Steelers 2022 Offensive Rankings

[Captain Lemming]

Playcalling and scheme has to get better, too. He can't be consistently asked to fit balls into tight windows to blanketed receivers because the first and second down runs failed.

Also, it's OK to score outside the red zone, something that is anathema to the design of this offense.

The Steelers offense isn't designed to score points, it's designed to burn clock, play for FGs, hope for TDs.

Literally NOBODY in the HISTORY of the game has an offense “designed” to score field goals. That is beyond ridiculous.

[whisper]

Literally NOBODY in the HISTORY of the game has an offense “designed” to score field goals. That is beyond ridiculous.

Pgh was 26th in PPG with 18.1 PPG. Since offense's job is to score, and they came in at 26th, I'd say it's safe to say they SUCKED on offense. And if they don't pump up to 26 PPG or so, nothing else matters. Can they improve by 8 PPG? They had better.

https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/points-per-game

[Captain Lemming]

Pgh was 26th in PPG with 18.1 PPG. Since offense's job is to score, and they came in at 26th, I'd say it's safe to say they SUCKED on offense. And if they don't pump up to 26 PPG or so, nothing else matters. Can they improve by 8 PPG? They had better.

https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/points-per-game

I actually don’t disagree with anything you just said. We need to score way more to compete for a championship.

You guys act like what we saw last year is with an offensive line that struggled with cohesion early, a ARB who started the season clearly injured, a backup caliber QB, and a raw rookie who did not even work with the ones, is a ceiling that is set in stone.

Nothing you said negates anything I said in my previous post.

[NorthCoast]

Playcalling and scheme has to get better, too. He can't be consistently asked to fit balls into tight windows to blanketed receivers because the first and second down runs failed.

Also, it's OK to score outside the red zone, something that is anathema to the design of this offense.

The Steelers offense isn't designed to score points, it's designed to burn clock, play for FGs, hope for TDs.

I think you are putting too much blame on Canada and not enough on KP. In the same offense, Trubisky had 4 RZ TDs on 11 attempts. The year before, Roethlisberger in the same offense had 16 TDs on 82 attempts. KP was half that TD%.

[WindyCitySteel]

I think you are putting too much blame on Canada and not enough on KP. In the same offense, Trubisky had 4 RZ TDs on 11 attempts. The year before, Roethlisberger in the same offense had 16 TDs on 82 attempts. KP was half that TD%.

Are you counting KP's TD runs? And yes, I would expect Kenny not to be up to a HOF'er's level or a 6-year vet's level as a rookie, but at no point during the last two seasons was this offense very good, across multiple QBs.

The offense has been shyte for two seasons. How many points came late in games when the plan was scrapped?

I think it would be a safe bet that if Canada had been fired, nobody else would have hired him as an OC. And we're putting our franchise QB's first two years in his hands.

[feltdizz]

I think you are putting too much blame on Canada and not enough on KP. In the same offense, Trubisky had 4 RZ TDs on 11 attempts. The year before, Roethlisberger in the same offense had 16 TDs on 82 attempts. KP was half that TD%.

I’m probably the biggest Kenny fan on here and I was called a Tomlin/Canada defender for saying Kenny was responsible for some of those bad RZ passes.

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Literally NOBODY in the HISTORY of the game has an offense “designed” to score field goals. That is beyond ridiculous.

That’s what sets us apart.
Our way is unique from every other nfl team.
We are the standard. Teams all want to be like us but can’t.
We draft totally different than any other team. We look for ‘steeler types’ that excel at producing fgs.
The Steelers call them ‘tweeners’. Somewhere between not scoring at all and scoring touchdowns.

[whatever]

Are you counting KP's TD runs? And yes, I would expect Kenny not to be up to a HOF'er's level or a 6-year vet's level as a rookie, but at no point during the last two seasons was this offense very good, across multiple QBs.

The offense has been shyte for two seasons. How many points came late in games when the plan was scrapped?

I think it would be a safe bet that if Canada had been fired, nobody else would have hired him as an OC. And we're putting our franchise QB's first two years in his hands.

Canada would have a job in 1 minute.
You do know that he has the same record as Tomlin since he’s been here?

[NorthCoast]

Are you counting KP's TD runs? And yes, I would expect Kenny not to be up to a HOF'er's level or a 6-year vet's level as a rookie, but at no point during the last two seasons was this offense very good, across multiple QBs.

The offense has been shyte for two seasons. How many points came late in games when the plan was scrapped?

I think it would be a safe bet that if Canada had been fired, nobody else would have hired him as an OC. And we're putting our franchise QB's first two years in his hands.

Let's turn it around then. If KP balls out and has 20 RZ TDs will you be giving Canada the credit or KP?

I'm not defending Canada or his offense. But who do you think gets more credit, the OC or the QB, for the offensive trend below (2022 data)?

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[WindyCitySteel]

Literally NOBODY in the HISTORY of the game has an offense “designed” to score field goals. That is beyond ridiculous.

I think Tomlin happily settles for them and plays it safe when in the red zone, hoping for someone to make a play. They don't scheme anything open, it's a high school level offense.

[whisper]

I actually don’t disagree with anything you just said. We need to score way more to compete for a championship.

You guys act like what we saw last year is with an offensive line that struggled with cohesion early, a ARB who started the season clearly injured, a backup caliber QB, and a raw rookie who did not even work with the ones, is a ceiling that is set in stone.

Nothing you said negates anything I said in my previous post.

Maybe it doesn't "negate" anything you said, but it cuts to the quick of the matter and shreds the subject removing the bull shlt. You repeated the BS about all the excuses associated with why we were 26th in PPG (with only generating 18.1 PPG for the year).

But guess what happens in 2023? Those same old excuses don't mean jack shlt. So when our offenses sputters and Cool Shades feel all good about winning games 17-13, our weak PPG is gonna catch up and known of the Cool Shades quick silver tongue and quaint quips are going to save us. Improving from 18 PPG to 20 PPG ain't gonna mean jack shlt. And then you and the excuse group will be left without your "but our QB didn't start camp with the ones" and move onto new excuses such as "but our QB got hurt" or that "the OC is fail." We might even make the playoffs but will not win a game. And then we will have to hear about "one step at a time."

But all the while Tomlin will be playing with fear and trying to win with D and not screwing up on offense.

[whisper]

I think Tomlin happily settles for them and plays it safe when in the red zone, hoping for someone to make a play. They don't scheme anything open, it's a high school level offense.

It's also how you sit at 26th in PPG.

[WindyCitySteel]

Let's turn it around then. If KP balls out and has 20 RZ TDs will you be giving Canada the credit or KP?

Need to see it play out. If Kenny is hitting open guys because of scheme, Canada gets the credit. If he's making plays to overcome the scheme, Kenny does. If it happens, it will likely be a combination of both.

[WindyCitySteel]

Can anyone find a play like this schemed up for the Steelers in the last five years?

https://www.49ers.com/video/yac-bros-strike-again-deebo-samuel-sprints-74-yards-for-a-touchdown-playoffs

[WindyCitySteel]

Or this?