Colbert's Draft Report Card Last 4 Yrs

[hawaiiansteel]

But, but, but..... that doesn’t help the agenda that cowher didn’t want him.

Cowher and Colbert wanted to pick Shawn Andrews.

[Northern_Blitz]

christ man, that's exactly what i've been saying. the whole team stunk up the joint.

pouncey gifting them 7. 7-0
next series ben INT putting them at midfield,
the defense letting landry look like jerry rice going untouched into the end zone 14-0
DJ lets a ball go right thru his hands for another INT 21-0
the defense letting the browns RBs run right down their throat with 2-3 OL missing 28-7 - 35-7

yes, at 28-7 the game is over and judging QB play (or RB,OL, Defensive play or anything after that) is skewed because it is a blow out

Everyone has been saying that.

But there is one guy who gets paid the most and has the biggest impact on the game. And he played terribly anytime we were within 2 scores.

[Northern_Blitz]

what's made up?

he was dismissing a team that already beat them by mentioning a future playoff match up with new england?

jax certainly played like they were pissed off.

and tomlin looked like he had his squad overlooking them and focusing on the pats. no?

And qualified it twice by saying they needed to do "what they were supposed to do" (win games) to play the pats when it matters (in the playoffs).

I think the "made up" part is that many people imply that this interview happened during the playoff bye week or just before the Jags game.

[Joel Buchsbaum]

Here's the actual quote from Dan Rooney's autobiography:

So he brought up Ben and those who do the picking agreed with him ( Colbert and Cowher ) I'm sure 50 names are brought up during the draft process. If Cowher wasn't on board with the pick, it does not happen.

[Joel Buchsbaum]

Cowher and Colbert wanted to pick Shawn Andrews.

Andrews was a good player. They did not pick him, and changed minds, obviously. Dan Rooney DID NOT draft Ben. He made a suggesting to look at him closer. Remember back then a small school QB with Ben's size and skills was a bit of an unknown. I still say Colbert does the picking and Cowher had input.

[Oviedo]

Here's the actual quote from Dan Rooney's autobiography:

Must suck to have someone knowledgeable present a fact that dispels someone's fantasies

[feltdizz]

Andrews was a good player. They did not pick him, and changed minds, obviously. Dan Rooney DID NOT draft Ben. He made a suggesting to look at him closer. Remember back then a small school QB with Ben's size and skills was a bit of an unknown. I still say Colbert does the picking and Cowher had input.

Any way you spin it, Rooney forced them to pick Ben. Colbert is the GM so he “picks” the guy. Not Cowher.

[Joel Buchsbaum]

Any way you spin it, Rooney forced them to pick Ben. Colbert is the GM so he “picks” the guy. Not Cowher.

Anyway you spin it Rooney never said he forced the pick and let's be mindful this is his book and his version. Either way, Colbert picked him IMO, with input from Cohwer.

What else is there to say?

[feltdizz]

Anyway you spin it Rooney never said he forced the pick and let's be mindful this is his book and his version. Either way, Colbert picked him IMO, with input from Cohwer.

What else is there to say?

Rooney said all there is to say. Guess what? Cowher os gone and the Rooney’s still own the team.

You speak of Rooney like he some scorned OC who was fired by Cowher. The Rooney’s have never tried to steal the show or throw dirt on their coaches.

Rooney simply let us know Cowher and Colbert were ready to take Andrews because Cowher had it bad for Phillip Rivers.

Thankfully Rooney stepped in. That’s the story and you can try to spin it if you like but you are the only one dying on that hill.

[whatever]

Man, too bad Rooney didn’t force Tomlin not to draft hood, Mendenhall, Jones, burns and edwards.

[NorthCoast]

I think some people are understating the depth of regret of the Rooneys on by-passing Dan Marino. That regret has been passed on to multiple generations of the family.

Chuck Noll talks about it in his biography:

In the background, the Chief was circumspect. He’d met Marino and was extremely fond of him. More than once that weekend, Art Sr. would sidle up to Artie [son, Art Rooney, Jr.] and say, “You took the wrong guy.”

Fast forward twenty years and you hear the same thing from Dan.

[feltdizz]

Man, too bad Rooney didn’t force Tomlin not to draft hood, Mendenhall, Jones, burns and edwards.

If Tomlin was the GM I would agree

Should we also blame Tomlin for how much we pay players too?

We all know drafting is done as a franchise and Tomlin isn’t the one who makes the final decision.

[whatever]

If Tomlin was the GM I would agree

Should we also blame Tomlin for how much we pay players too?

We all know drafting is done as a franchise and Tomlin isn’t the one who makes the final decision.

So did the steelers just start doing it this way since Tomlin was given the job?

[hawaiiansteel]

Colbert and Cowher were going to draft Shawn Andrews,

remembering the mistake we made passing on Dan Marino, Rooney stepped in and convinced everyone to draft Ben instead.

not sure why this is such a hard thing to grasp for some.

[NorthCoast]

So did the steelers just start doing it this way since Tomlin was given the job?

In short, no. It's not well-known but Chuck Noll didn't want Franco Harris back in the day. He wanted Robert Newhouse. Fortunately, A. Rooney overruled and selected Franco Harris.... and the rest is history.