Andy Reid is a hall of fame coach for sure

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  • NJ-STEELER
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    • May 2008
    • 12563

    #31

    thanks for clearing that up.

    They did have a bad evaluation?
    I wonder who thought passing on creed in the 1st and 2nd round and drafting green in the 3rd was a good idea.

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    • crushedspirit
      Pro Bowler
      • Feb 2021
      • 2214

      #32
      It's extremely difficult to win a SB or even getting there, so setting that as your basis for success is a tad far fetched. I'll take a coach who can get his team into the Conference Championship game on a frequent basis and be ecstatic with anything above it. Reid got the Eagles there or beyond 5 times in his 14 seasons there, and now he's accomplished that with KC 5 years in a row.

      10 Conference Championship appearances in 24 seasons of coaching is actually an amazing accomplishment, and he is only the 3rd coach in NFL history to have 10+, (Laundry and Hoodie are the others)
      Last edited by crushedspirit; 02-13-2023, 02:57 PM.

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      • NJ-STEELER
        Legend
        • May 2008
        • 12563

        #33
        Maybe Mcnabb was just a choke artist.
        puking in the huddle trying to drive down the field for the winning score ??

        sounds like he wasn’t made for that type of pressure.

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        • NorthCoast
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          • Sep 2008
          • 26636

          #34
          Originally posted by NJ-STEELER
          thanks for clearing that up.

          They did have a bad evaluation?
          I wonder who thought passing on creed in the 1st and 2nd round and drafting green in the 3rd was a good idea.
          I said the same thing at the end of last season. It's one thing to make that bad of mistake. But if the team doesn't review and understand where they went wrong it's double damning. There was some scouting staff changes this season so maybe that was an outcome of it?

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          • feltdizz
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            • May 2008
            • 27531

            #35
            hold up.. so for 2 years people have been pedaling a lie? lmao
            Steelers 27
            Rats 16

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            • BURGH86STEEL
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              • May 2008
              • 6921

              #36
              Originally posted by NJ-STEELER
              thanks for clearing that up.

              They did have a bad evaluation?
              I wonder who thought passing on creed in the 1st and 2nd round and drafting green in the 3rd was a good idea.
              The Steelers made good selections with Harris and Freiermuth.

              I guess they thought Greene offered near similar value as Creed and they believed Harris and PF would be gone by the 3rd round?

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              • NJ-STEELER
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                • May 2008
                • 12563

                #37


                at least there's someone coaching at a varsity level

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                • crushedspirit
                  Pro Bowler
                  • Feb 2021
                  • 2214

                  #38
                  Originally posted by NJ-STEELER
                  https://twitter.com/danorlovsky7/sta...ield-103198%2F

                  at least there's someone coaching at a varsity level
                  Dan has become one of my favs to watch for stuff like this.

                  Reid is just on a different level when it comes to understanding offense, adjusting to what the D shows them, and just overall game planning and scheming.

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                  • Steel Maniac
                    Banned
                    • Apr 2017
                    • 19472

                    #39
                    Originally posted by crushedspirit
                    Dan has become one of my favs to watch for stuff like this.

                    Reid is just on a different level when it comes to understanding offense, adjusting to what the D shows them, and just overall game planning and scheming.
                    Agreed. I think Shanahan is close to Reid in that aspect. Watching the Rams this year and they never seemed as innovative as in previous years; I'm going to attribute that to losing Kevin O'Connell to the Vikings.

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                    • hawaiiansteel
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                      • May 2008
                      • 35649

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Steel Maniac
                      Watching the Rams this year and they never seemed as innovative as in previous years; I'm going to attribute that to losing Kevin O'Connell to the Vikings.
                      it had a lot more to do with the amount of injuries the Rams had on their OL, they were down to 3rd and 4th stringers.

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                      • crushedspirit
                        Pro Bowler
                        • Feb 2021
                        • 2214

                        #41
                        Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
                        it had a lot more to do with the amount of injuries the Rams had on their OL, they were down to 3rd and 4th stringers.
                        Rams were decimated this season and had no shot

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                        • Steel Maniac
                          Banned
                          • Apr 2017
                          • 19472

                          #42
                          Originally posted by crushedspirit
                          Rams were decimated this season and had no shot
                          Rams opened against the Bills; and they didn't look right from the start. Before the injuries. Granted they lost Wentworth from the O-line from the previous season but they just didn't look right opening night..no innovativeness whatsoever.

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                          • hawaiiansteel
                            Legend
                            • May 2008
                            • 35649

                            #43
                            Originally posted by crushedspirit
                            Rams were decimated this season and had no shot
                            exactly.

                            anyone who says otherwise hasn't been watching their games.

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                            • Northern_Blitz
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                              • Dec 2008
                              • 24373

                              #44
                              Originally posted by NorthCoast
                              How dare you post facts like this!
                              FWIW I think the Depot guys also talk about how in the Colbert era you can tell if we're going to draft guys in the 1st or 2nd by who send to the pro-days.

                              1st round guys we have Tomlin and / or Colbert (often both).

                              2nd round guys, I think they say probably one of those guys or a coordinator or position coach. For example, in the same draft our TE coach worked out PF and Tomlin and Colbert were there in person to watch.
                              We already knew Mike Tomlin and Kevin Colbert were attending Penn State's Thursday Pro Day. Now we know the third and final member they brought along.


                              This is why Dave had been saying for the entire lead up to the draft "If PF is there in the 2nd, the Steelers are almost certain to take him".

                              So while it seems like it's technically untrue that we "didn't send anyone to Creed H's proday"...there's a stark difference in the interest between PF (TE coach, GM, HC) and Humphrey (assistant OL coach). The PF pick (which was a good pick) was a classic Steelers pick where it seems like we had on name on our board for that round. Similar to Connor Heyward (which I think also looks like a good value pick at that point).

                              I don't think we were seriously interested in Humphrey in the 2nd. If he made it to the 3rd, then maybe. That's when the depot guys talk about the representation at the prodays being position coaches IIRC.
                              Last edited by Northern_Blitz; 02-14-2023, 09:10 AM.

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                              • Northern_Blitz
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                                • Dec 2008
                                • 24373

                                #45
                                Originally posted by Steel Maniac
                                Agreed. I think Shanahan is close to Reid in that aspect. Watching the Rams this year and they never seemed as innovative as in previous years; I'm going to attribute that to losing Kevin O'Connell to the Vikings.
                                Wasn't the consensus that McVay was the offensive guru for the Rams?

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