2nd Chance QBs

[flippy]

Have any former first round QBs who have failed miserably with their first team ever gone on to resurrect their career and win a SuperBowl with another team after their original team gave up on them?

I'm not asking about a guy like Matthew Stafford who was clearly a talented QB on a bad team for years.

I'm talking about the guys that would be like Trubisky, Mariota, Winston, or any of the guys we're rumored to be interested in.

Seems there's a rumor that every former failed 1st round QB is on our list of potential targets. Has that ever worked for anyone?

Is it even worth considering these guys and paying them anything? Or should we be investing any money and picks that would go to these guys to improve the rest of the team?

[Chucktownsteeler]

They are very rare indeed and I am not sure why the Steelers want a bridge QB when the have MR and/ or Haskins on the relative cheap.

However to answer you question above Jim Plunkett comes to mind. He reserected his career nicely with the Raiders.

[The Man of Steel]

Jim Plunkett and Trent Dilfer are the first 2 QB’s that come to mind.

[flippy]

Good call on Plunkett and Dilfer.

Both ended up winning SuperBowls by landing in the perfect spot, but both were below average QBs in the NFL from what I remember.

Dilfer was in Baltimore for 1 season and their D dominated. I don't even think he had to throw the ball in the playoffs that year. He probably added some value, but I think anyone could have likely been plugged in there and been successful.

Plunkett at least was a SuperBowl MVP and did improve while with the Raiders. But he was mostly the same average QB on a much better team. To this day I think he's the only 2 time SuperBowl winning QB who isn't in the HOF. While I'm sure the Raiders fans love him, I'm not sure he was really that good. But I was young back then so who knows how well my memory is at this point.

What this tells me is it's worked for 2 guys over 40 years and the average QB had to land in the perfect spot. So the bigger question is can Pittsburgh be the perfect spot for someone?

Seems like we might be a long way off. Or we could be a couple FAs and draft picks away from building another 2000 Baltimore Ravens for a Trubisky, etc. But if we're the 2000 Baltimore Ravens, it seems MR would work just as well.

The more I think about these re-treads, I think it has to be a guy like a Trubisky if we try to go this route or someone that's a little mobile with a good arm that's able to look and make plays downfield 1st vs running.

All that said, if we sign one of these re-treads, I'm gonna believe in him, but it just seems like an impossible shot.

[WindyCitySteel]

Jim Plunkett and Trent Dilfer are the first 2 QB’s that come to mind.

Dilfer always sucked, he just landed on a team with an amazing defense for a year.

Steve Young struggled on a bad Tampa team for two years before going to SF. Favre never got a shot in Atlanta, maybe Jordan Love is a comp for that path.

Tommy Maddox had a moment in the sun in 2002. Rich Gannon bounced around and then it clicked in Oakland.

[Chucktownsteeler]

I would tend to argue MR and/ or Haskins can offer just as much as a Winston, Bridgewater, or even a Taylor on the relative cheap as a bridge QB.

For a bridge QB you are looking at what a year or 2 until your rookie gets up to speed? I don't see the logic in burning draft picks and/ or cap space to achieve this.

Minshew, Trubinsky, and/ or Mariota is a different story, then you don't pick a QB high in the draft.

[The Man of Steel]

(Add) Len Dawson and Doug Williams. Both were first rounders surprisingly.

[Chucktownsteeler]

Perhaps even Johnny Unitas.

[Chucktownsteeler]

I'm breaking the rules a bit here, but perhaps even Terry Bradshaw could be considered. Although he didn't change teams (thankfully) his first 3 to 4 years were very dismal. If he played in this day and age, he would have had thousands of calls from this board alone to be cut.

[Chucktownsteeler]

Very few people know but Brett Favre languished on the bench a few in Atlanta before going to G.B. The rest is history.

[Captain Lemming]

I would tend to argue MR and/ or Haskins can offer just as much as a Winston, Bridgewater, or even a Taylor on the relative cheap as a bridge QB.

For a bridge QB you are looking at what a year or 2 until your rookie gets up to speed? I don't see the logic in burning draft picks and/ or cap space to achieve this.

Minshew, Trubinsky, and/ or Mariota is a different story, then you don't pick a QB high in the draft.

I see Winston as easily being in your 2nd category.

[T.Ferguson]

I'm breaking the rules a bit here, but perhaps even Terry Bradshaw could be considered. Although he didn't change teams (thankfully) his first 3 to 4 years were very dismal. If he played in this day and age, he would have had thousands of calls from this board alone to be cut.

I was watching the new doc about Terry and I didn't know that he was sacked for a safety in 3 straight games lol. To be fair though I don't think that team was very good at first which probably had something to do with his struggles. But yeah he definitely turned it around.

[Captain Lemming]

Have any former first round QBs who have failed miserably with their first team ever gone on to resurrect their career and win a SuperBowl with another team after their original team gave up on them?

I'm not asking about a guy like Matthew Stafford who was clearly a talented QB on a bad team for years.

I'm talking about the guys that would be like Trubisky, Mariota, Winston, or any of the guys we're rumored to be interested in.

Seems there's a rumor that every former failed 1st round QB is on our list of potential targets. Has that ever worked for anyone?

Is it even worth considering these guys and paying them anything? Or should we be investing any money and picks that would go to these guys to improve the rest of the team?

As the thread shows, there was a time when it was not shocking that it worked.

But how many since QB salaries have exploded?

I think THAT is the limiting factor.

[flippy]

Dilfer always sucked, he just landed on a team with an amazing defense for a year.

Steve Young struggled on a bad Tampa team for two years before going to SF. Favre never got a shot in Atlanta, maybe Jordan Love is a comp for that path.

Tommy Maddox had a moment in the sun in 2002. Rich Gannon bounced around and then it clicked in Oakland.

I'd count Steve Young as a success story. Good call. Favre is just a guy that never got a chance with his first team and I don't see us looking at anyone like that.

[NorthCoast]

Watch out for Dwayne Haskins. I hear he was on a bad WFT and just needed his chance.