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  • Northern_Blitz
    Legend
    • Dec 2008
    • 24373

    #16
    The team can't score points.

    Not good for winning games against good teams.

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    • Northern_Blitz
      Legend
      • Dec 2008
      • 24373

      #17
      Originally posted by JTP53609
      I think trubisky would be a decent pick up, young, decent upside and showed some flashes in Chicago where offenses are consistently vanilla and weak
      I think it's better to suck and then pick high.

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      • hawaiiansteel
        Legend
        • May 2008
        • 35648

        #18
        Originally posted by Northern_Blitz
        I think it's better to suck and then pick high.
        so let Rudolph play next year then?

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        • brothervad
          Pro Bowler
          • Dec 2008
          • 1914

          #19
          Regardless where you stand on talent level...attrition is removing some of those "keepers".

          Now MRI on hip & knee for TJ...things are starting to look bad.

          It's hard to know how things will play out the remainder of the schedule...but sufficed to say, it is the harder part of their schedule.

          If not for the mere fact that they are on the road for 5 of those 8 games.

          Some D players will need to pick up the gaps. And frankly they desperately need Tuitt back and soon.

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          • Northern_Blitz
            Legend
            • Dec 2008
            • 24373

            #20
            Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
            so let Rudolph play next year then?
            Yep.

            Rudolph and Haskins

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            • NorthCoast
              Legend
              • Sep 2008
              • 26636

              #21
              Funny how few of these sad sack posters were around during the 3 game win streak. Beating teams better than the Lions. Now all of a sudden they have no talent and no coaching....

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              • Terrapin
                Pro Bowler
                • Sep 2017
                • 2081

                #22
                Originally posted by NorthCoast
                Funny how few of these sad sack posters were around during the 3 game win streak. Beating teams better than the Lions. Now all of a sudden they have no talent and no coaching....
                Yeah they beat some real powerhouses.

                Maybe you didn't hear Schobert's post game comments about how they need to 'start taking practice seriously.' Heyward said something similar last year. That my friend is 1000% on coaching, specifically the head coach. Christ I tell my youth team every week 'you play how you practice'. Tomlin's teams are constantly unprepared, and now we know exactly why.

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                • Terrapin
                  Pro Bowler
                  • Sep 2017
                  • 2081

                  #23
                  Originally posted by NorthCoast
                  Funny how few of these sad sack posters were around during the 3 game win streak. Beating teams better than the Lions. Now all of a sudden they have no talent and no coaching....
                  And ya, they beat a Seattle team without Russel Wilson. The same team that was just shut out today, with Wilson. The Browns, who are imploding (as usual), and the hapless Bears (thanks to the Refs). Oh and the mighty Broncos. Plan the parade. Not to mention 3 of those were at home too

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                  • NorthCoast
                    Legend
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 26636

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Terrapin
                    And ya, they beat a Seattle team without Russel Wilson. The same team that was just shut out today, with Wilson. The Browns, who are imploding (as usual), and the hapless Bears (thanks to the Refs). Oh and the mighty Broncos. Plan the parade. Not to mention 3 of those were at home too
                    So you discount the opponent's team talent because the Steelers won but not the Steelers playing with backups? Gotcha.

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                    • Terrapin
                      Pro Bowler
                      • Sep 2017
                      • 2081

                      #25
                      Originally posted by NorthCoast
                      So you discount the opponent's team talent because the Steelers won but not the Steelers playing with backups? Gotcha.
                      Yes, I think traveling across the country and losing with a backup QB is a little less pathetic than managing a tie at home with a backup QB to an 0-8 team

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                      • feltdizz
                        Legend
                        • May 2008
                        • 27532

                        #26
                        Originally posted by NorthCoast
                        Funny how few of these sad sack posters were around during the 3 game win streak. Beating teams better than the Lions. Now all of a sudden they have no talent and no coaching....
                        the board was humming today..

