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  • "BuzzNuter"
    Pro Bowler
    • Mar 2019
    • 2062

    #91
    Originally posted by feltdizz
    I think people use all time greats because the hope is a player, especially a first round QB becomes great and not the next Alex Smith or Andy Dalton

    Not sure why more people aren’t reminded of Ben these last 2 games when watching Pickett. He’s nothing like Ben physically of course but last minute drives for the win in must win games???? That is Ben all day.

    Pickett is breaking the pocket and making things happen after the initial play breaks down at critical times in both games.
    You know Alex Smith was a pretty good QB. If not for injuries he may have been able to make some championships. Remember he was replaced by Mahomes. It would not be bad if Picket was Alex Smith sans the injuries.

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    • T.Ferguson
      Pro Bowler
      • Sep 2021
      • 2377

      #92
      Originally posted by "BuzzNuter"
      You know Alex Smith was a pretty good QB. If not for injuries he may have been able to make some championships. Remember he was replaced by Mahomes. It would not be bad if Picket was Alex Smith sans the injuries.
      I liked Smith but he was not a championship QB imo. I remember watching him in a playoff game and it went to OT and it was obvious he wasn't going to get the job done.

      One of the big factors that separates championship QB's from other QB's are the intangibles. The competitiveness, the clutch factor, pocket presence, etc. Either a QB has it or they don't, Smith didn't have it imo. KP might actually possess these intangibles which is what is exciting for me.

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      • feltdizz
        Legend
        • May 2008
        • 27531

        #93
        Originally posted by "BuzzNuter"
        You know Alex Smith was a pretty good QB. If not for injuries he may have been able to make some championships. Remember he was replaced by Mahomes. It would not be bad if Picket was Alex Smith sans the injuries.
        Alex Smith had 1 TD and 11 INT’s his rookie year. Its an insult to use Alex Smith as a ceiling given his first year compared to Kenny.
        Steelers 27
        Rats 16

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        • Northern_Blitz
          Legend
          • Dec 2008
          • 24373

          #94
          Originally posted by feltdizz
          Alex Smith had 1 TD and 11 INT’s his rookie year. Its an insult to use Alex Smith as a ceiling given his first year compared to Kenny.
          Did someone say ceiling?

          Also..Smith played 3 years in college vs. Kenny's 5. So I think it seems pretty reasonable that he wasn't as good as Kenny has been as a rookie since Kenny is more experienced and older / more mature.
          Last edited by Northern_Blitz; 01-05-2023, 03:46 PM.

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          • feltdizz
            Legend
            • May 2008
            • 27531

            #95
            Originally posted by Northern_Blitz
            Did someone say ceiling?

            Also..Smith played 3 years in college vs. Kenny's 5. So I think it seems pretty reasonable that he wasn't as good as Kenny has been as a rookie since Kenny is more experienced and older / more mature.
            Kenny really only played in 2.25 games his freshman year. People really use 5 years like he played every game.

            and yes, when someone says Kenny might be an Alex Smith that is their ceiling. What sense does it
            make to imply Kenny might be Alex Smith on the second floor?
            Last edited by feltdizz; 01-05-2023, 06:00 PM.
            Steelers 27
            Rats 16

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            • Sword
              Pro Bowler
              • Sep 2011
              • 2048

              #96
              Originally posted by Oviedo
              Harris was a beast tonite
              the best game I have ever seen him play!! well done Harris!

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              • Northern_Blitz
                Legend
                • Dec 2008
                • 24373

                #97
                Originally posted by feltdizz
                Kenny really only played in 2.25 games his freshman year. People really use 5 years like he played every game.

                and yes, when someone says Kenny might be an Alex Smith that is their ceiling. What sense does it
                make to imply Kenny might be Alex Smith on the second floor?
                Alex Smith played in 2 games in his freshman year and threw 4 passes.

                Pickett played in 4 games and threw 66 passes.

                If Kenny's first year in college doesn't count, Smith's counts less than nothing.

