Andy Reid is a hall of fame coach for sure

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  • Northern_Blitz
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    • Dec 2008
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    #16
    Originally posted by Steel Maniac
    Jimmy Johnson didn't win without Aikman,Smith and Irvin either. So.........
    Yep.

    Funny how the best coaches tend to have the best players, right?

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    • Northern_Blitz
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      • Dec 2008
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      #17
      Originally posted by Steel Maniac
      You know why they are trying to belittle him at every turn right? You know why. It's sad.
      Belittle him?

      Didn't everyone say he belongs in the Hall?

      But HCs in the NFL aren't like Highlander. You are allowed to have more than one in the league.

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      • Steel Maniac
        Banned
        • Apr 2017
        • 19472

        #18
        Originally posted by crushedspirit
        reid built up that franchise from the scrap heap left over by romeo crennel, and while everyone was passing on mahomes mostly because he wasn't a prototypical pocket passer, and because he played in the air raid offense kingsbury was running in texas, reid saw something and traded up to get his guy. He deserves full credit for what he has been able to accomplish in his career.
        here here. How do you think the teams that passed on Mahomes are feeling right now? Glad we were not one of those.

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        • Northern_Blitz
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          • Dec 2008
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          #19
          Originally posted by crushedspirit
          Reid built up that franchise from the scrap heap left over by Romeo Crennel, and while everyone was passing on Mahomes mostly because he wasn't a prototypical pocket passer, and because he played in the Air Raid offense Kingsbury was running in Texas, Reid saw something and traded up to get his guy. He deserves full credit for what he has been able to accomplish in his career.
          Obviously a great pick.

          And another good example of QBs being hard to scout. If people had any real idea of how good he was, there is no way he lasts that long. Or that Mitch goes before him.

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          • NJ-STEELER
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            • May 2008
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            #20
            Originally posted by Steel Maniac
            here here. How do you think the teams that passed on Mahomes are feeling right now? Glad we were not one of those.
            I bring it up to jets fans all the time to needle them.

            they passed on mahomes and Josh Allen.

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            • crushedspirit
              Pro Bowler
              • Feb 2021
              • 2214

              #21
              Originally posted by Northern_Blitz
              Obviously a great pick.

              And another good example of QBs being hard to scout. If people had any real idea of how good he was, there is no way he lasts that long. Or that Mitch goes before him.
              It's because many look for a prototypical QB and dismiss guys like Mahomes. Matt Waldman said it best in his scouting report,

              But every so often, at the risk of earning derision from fans, media, and colleagues, an NFL organization will veer from the established template of robo-quarterbacks rolling off the NCAA assembly line and invest in a player whose on-field intuition is notable, but it’s accompanied by unconventional technique, atypical physical dimensions, or decision-making that’s feared as irredeemably reckless. Because it’s the road less traveled by organizations, the list of failed players that don’t fit the robo-quarterback template are more prominent in the historical lexicon. Unfortunately, the root causes of these failures, which often have to do with factors that have nothing to do with the intuitive play, physical dimensions, or technique, get conflated with these behaviors.
              Reid saw what others simply couldn't,

              If Mahomes becomes the first quarterback taken in this class, he’s likely going to a team that not only has a GM or coach with a more flexible mentality than most of the league but one that doesn’t allow a CYA mentality to dictate important decisions. If Mahomes has long-term success it will only happen if the GM and coach both value Mahomes for how he plays right now.
              Mahomes will not be a good choice for a team that has a coach or general manager that covets the safety of a passer that thinks, moves, and functions as one of the thousands that could have rolled off an assembly line. It’s not that Mahomes can’t develop into a technically sound quarterback, it’s that he needs an organization that will allow him to build on his strengths. And his strengths are not part of that straight and narrow path of traditional quarterback development.
              Many coaches would have simply destroyed his career not knowing how to utilize his talents.
              Last edited by crushedspirit; 02-13-2023, 02:02 PM.

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              • Steel Maniac
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                • Apr 2017
                • 19472

                #22
                Originally posted by NJ-STEELER
                I bring it up to jets fans all the time to needle them.

                they passed on mahomes and Josh Allen.
                ouch!!!!! Now they are sniffing around Rodgers. hahaha

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                • NorthCoast
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                  • Sep 2008
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                  #23
                  Originally posted by crushedspirit
                  ....


                  Many coaches would have simply destroyed his career not knowing how to utilize his talents.
                  Like Cowher with Kordell Stewart??

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                  • crushedspirit
                    Pro Bowler
                    • Feb 2021
                    • 2214

                    #24
                    Originally posted by NorthCoast
                    Like Cowher with Kordell Stewart??
                    Korky was an athlete, but horrible at reading any defense and wildly inaccurate.

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                    • NJ-STEELER
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                      • May 2008
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                      #25
                      Originally posted by crushedspirit
                      It's because many look for a prototypical QB and dismiss guys like Mahomes. Matt Waldman said it best in his scouting report,



                      Reid saw what others simply couldn't,



                      Many coaches would have simply destroyed his career not knowing how to utilize his talents.

                      exactly. Do we think Mikey and company make that kind of move. With an Alex smith type already at qb?

                      they didn’t even send anyone to creed Humphrey’s pro day.
                      the best center in the league when they had a great need at center

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                      • feltdizz
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                        • May 2008
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                        #26
                        Originally posted by Northern_Blitz
                        Belittle him?

                        Didn't everyone say he belongs in the Hall?

                        But HCs in the NFL aren't like Highlander. You are allowed to have more than one in the league.
                        lmao.. these folks sure love make everything about Tomlin.

                        who the hell in here said Reid wasn’t worthy of the HOF?
                        Steelers 27
                        Rats 16

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                        • BURGH86STEEL
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                          • May 2008
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                          #27
                          Originally posted by NJ-STEELER
                          exactly. Do we think Mikey and company make that kind of move. With an Alex smith type already at qb?

                          they didn’t even send anyone to creed Humphrey’s pro day.
                          the best center in the league when they had a great need at center
                          Though not nearly as flashy as say, where Mike Tomlin and Kevin Colbert are going, there was one important piece of Pro Day info worth sharing from

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                          • BURGH86STEEL
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                            • May 2008
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                            #28
                            Originally posted by feltdizz
                            lmao.. these folks sure love make everything about Tomlin.

                            who the hell in here said Reid wasn’t worthy of the HOF?
                            Reid was a great coach before coming to the Chiefs. Reid wouldn't be getting the love from anti Steeler crowd around here before Mahomes came a long. Do you know what the narrative was and would be with out Mahomes? I've seen it with Cohwer and Reid.

                            Something about couldn't win big games. I don't believe in this line of thinking but some of the yahoos around here do.

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                            • NorthCoast
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                              • Sep 2008
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                              #29
                              How dare you post facts like this!

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                              • NorthCoast
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                                • Sep 2008
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                                #30
                                Originally posted by BURGH86STEEL
                                Reid was a great coach before coming to the Chiefs. Reid wouldn't be getting the from anti Steeler crowd around here before Mahomes came a long. Do you know what the narrative was and would be with out Mahomes? I've seen it with Cohwer and Reid.

                                Something about couldn't win big games. I don't believe in this line of thinking but some of the yahoos around here do.
                                Yep. Was exactly my point as well. Reid would have never made it to his 15th season if he was on the Steelers if some 'fans' had their say. Now all of a sudden they call him a 'genius HC'. Guess it was time-based like 95% of their other takes.

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