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  • Chucktownsteeler
    Legend
    • May 2008
    • 6849

    #31
    Truth be told, in an offensive biased league this team can’t score points with or without Ben. Same with or without Fitchburg or Canada.

    I don’t have the answer, just my observation.
    Help me find my post proving I am a Yinzer!

    I will tip my hat to Tomlin if he has a winning record and the team makes the play-offs in the upcoming season.

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    • NorthCoast
      Legend
      • Sep 2008
      • 26636

      #32
      Originally posted by Chucktownsteeler
      Truth be told, in an offensive biased league this team can’t score points with or without Ben. Same with or without Fitchburg or Canada.

      I don’t have the answer, just my observation.
      Sounds cliche but games are won and lost in the trenches for the most part. The trenches on the OL haven't been good enough and the trenches on the DL are a shell of what was in place at the start of the season.

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      • papillon
        Legend
        • Mar 2008
        • 11340

        #33
        Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
        it will be interesting to see if we give Minkah a big contract extension.
        I hope not with the Steelers, spend the money elsewhere.

        Pappy
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        The 2025 Pittsburgh Steeler draft

        1.21 - Derrick Harmon, DT, Oregon - Nick Emmanwori, S, S. Carolina
        3.83 - Kaleb Johnson, RB, Iowa - DJ Giddens, RB, Kans St
        3.123 - Will Howard, QB, OSU
        4.156 - JJ Pegues, DT, Ole Miss
        5.185 - Clay Webb, OG, Jack St
        7.229 - Tyrion Ingram-Dawkins, DT, Georgia

        "Football is a physical game, well, it used to be anyways" - Mel Blount

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        • papillon
          Legend
          • Mar 2008
          • 11340

          #34
          Originally posted by Northern_Blitz
          I think it's better to suck and then pick high.
          Well, you might get your wish pending the severity of Haden's and Watt's injuries.

          Pappy
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          The 2025 Pittsburgh Steeler draft

          1.21 - Derrick Harmon, DT, Oregon - Nick Emmanwori, S, S. Carolina
          3.83 - Kaleb Johnson, RB, Iowa - DJ Giddens, RB, Kans St
          3.123 - Will Howard, QB, OSU
          4.156 - JJ Pegues, DT, Ole Miss
          5.185 - Clay Webb, OG, Jack St
          7.229 - Tyrion Ingram-Dawkins, DT, Georgia

          "Football is a physical game, well, it used to be anyways" - Mel Blount

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          • Steel Maniac
            Banned
            • Apr 2017
            • 19472

            #35
            Originally posted by Terrapin
            Assuming we don't bring in Rodgers?
            Kenny Pickett
            Oline
            BPA. Preferably Oline or WR

            If we bring in Rodgers;
            Oline
            Oline
            BPA, preferably WR or ILB
            Hmmmm, Rodgers will be gone unless they make the Super Bowl

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            • Steel Maniac
              Banned
              • Apr 2017
              • 19472

              #36
              Originally posted by JTP53609
              I think trubisky would be a decent pick up, young, decent upside and showed some flashes in Chicago where offenses are consistently vanilla and weak
              He’s better than MR.

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              • NJ-STEELER
                Legend
                • May 2008
                • 12563

                #37
                Originally posted by NorthCoast
                Dallas spent their first SIX picks in this year's draft on defense. AZ spent 4 of first 5 picks on defense. BUF spent their first two picks on DL.

                But continue your narrative...
                huh?

                how many top 2 rounds picks were included in those 6 picks?
                they're defense is ranked in the middle of the pack and they're 7-2

                what narrative you schmuck
                open your friggin eyes and watch some games.

                offense is the way to go now and the foreseeable future

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                • Steel Maniac
                  Banned
                  • Apr 2017
                  • 19472

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Northern_Blitz
                  Yep.

                  Rudolph and Haskins
                  You want to lock up a top 3 pick in the draft huh?