                        they were celebrating a loss in the second quarter.
                        Steelers 27
                        Rats 16

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                        • NJ-STEELER
                          Legend
                          • May 2008
                          • 12563

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Terrapin
                          Yeah they beat some real powerhouses.

                          Maybe you didn't hear Schobert's post game comments about how they need to 'start taking practice seriously.' Heyward said something similar last year. That my friend is 1000% on coaching, specifically the head coach. Christ I tell my youth team every week 'you play how you practice'. Tomlin's teams are constantly unprepared, and now we know exactly why.

                          unbuttoned was the term colin coward used years ago describing tomlin's teams

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                          • NorthCoast
                            Legend
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 26636

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Terrapin
                            Yes, I think traveling across the country and losing with a backup QB is a little less pathetic than managing a tie at home with a backup QB to an 0-8 team
                            Good. Then when the Steelers travel to the west coast next week you won't have complaints should they struggle in the game.

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                            • NJ-STEELER
                              Legend
                              • May 2008
                              • 12563

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Steel Maniac
                              Tell me how’d you use our first 3 draft picks?
                              i think we're at a cross roads here. I got on this team management for spending so many high assets on defense (before this year) when its clear the league is not heading that way.
                              did you see the roughing call on the lions QB in overtime? that would have led to a loss to any other team that isn't inept

                              Defenses are Neutered in today's game

                              look at the top teams in offense this year and what's their record.

                              1st in offense. dallas. 7-2
                              cooper, zeke, their LT, all top 10 draft picks. they added lamb to that list just last year. their Ol is top notch

                              we've got a top 10 & 11 guys on defense they can't even seem to tackle

                              2nd in offense ravens 6-3
                              3rd - tampa 6-3
                              4th buffalo 6-3
                              5th rams 7-2

                              cardnials 9th (2 games without murray) 8-2
                              green bay with rodgers/adams is 8-2

                              look at the the recent SB wnners. tampa, KC etc.
                              go in deeper and look at the final 4 each year and you'll see the same. dominated by great offensive teams

                              i think its pretty clear to see what a team has to do to become a winner nowadays and i'm not sure the current management is geared towards this thinking. that's why I like to see them all gone.
                              the days of dominating defenses winning titles is over

                              as for first 3 picks I would have to see who is available.
                              the obvious biggest needs are QB and OL
                              Last edited by NJ-STEELER; 11-14-2021, 10:48 PM.

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                              • NorthCoast
                                Legend
                                • Sep 2008
                                • 26636

                                #30
                                Originally posted by NJ-STEELER
                                i think we're at a cross roads here. I got on this team management for spending so many high assets on defense (before this year) when its clear the league is not heading that way.
                                did you see the roughing call on the lions QB in overtime? that would have led to a loss to any other team that isn't inept

                                look at the top teams in offense this year and what's their record.

                                1st in offense. dallas. 7-2
                                cooper, zeke, their LT, all top 10 draft picks. they added lamb to that list just last year. their Ol is top notch

                                we've got a top 10 & 11 guys on defense they can't even seem to tackle

                                2nd in offense ravens 6-3
                                3rd - tampa 6-3
                                4th buffalo 6-3
                                5th rams 7-2

                                cardnials 9th (2 games without murray) 8-2
                                green bay with rodgers/adams is 8-2

                                look at the the recent SB wnners. tampa, KC etc.
                                go in deeper and look at the final 4 each year and you'll see the same. dominated by great offensive teams

                                i think its pretty clear to see what a team has to do to become a winner nowadays and i'm not sure the current management is geared towards this thinking. that's why I like to see them all gone.
                                the days of dominating defenses winning titles is over

                                as for first 3 picks I would have to see who is available.
                                the obvious biggest needs are QB and OL
                                Dallas spent their first SIX picks in this year's draft on defense. AZ spent 4 of first 5 picks on defense. BUF spent their first two picks on DL.

                                But continue your narrative...

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