Steelers considered a top trade destination for Kirk Cousins

[Steel Maniac]

I think them Steelers value their own FAs over somebody else's FAs. That's why they rarely partake in the first round of FA. They wait for the second tier to shake and determine if someone is there that can help. It's just their model and has been for quite some time, sign their own, fill in holes with 2nd tier FAs and draft.

Pappy

But…. Will this still be the way they operate after Colbert leaves?

[papillon]

But…. Will this still be the way they operate after Colbert leaves?

That's a damn good question. Hard to tell the influence that Art Rooney has on the team, he isn't as known a commodity as Dan Rooney was when he was running the organization. At least for this year, I don't see them jumping into the FA frenzy for the top FAs, but I wouldn't be surprised to see them claim 1 or 2 good to very good FAs after the initial onslaught of signings. I forgot about Colbert retiring after the draft. If there is a change in philosophy I think it will be in next year's draft and not this year's.

Pappy

[brothervad]

so I am probably in the minority here, but I am pulling for MR.

Regardless, anyone who wins be it MR, Haskins or some journeyman - it's gonna be a tough road to travel. It is always an impossible task to replace a HOF'er QB. Even Steve Young had to get the "monkey of his back" in 95 in replacing Joe Montana. you could tell it was a lot of pressure on him just by how he acted in that Super Bowl win. He handled it extremely well obviously...but I think that is the exception rather the rule.

Haskins or MR will really need to mature quickly as either one of them will be the instant response when the other one screws up "We need to give (QB2) a chance, QB1 sucks!" will be heard constantly on airwaves, social media, etc., etc.

I will not distinctly say that either of the two has an edge on the other 1, however, I do think even the "blinded by being a buckeye" gang has stated that Haskins requires maturation in order to succeed. I think that also applies to MR, however, I do think next season is gonna be a pressure cooker and hope that one or both of them are able to handle it.

Btw, not sure Cousins would be able to handle it either. Just remember the 80's Boo Malone, Stoudt, Woodley, Brister, Campbell, and Steve Bono. From 83 - 89 there was no single starter for a whole season. Now to be fair, that may be due to injury not only suckitude...but a lot of it was suckitude. And I really don't see a mature leader out of any of those names listed.

Steelers fans are about to embark on interesting times...

Brothervad

[NorthCoast]

so I am probably in the minority here, but I am pulling for MR.

Regardless, anyone who wins be it MR, Haskins or some journeyman - it's gonna be a tough road to travel. It is always an impossible task to replace a HOF'er QB. Even Steve Young had to get the "monkey of his back" in 95 in replacing Joe Montana. you could tell it was a lot of pressure on him just by how he acted in that Super Bowl win. He handled it extremely well obviously...but I think that is the exception rather the rule.

Haskins or MR will really need to mature quickly as either one of them will be the instant response when the other one screws up "We need to give (QB2) a chance, QB1 sucks!" will be heard constantly on airwaves, social media, etc., etc.

I will not distinctly say that either of the two has an edge on the other 1, however, I do think even the "blinded by being a buckeye" gang has stated that Haskins requires maturation in order to succeed. I think that also applies to MR, however, I do think next season is gonna be a pressure cooker and hope that one or both of them are able to handle it.

Btw, not sure Cousins would be able to handle it either. Just remember the 80's Boo Malone, Stoudt, Woodley, Brister, Campbell, and Steve Bono. From 83 - 89 there was no single starter for a whole season. Now to be fair, that may be due to injury not only suckitude...but a lot of it was suckitude. And I really don't see a mature leader out of any of those names listed.

Steelers fans are about to embark on interesting times...

Brothervad

In some ways MR is going into a great situation; a) the HOF QB played like dookie last season so it won't take much to look better, b) no pressure on him to be the man since most people have very low expectations for him, c) he has nothing to lose other than a starting spot, d) fans are already looking for the OC's head, Rudolph can blame him if the offense is a fail, e) If he doesn't cut it as the starter I expect he could easily be a backup for some team.