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                  • Steel Maniac
                    Banned
                    • Apr 2017
                    • 19472

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Terrapin
                    Yeah they beat some real powerhouses.

                    Maybe you didn't hear Schobert's post game comments about how they need to 'start taking practice seriously.' Heyward said something similar last year. That my friend is 1000% on coaching, specifically the head coach. Christ I tell my youth team every week 'you play how you practice'. Tomlin's teams are constantly unprepared, and now we know exactly why.
                    Boom …. Boom…. Boom!!!

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                    • Steel Maniac
                      Banned
                      • Apr 2017
                      • 19472

                      #40
                      Originally posted by NJ-STEELER
                      i think we're at a cross roads here. I got on this team management for spending so many high assets on defense (before this year) when its clear the league is not heading that way.
                      did you see the roughing call on the lions QB in overtime? that would have led to a loss to any other team that isn't inept

                      look at the top teams in offense this year and what's their record.

                      1st in offense. dallas. 7-2
                      cooper, zeke, their LT, all top 10 draft picks. they added lamb to that list just last year. their Ol is top notch

                      we've got a top 10 & 11 guys on defense they can't even seem to tackle

                      2nd in offense ravens 6-3
                      3rd - tampa 6-3
                      4th buffalo 6-3
                      5th rams 7-2

                      cardnials 9th (2 games without murray) 8-2
                      green bay with rodgers/adams is 8-2

                      look at the the recent SB wnners. tampa, KC etc.
                      go in deeper and look at the final 4 each year and you'll see the same. dominated by great offensive teams

                      i think its pretty clear to see what a team has to do to become a winner nowadays and i'm not sure the current management is geared towards this thinking. that's why I like to see them all gone.
                      the days of dominating defenses winning titles is over

                      as for first 3 picks I would have to see who is available.
                      the obvious biggest needs are QB and OL
                      Good food for thought. Thanks.

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                      • Steel Maniac
                        Banned
                        • Apr 2017
                        • 19472

                        #41
                        Originally posted by Terrapin
                        And ya, they beat a Seattle team without Russel Wilson. The same team that was just shut out today, with Wilson. The Browns, who are imploding (as usual), and the hapless Bears (thanks to the Refs). Oh and the mighty Broncos. Plan the parade. Not to mention 3 of those were at home too
                        Exactly… than they start to make claims on how good the O-line is playing.

                        You have to take in all factors and look at your team objectively and not blindly jock your team just because their your team.

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                        • hawaiiansteel
                          Legend
                          • May 2008
                          • 35648

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Steel Maniac
                          Boom …. Boom…. Boom!!!
                          what are you, like 12 years old?

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                          • NorthCoast
                            Legend
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 26636

                            #43
                            Originally posted by NJ-STEELER
                            huh?

                            how many top 2 rounds picks were included in those 6 picks?
                            they're defense is ranked in the middle of the pack and they're 7-2

                            what narrative you schmuck
                            open your friggin eyes and watch some games.

                            offense is the way to go now and the foreseeable future
                            That would be five players on defense selected in the first two rounds.

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                            • NorthCoast
                              Legend
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 26636

                              #44
                              Originally posted by Steel Maniac
                              Exactly… than they start to make claims on how good the O-line is playing.

                              You have to take in all factors and look at your team objectively and not blindly jock your team just because their your team.
                              I think you need to use some of that objectivity on your opinion of LJ.

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                              • Terrapin
                                Pro Bowler
                                • Sep 2017
                                • 2081

                                #45
                                Originally posted by NorthCoast
                                Dallas spent their first SIX picks in this year's draft on defense. AZ spent 4 of first 5 picks on defense. BUF spent their first two picks on DL.

                                But continue your narrative...
                                It's obvious that you either have no idea about football, or are Mike Tomlin himself. Possibly both.

                                Dallas isn't going to draft a QB, RB, WR, etc when they already have Dak, Zeke, Pollard, Cooper, Lamb, etc.

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