                Total college passes:
                - Pickett 1674
                - Smith 587

                Remember how "NFL ready" was the name of the game with Pickett? I wonder how many guys threw as many passes in NCAA ball as he did?

                And none of this is bad. But I think it means the "his rookie year was much better than Smith's, so it's an insult to compare them" doesn't hold as much water as people might think at first glance.

                IMO, it makes sense to pick a good (not great) QB as a comp because it sets more reasonable expectations (although most QBs won't have a career as good as Smith's). Then if a guy gets to that level, I think it makes sense to bust out the big comparisons.

                But that's just me. Some like putting the big dream on guys I guess...
                Last edited by Northern_Blitz; 01-05-2023, 09:53 PM.

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                • feltdizz
                  Legend
                  • May 2008
                  • 27531

                  #98
                  Originally posted by Northern_Blitz
                  Alex Smith played in 2 games in his freshman year and threw 4 passes.

                  Pickett played in 4 games and threw 66 passes.

                  If Kenny's first year in college doesn't count, Smith's counts less than nothing.

                  Total college passes:
                  - Pickett 1674
                  - Smith 587

                  Remember how "NFL ready" was the name of the game with Pickett? I wonder how many guys threw as many passes in NCAA ball as he did?

                  And none of this is bad. But I think it means the "his rookie year was much better than Smith's, so it's an insult to compare them" doesn't hold as much water as people might think at first glance.

                  IMO, it makes sense to pick a good (not great) QB as a comp because it sets more reasonable expectations (although most QBs won't have a career as good as Smith's). Then if a guy gets to that level, I think it makes sense to bust out the big comparisons.

                  But that's just me. Some like putting the big dream on guys I guess...
                  I don’t care how many games Alex played on college as a freshman.. lol.

                  Who the hell wants their drafted QB to be Alex Smith?
                  Steelers 27
                  Rats 16

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                  • TheRealTazz864
                    Pro Bowler
                    • Jun 2022
                    • 2163

                    #99
                    Originally posted by feltdizz
                    I don’t care how many games Alex played on college as a freshman.. lol.

                    Who the hell wants their drafted QB to be Alex Smith?
                    I think most people who know what's what say that he STAYED in college for 5 years... I think they don't think he made an impact playing football for five years... They admire the fact that he stayed and played meaningful snaps in his 5th year...

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                    • SteelerOfDeVille
                      Legend
                      • May 2008
                      • 9069

                      Originally posted by feltdizz
                      Glad to see people seeing what I knew all along..

                      Kenny MF Pickett!!!
                      I'm late to the party on this thread, but... this is the first thing i noticed about the kid (and said as much around these parts).

                      You of all people probably recall me jumping in asking if there was room on that bandwagon early on because of me noticing that he had the clutch gene
                      2013 MNF Executive Champion!

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                      • WindyCitySteel
                        Legend
                        • Nov 2011
                        • 15684

                        Originally posted by Northern_Blitz

                        Remember how "NFL ready" was the name of the game with Pickett?
                        Pickett was NFL ready, Mike Canada's offense is not, if you will.

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                        • Shawn
                          Legend
                          • Mar 2008
                          • 15131

                          Originally posted by TheRealTazz864
                          You should have caught me when I was living right down the street from Heinz Field... I used to walk to tailgates all the time... The GOOD tailgates would set up sofas and TV's right in Lot C... better view, I think.... beer didn't cost $5, either...
                          Well, if 864 was/is your area code we were probably neighbors at one point.
                          Trolls are people too.

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                          • TheRealTazz864
                            Pro Bowler
                            • Jun 2022
                            • 2163

                            Originally posted by Shawn
                            Well, if 864 was/is your area code we were probably neighbors at one point.
                            I believe in Pittsburgh, it was 412...

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                            • Shawn
                              Legend
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 15131

                              Originally posted by TheRealTazz864
                              I believe in Pittsburgh, it was 412...
                              Yes, I was referring to NW South Carolina. I have never lived in Pittsburgh.
                              Trolls are people too.

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