[SteelBucks]

https://torotimes.com/2022/01/20/deshaun-watson-trade-idea-unlikely/?utm_campaign=apple-news&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=apple-news

For those wondering what a Watson trade would look like. Crazy…..

[Steeler Mafia]

STEELERS GET
QB DESHAUN WATSON
2022, 23 2ND ROUND PICKS




TEXANS GET
2022-23 1ST AND 2ND ROUND PICKS
2024 2ND ROUND PICK
LB/DE T.J. WATT

I don't see this as a complete truth. If, in reality, the Texans are looking to get this much in return for Watson, he will continue to rot away on their roster and eat large chunks of their salary cap. No other team in the league will want to entertain this type of deal, especially with the legal issues still hanging out there. In time, I am certain that they will feel the pressure and want to deal him for much less.

Unfortunately, the Steelers don't have that kind of time.

[steeler_george]

It is not ging to happen...

[Chucktownsteeler]

Ken O’Brien was actually a good QB but yes, his claim to fame was being selected over Marino.

I think O'Brien was one of the few QBs that had good success against Marino. I think he had a winning record.

[Northern_Blitz]

STEELERS GET
QB DESHAUN WATSON
2022, 23 2ND ROUND PICKS




TEXANS GET
2022-23 1ST AND 2ND ROUND PICKS
2024 2ND ROUND PICK
LB/DE T.J. WATT

I don't see this as a complete truth. If, in reality, the Texans are looking to get this much in return for Watson, he will continue to rot away on their roster and eat large chunks of their salary cap. No other team in the league will want to entertain this type of deal, especially with the legal issues still hanging out there. In time, I am certain that they will feel the pressure and want to deal him for much less.

Unfortunately, the Steelers don't have that kind of time.

They were looking for 4 x 1sts before the sexual assault allegations I think.

[whatever]

In some ways MR is going into a great situation; a) the HOF QB played like dookie last season so it won't take much to look better, b) no pressure on him to be the man since most people have very low expectations for him, c) he has nothing to lose other than a starting spot, d) fans are already looking for the OC's head, Rudolph can blame him if the offense is a fail, e) If he doesn't cut it as the starter I expect he could easily be a backup for some team.

Agreed, except I do see one ‘pressure’.
The pressure to perform well enough to get a big payday.

[NorthCoast]

It is not ging to happen...

.....nor should it. SNR put it exactly right. If you think you are only a QB away from making the SB then maybe you consider a high priced FA. But anyone that watched the Steelers play this season should know they are not a QB away from a SB. How many posts in here about being in rebuild mode? That says a lot right there.

[whisper]

Completely agree.

Kirk Cousins = Hot Garbage

The main thing Kirk has become known for is getting the most $ out of limited talent. He's not special; he's the definition of average. He will get you "flirting" with .500 and just making the playoffs, if you're lucky. Why pay so much for so little? You would need a killer team around him to even flirt with the postseason, and once you play a real team with a legit franchise QB, you lose.

The worst QB left on the 8 teams remaining is Jimmy G, and most of his critics focus on his injury record, not on his play. Brady, Rogers, Allen, Burrow, Jimmy G., Stafford, Mahomes and Tannehill, bringing up the rear. You do not want your QB to be Cousins when pursuing a championship, unless you want to revisit the O'Donnell, Tomczak, Kordell, Malone, Brister years, which, by the way, had some of the best D's and rushing games in the NF, but nary a SB win. Cousins is mucho $, without the mucho talent. No thanks.

[SteelerOfDeVille]

I think them Steelers value their own FAs over somebody else's FAs. That's why they rarely partake in the first round of FA. They wait for the second tier to shake and determine if someone is there that can help. It's just their model and has been for quite some time, sign their own, fill in holes with 2nd tier FAs and draft.

I think it's more about getting into a bidding war when people want to overpay for the 1st round of FA... It's how guys like Kirk Cousins get 3 year, $84m contracts.

[Starlifter]

yeah. we tried this once before. two words for y'all.

Kent Graham.

no thanks.

[SteelerOfDeVille]

yeah. we tried this once before. two words for y'all.

Kent Graham.

no thanks.

Starlifter with the gut-punch.... ouch! LOL