Divisional Playoffs thread

[WindyCitySteel]

Bengals no line, no problem on that first drive

Yeah, with QBs that can manipulate the pocket and keep eyes downfield you don't need the best OL. We really could use another weapon for Kenny.

[WindyCitySteel]

Wow, Bengals went through the Bills like a hot knife through snow. If the Bills O is on point this could be a fun one.

[crushedspirit]

Bengals no line, no problem on that first drive

[crushedspirit]

You're missing the most obvious difference. SF OL is elite. There second level blocking is second to none. The Steelers OL, while improving, isn't near the talent of SF's.

So invest highly in your Tackles like many of us have been saying for years. Aside from Trent who is a stud LT, and McGlinchey at RT who is good, the interior of the line are scrap heap players. Their RG graded out at 49.6 overall, and the other interior at 69.0 and 64.9. Team lost 2 pro bowlers before the season and didn't miss a beat. They've been coached up as a unit and it shows on the field.

[NorthCoast]

Can't add those guys and line them up like the Steelers do. I've seen two years of MC and his schemes, and they are truly simplistic in nature. Much of it is dependant on just beating the matchups and leaving it up to the players. Their offense would be better of course with such playmakers, but limited in terms of ceiling due to the nature of the play calling. Even before CMC that offense was already creative with guys like Wilson, Mitchell and Mostert in the backfield.

The WR you're thinking of is Jennings, who is a monster blocking downfield and springs many big plays.

You're missing the most obvious difference. SF OL is elite. There second level blocking is second to none. The Steelers OL, while improving, isn't near the talent of SF's.

[crushedspirit]

If Tomlin/Canada’s had Deebo and CMC on offense, our O would be completely different.

You have a RB that runs as good a routes as any WR in CMC and you have a freak in Deebo that can run as well as most running back but add in electrifying athleticism that few other backs have. Plus they have a pretty good TE and FB that offer versatility. Their other WR has turned into a monster blocker downfield that’s been a catalyst for a lot of their big plays.

Compare that to our 21 personnel. Najee, Watt, Pat, George, and DJ.

DJ runs great routes but can’t catch and is afraid of contact.

George will win 80% or jump balls but he’s not a great route runner.

Najee is a good blocker and outlet in the passing game, but he’s not lining up in the X, Y, Z.

Watt is a great hustler on ST.

Pat is a crappy blocker on the LoS but he blocks well downfield like Brandon A.

We not only don’t have versatility at our skill positions, but we have weaknesses in being able to do all the things we need them to do at their one position.


If we use Heyward as an Hback, I think he can add some versatility.

If Pat develops as an in-line blocker, maybe he adds some versatility.

But none of these guys will give you what CMC and Deebo bring to the table.

Plus every time we try to find a versatile guy, he ends up not being good at anything.

Can't add those guys and line them up like the Steelers do. I've seen two years of MC and his schemes, and they are truly simplistic in nature. Much of it is dependant on just beating the matchups and leaving it up to the players. Their offense would be better of course with such playmakers, but limited in terms of ceiling due to the nature of the play calling. Even before CMC that offense was already creative with guys like Wilson, Mitchell and Mostert in the backfield.

The WR you're thinking of is Jennings, who is a monster blocking downfield and springs many big plays.

[flippy]

Every player and analyst mentions schemes and how some coaches are just better at creating mismatches in their play designs. Stop wasting your time trying to explain that to some neanderthals on a message board who believe they are right no matter how factually wrong they are. They can watch this video breakdown of how SF runs the 21 personnel and still not understand what they're watching.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1615485113822842882

If Tomlin/Canada’s had Deebo and CMC on offense, our O would be completely different.

You have a RB that runs as good a routes as any WR in CMC and you have a freak in Deebo that can run as well as most running back but add in electrifying athleticism that few other backs have. Plus they have a pretty good TE and FB that offer versatility. Their other WR has turned into a monster blocker downfield that’s been a catalyst for a lot of their big plays.

Compare that to our 21 personnel. Najee, Watt, Pat, George, and DJ.

DJ runs great routes but can’t catch and is afraid of contact.

George will win 80% or jump balls but he’s not a great route runner.

Najee is a good blocker and outlet in the passing game, but he’s not lining up in the X, Y, Z.

Watt is a great hustler on ST.

Pat is a crappy blocker on the LoS but he blocks well downfield like Brandon A.

We not only don’t have versatility at our skill positions, but we have weaknesses in being able to do all the things we need them to do at their one position.


If we use Heyward as an Hback, I think he can add some versatility.

If Pat develops as an in-line blocker, maybe he adds some versatility.

But none of these guys will give you what CMC and Deebo bring to the table.

Plus every time we try to find a versatile guy, he ends up not being good at anything.

[crushedspirit]

I think if they asked Mikey about this, his response would be

“ yabba dabba doooo”

He's got an old school 3 yards and a cloud of dust mentality, and nothing will change his mind about it.

[NJ-STEELER]

Every player and analyst mentions schemes and how some coaches are just better at creating mismatches in their play designs. Stop wasting your time trying to explain that to some neanderthals on a message board who believe they are right no matter how factually wrong they are. They can watch this video breakdown of how SF runs the 21 personnel and still not understand what they're watching.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1615485113822842882

I think if they asked Mikey about this, his response would be

“ yabba dabba doooo”

[crushedspirit]

Every player and analyst mentions schemes and how some coaches are just better at creating mismatches in their play designs. Stop wasting your time trying to explain that to some neanderthals on a message board who believe they are right no matter how factually wrong they are. They can watch this video breakdown of how SF runs the 21 personnel and still not understand what they're watching.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1615485113822842882

[WindyCitySteel]

yes. Kirk was lined up in the backfield next to the qb to get that match up.

Makes Tomlin and Canada look like fred flintstone and Barney rubble drawing up plays

"Everyone run five yards then turn around" is easier to teach.

I just don't see how anyone can think we can compete in the AFC the next few years by trying to hold everyone to 16 points. That's a formula for a 9-win ceiling, which seems to satisfy most fans and definitely Mr. Rooney.

[NJ-STEELER]

I'm talking about the schemed up TDs. Jax got Kirk on a LB, KC used a nice "pick" route to get Kelce wide open at the goal line. Steelers just try to "line up and beat your man", and execution is blamed every time it fails with nobody open because the D knows the play.

yes. Kirk was lined up in the backfield next to the qb to get that match up.

Makes Tomlin and Canada look like fred flintstone and Barney rubble drawing up plays

[WindyCitySteel]

We run both of those plays.

We do? That kind of stuff is the MO of the Chiefs' offense, a staple. Getting picked out of the grab bag once every four weeks for Pittsburgh isn't the same thing.

[WindyCitySteel]

Do the Steelers even have the cap space to sign one of these premium players?

Not right now, but there will be a lot of movement before FA starts.

[NorthCoast]

Have to go the FA route. Let's see if Weidl convinces the room to make a run for a top OL or DL in FA. Imagine signing O Brown and J Hargrave in FA so you can focus on WR or CB in the early portion of the draft.

I'd much rather they go for a couple impact players like that instead of a bunch of average, which has been the MO for years.

Do the Steelers even have the cap space to sign one of these premium players?