dementia?
Think about and remember the NFL coverage, broadcast, ect in the 1990s and compare what it is today.

Direct TV didn't start NFL ticket until 1994. The internet was dial up. Ect. Ect ect.

Coweher was an unknown to the general population of the country.

ok there burgy. was espn not around. derrick thomas not a household name

more evidence of people like you only watching steeler games

[NorthCoast]

I may be misremembering, but... iirc, Peezy didn't want to play for Tomlin (AT ALL) so his services weren't retained... he was just too vocal as "one of Cowher's guys".

Instead, he drafted Woodley, but started Harrison (who was behind Porter and Haggans)...

Was Peezy the one that said he only wanted to play for a HC that had played in the NFL?

[feltdizz]

ok there burgy. was espn not around. derrick thomas not a household name

more evidence of people like you only watching steeler games

Maybe you need to accept that most Steeler fans weren?t watching KC games like that so the city wasn?t familiar with Cowher.

You can act like its some triumph to declare that you watched all the games in 1989 but the reality is most folks weren?t tuning in to see KC AND most Steeler fans back then weren?t tuning in to see who the KC coordinators were.

Seems like an easy thing to accept unless you don?t want to believe folks who lived in Pittsburgh at the time.

even now, most fans will know the names of most teams best players but ask who the coordinators are for those teams and more than half won?t know all of them.

[SteelerOfDeVille]

Was Peezy the one that said he only wanted to play for a HC that had played in the NFL?

dude, that might be it...

[BURGH86STEEL]

ok there burgy. was espn not around. derrick thomas not a household name

more evidence of people like you only watching steeler games

In your own ignorance you attempted to compare the NFL/sports world of today to the sports world of 30+ years ago.

[feltdizz]

In your own ignorance you attempted to compare the NFL/sports world of today to the sports world of 30+ years ago.

kinda feels like he believes since he knew who Cowher was the whole city of Pittsburgh should've known.

that isn't how this works.. lol

[NJ-STEELER]

Maybe you need to accept that most Steeler fans weren?t watching KC games like that so the city wasn?t familiar with Cowher.

You can act like its some triumph to declare that you watched all the games in 1989 but the reality is most folks weren?t tuning in to see KC AND most Steeler fans back then weren?t tuning in to see who the KC coordinators were.

Seems like an easy thing to accept unless you don?t want to believe folks who lived in Pittsburgh at the time.

even now, most fans will know the names of most teams best players but ask who the coordinators are for those teams and more than half won?t know all of them.

so shut your holes and maybe open ur ears to someone who has league information. that someone is me


i realize i'm not talking to the biggest steeler / football fans on here. your posts clearly exe,plify that

like the real football experts in the city didn't know one of their own was the DC of the chiefs.hahahah tweedle dee and tweedle dumb over here

[Blitzer]

Regarding Porter, It was a lot easier cutting him knowing they had a a lot cheaper guy in James Harrison ready to start. If I recall correctly Colbert came out and basically said yeah it sucks but we need the cap space and Joey was on his last year of his contract and he was over 30.

Regarding the actual topic of the thread. I 100% want more. A playoff run, a SB appearance, Number 7. something more than what the last several years have brought. But the non losing season deal is in itself impressive.

[BURGH86STEEL]

kinda feels like he believes since he knew who Cowher was the whole city of Pittsburgh should've known.

that isn't how this works.. lol

He only acts like he knew who Cowher was before Cowher was hired. Google was his friend.