Art Rooney Says Mike Tomlin Is The Steelers’ Coach Of The Future

[feltdizz]

Agreed. Cowher was the better coach, and basically handed off a super bowl team to Tomlin.

On Dan Rooney, I think fans really underestimated his worth. I certainly did. Maybe he did recommend Ben to Cowher, but if Cowher was not on board with this type of stragetic pick, Ben would have played elsewhere.

recommend?

He was the owner, he overruled Cowher.. lol.

[hawaiiansteel]

Cowher was clearly a superior coach then Tomlin. Not saying he was perfect but better than what we’ve got. He knew how to build a team ; but he did need Mr. Rooney to force Ben on him. But he got to numerous AFC championship games without a legit QB. Very impressive.

that's hilarious seeing you sing Cowher's praises.

you would have lost your mind watching Cowher go 14 years without winning a Super Bowl.

and you would have had a sig lamenting how Cowher couldn't win the big game and whining how we will never win a Super Bowl as long as Cowher was our head coach.

[Northern_Blitz]

that's hilarious seeing you sing Cowher's praises.

you would have lost your mind watching Cowher go 14 years without winning a Super Bowl.

and you would have had a sig lamenting how Cowher couldn't win the big game and whining how we will never win a Super Bowl as long as Cowher was our head coach.

There were a ton of posters that HATED Cowher at the Trib because he could "never win the the playoffs". This was especially true with some great teams that had some great "Noll's players" like Woodson, Lloyd, Lake, Dawson (I think they were all pre-Cowher).

And his teams were generally higher ranked after the regular season than Tomlin's (maybe because he wasn't competing against Brady's Pats for too long?).

He didn't have great QB play (except O'Donnell's year), but rushing offense was way more important then than it is now.

Cowher's philosophy was to have great D and great rushing game. The salary cap meant that he had to sacrifice QB play to get that. I think that's ultimately why he didn't want Ben.

He knew that having a very good QB meant getting worse everywhere else (which was ultimately the case).

He was a great coach. But so is Tomlin. They have very similar levels of success (just like S. Peyton who is another good comparable for Tomlin).

[Steel Maniac]

Agreed. Cowher was the better coach, and basically handed off a super bowl team to Tomlin.

On Dan Rooney, I think fans really underestimated his worth. I certainly did. Maybe he did recommend Ben to Cowher, but if Cowher was not on board with this type of stragetic pick, Ben would have played elsewhere.

Thanks Joel and whatever ; I’m glad fans are finally coming around to what I’ve been saying for years. As
we go forward , more and more fans will come around.

[hawaiiansteel]

There were a ton of posters that HATED Cowher at the Trib because he could "never win the the playoffs". This was especially true with some great teams that had some great "Noll's players" like Woodson, Lloyd, Lake, Dawson (I think they were all pre-Cowher).

I wish I had access to all posts on the old Trib forum back when fans were calling for Cowher's head for not being able to win "the big game."

I guarantee many of them are the same ones holding Cowher's legacy up to throw shade at Tomlin.

[whatever]

Thanks Joel and whatever ; I’m glad fans are finally coming around to what I’ve been saying for years. As
we go forward , more and more fans will come around.

Those fans won’t ever come around for obvious reasons.

[Northern_Blitz]

Those fans won’t ever come around for obvious reasons.

Because they believe QB play is more important than coaching (for good and bad results)?

[whatever]

Because they believe QB play is more important than coaching (for good and bad results)?

No.
If they believed qb play was more important everybody would agree cowhers is superior,

[hawaiiansteel]

No.
If they believed qb play was more important everybody would agree cowhers is superior,

why does one have to be superior over the other?

[Northern_Blitz]

No.
If they believed qb play was more important everybody would agree cowhers is superior,

I think they are comparable.

Just Cowher basically rode out on a win so he is looked at more favorably. Most don't see to remember his last year anyway.

[whatever]

I think they are comparable.

Just Cowher basically rode out on a win so he is looked at more favorably. Most don't see to remember his last year anyway.

For a guy that says qb is so important, why say they are comparable?
No way cowhers qbs equal Tomlins.

[Steel Maniac]

For a guy that says qb is so important, why say they are comparable?
No way cowhers qbs equal Tomlins.

Cowher had Ben ( franchise QB) the last 3 years of his tenure. Tomlin had Ben his entire tenure. Cowher did more with less than Tomlin. Tomlin isn’t in Cowher’s zip code as far a being a good coach. If Cowher would have had Ben his entire tenure like Tomlin has, we’d have at least two more super bowl victories.

[Northern_Blitz]

For a guy that says qb is so important, why say they are comparable?
No way cowhers qbs equal Tomlins.

I'd say that I think QB / cap hit is very important. So they had different challenges to overcome.

And the game wasn't the same for most of Cowher's years. And Bill wasn't competing against BB and TB his whole career.

The rule changes continue to make QB more important (and RB less important).

But ultimately their accomplishments are similar.

I don't think it's unreasonable to say Cowher is better.

I also don't think it's unreasonable to say Tomlin is better.

I do think it's unreasonable to think the gap is large between them.

To me they are in the same tier. Just like I think S Payton is in the same tier.

[feltdizz]

If SB’s are all that matter there is no way Cowher is better than Tomlin. Its statistically impossible.. lmao.

[feltdizz]

Cowher had Ben ( franchise QB) the last 3 years of his tenure. Tomlin had Ben his entire tenure. Cowher did more with less than Tomlin. Tomlin isn’t in Cowher’s zip code as far a being a good coach. If Cowher would have had Ben his entire tenure like Tomlin has, we’d have at least two more super bowl victories.

what more did Cowher do with Ben? He only made 1 SB with Ben.

Are you really celebrating a .500 season and a horrible loss to the Pats in a hime AFCCG? Remember, we needed 2 missed field goals to beat the Jets in OT the prior week.

That’s unacceptable.

Seriously, during that Jets playoff game fans were cursing Bill at the sports bar in Philly before both Jets FG attempts because once again it felt like another playoff let down.

You guys are revising history with your praise of Cowher.