Pickett so far is just a baker Mayfield

[WindyCitySteel]

ok before we all get carried away...HOF QB Peyton Manning in his rookie year

IND	19	32	309	1	3	4	17	78	63.2	1	7	0	7	0	0	0	0

It's one game, and my response is "Exactly"

Brothervad

PS

Mr. Manning's first 3 games

2 TD's 8 Int's

First 4 games:
3 TD's 11 Int's

So before we go running around and say the sky is falling let's remember even the greats sometimes start off badly.

Brothervad

Salient points, brothervad. That team wasn't as bad as people remember, Marvin was in his 3rd season and Faulk was in his prime, catching 86 of Peyton's passes and running for 1300+ that year. It just took a while for things to click.

[The Man of Steel]

Realistically how many Steelers rookies have come in and played lights out as a rookie? It’s not many.

[Ghost]

Not writing him off,but Pickett has led the team to 2 touchdowns in 27 drives. It's not good. That last interception, he should have run for some yards and gotten out of bounds living time for a few more plays.

[NorthCoast]

My one footnote with KP is that he's badly hamstrung by an OC that doesn't seem to know how to put an offense together. How many times do we have to see NH run wide before they understand that isn't his strong suit. And look at the receiver routes. Three quarters of them are patterns where the receiver is at a dead stop to catch the ball. Where are the anticipation throws that KP is supposed to be good at? And Why do they continue to ignore half the field in the passing game? That 4th and 1 play that had the motion penalty was absolute silliness. Line up and move some bodies.Never seen an offense like this.

[Northern_Blitz]

Captain Analytics first in with the counting stats.

He's right they it hasn't been pretty so far.

We should try not-Canada at OC imo.

We've been dating this for ~3 years, but it should be hard to score fewer points than what we're doing now.

[Northern_Blitz]

ok before we all get carried away...HOF QB Peyton Manning in his rookie year

IND	19	32	309	1	3	4	17	78	63.2	1	7	0	7	0	0	0	0

It's one game, and my response is "Exactly"

Brothervad

PS

Mr. Manning's first 3 games

2 TD's 8 Int's

First 4 games:
3 TD's 11 Int's

So before we go running around and say the sky is falling let's remember even the greats sometimes start off badly.

Brothervad

I think this more or less the right way to look at it

Even though it's very unlikely for any QB to become P Manning. And there's a lot of survivorship bias looking at all the QBs with bad starts and saying "Manning had a bad start too".

We have to keep playing him and see how he develops.

[WindyCitySteel]

This is the same O we ran under Fichtner and the same we will run under Sullivan. It's Mike Tomlin's "possess the ball, don't turn it over" offense.

Surprised more don't see this.

[Oviedo]

Every team anoints their first round QB as The Guy. Last year's Can't Miss class looking rough right now.

The 2022 QB class was always known to be a down class and 2023 was evaluated as significantly better. That is why I had an issue taking KP in Round 1, but he is our guy so hoping for the best. If we get a Top 5 pick I think it is possible we do what Arizona did when they took Kyler Murray the year after they took Rosen. Wasn't Rosen also anointed as the most NFL ready QB in his draft class

[T.Ferguson]

I'm honestly a little surprised at all the negativity being thrown at Pickett, I thought he played great for the most part. He is a rookie playing in his what, third game and on the road? Here is what he is dealing with -

- Worst OC in football, Canada should be fired after last night.
- Offense can't run the ball with any consistency.
- Outside of Pickens, the Steeler WRs are playing like bums.
- Just like last season it looks like the offense doesn't even practice, Pickett brought up practice issues and some fans laughed it off or minimized what he said, lot of miscues and players not being on the same page like Claypool not correctly sitting in the zone, etc.
- Pickett has 6 INTs so far this season but that's misleading, Claypool fell down on the first INT last night, DJ doesn't even try to contest the last INT. I believe an earlier INT this season was a Hail Mary. He is a rookie that is basically getting virtually no help on offense right now.

[flippy]

Save us Kenny Jesus....

[Ernie]

Save us Kenny Jesus....

Folks who were screaming for KP after the 1st game seriously thought this would happen.
Folks who understand the game.. and the deficiencies surrounding this team... knew the odds were stacked against him.

[Oviedo]

Folks who were screaming for KP after the 1st game seriously thought this would happen.
Folks who understand the game.. and the deficiencies surrounding this team... knew the odds were stacked against him.

He's our horse...need to ride him but need to do a brutal eval of what he does performance wise. If we continue to try to blame all failures on everyone else, he is likely NOT the guy long term. I hope that's not the case because he seems like a good kid who wants to succeed. However, does anyone have the same feeling we had watching rookie Big Ben when we watch KP? I don't.

[feltdizz]

He's our horse...need to ride him but need to do a brutal eval of what he does performance wise. If we continue to try to blame all failures on everyone else, he is likely NOT the guy long term. I hope that's not the case because he seems like a good kid who wants to succeed. However, does anyone have the same feeling we had watching rookie Big Ben when we watch KP? I don't.

He isn’t Ben. Now, I did have that feeling before the last INT. I thought Kenny was about to lead us to a last second win.

No idea what he was thinking with that last pass. Trying to do too much. I think if he runs he has a chance to score or at least clock it for one more play.

[Chucktownsteeler]

He's a new QB, he will learn. Go back and look at other rookie QBs stats their first year. Ben was the exception, but he also came to a stacked team with great coaches.

Kenny will be fine, but we need a new OC and better WRs.

[Terrapin]

I think he played pretty well last night. A couple of bad throws, but the most important thing is he seems to have a really good command of the offense. Calm, poised, etc. Most of his throws are dead nuts accurate. Imagine what he could do if we had coaches that could actually scheme receivers open, and not just call jump balls down the sidelines?