Art Rooney Says Mike Tomlin Is The Steelers’ Coach Of The Future

[feltdizz]

Reason with the last decade. A franchise QB was wasted by a coach who’s clueless on how to win a championship. And people like you are really the ones who are not based in reality because you rationalize away an entire decade and make up explanations that are insane.

I feel bad for you. It’s a dangerous time right now when people ignore reality and make up stuff. There were a bunch of people who did just that on January 6th.

ignore reality and make up stuff?

I’m sure you don’t realize it but you are the one who would be outside Heinz Field ready to storm the FO to fire Tomlin while wearing a Possum skinned fanny pack.

While most of us are frustrated after a playoff loss you the resident Football QAnon poster that spent an offseason claiming Tomlin was in his last year and wouldn’t be extended.

You are so far from reality you have half the board blocked because you hate hearing views that are different from yours.

A few more of your Football QAnon post not based in reality:

Gentry has speed up the seam
Trade all the picks to get Lawrence
Rooney is an idiot and outdated
Lamar set the Ravens back 6 years
Randall Cunningham was a failure

[feltdizz]

it's impossible to underestimate how low Steel Maniac can go when he's trying to prove one of his false narratives.

Our very own Steeler QAnon poster.. lol.

The TBW’s are the deep state. Ben playing awful in the first half of the las 2 playoff games is a false flag.

[Northern_Blitz]

Reason with the last decade. A franchise QB was wasted by a coach who’s clueless on how to win a championship. And people like you are really the ones who are not based in reality because you rationalize away an entire decade and make up explanations that are insane.

I feel bad for you. It’s a dangerous time right now when people ignore reality and make up stuff. There were a bunch of people who did just that on January 6th.

Maybe that franchise QB contributed to that last decade with turnovers in the playoffs? His playoff int% is 3.8%.

About 50% higher than his career average. Which is already almost double that of someone like A Rodgers (who we were comparing him to a week or so ago).

Ben is a HOF worthy guy. But he just wasn't as good as we all hoped he'd be after he made 3 SBs so early in his career.

[Oviedo]

People like yourself have little basis in reality. It's difficult to reason with with people like you. People who only believe championships matter will never get it. People who believe they are superior because of X, Y, or Z will never get it also. At times this type of thought process saddens me. Oh well such is life.

The reality is success in sports or life can be measured in different ways.

Anyways Art helped this organization win 2 Superbowls, have several playoff appearances, and many win games. He will probably end up in the HOF. IMO he appeared to carry on with this organization's legacy.

The negative thoughts that permeates from some fans of this organization is just awful.

He's just a troll. His hatred of Tomlin makes him blind to everything else

But be careful or the coward will put you on ignore if you challenge him

[Steel Maniac]

It wasn't a waste. The organization put themselves in a position to compete for the SB. They won a lot of games and made the playoffs. They had opportunities. The organizations gave me reasons to be optimistic, pay attention, and remain interested every week.

Here is a news flash for you. The franchise QB was more responsible for this team's inability to win the SB than the HC. Franchise QB's performances are more important than the HC. That's just the way it is in the NFL.

No need to feel bad for me bro. I feel bad for you. It seems championships are what ONLY seem to matter to you. I can appreciate success short of SB wins. I feel bad for you because you simply make this about TOMLIN. I can see it as an ORGANIZATIONAL failure for various reasons.

Tomlin may never become the most successful HC in the history of the NFL. That won't diminish what he helped this organization accomplish over the years. Simply because I realize how difficult it is to win in the NFL.

Nobody is disputing his accomplishments in winning 8 regular season games every year. If thst is what your hanging your hat on then you have low expectations. Because if a guy has 10 chances to reach the super bowl and blows them all , then normally he gets fired. That’s all I’m saying. We know nobody can expect to go every year to the SB but with 10 tries , you should at least reach one SB. Tomlin has shown an ineptness unseen in the NFL. Go find me another modern day coach who in his last 10 playoff appearances failed 10 straight times to reach a super bowl and still have a job.

Cap, no hatred involved dude. Again, you read in what you want to read in to discredit the poster. We have a coach who can’t win even when he has the superior team in the playoffs. Proven by the last 12 years, That’s a fact. So much so that posters have tried to make me change my sig because it hurts them so.

[hawaiiansteel]

So much so that posters have tried to make me change my sig because it hurts them so.

this is narcissism at its finest.

not to mention laughable.

you need help.

[feltdizz]

The problem is the belief we have a superior team every year. We don’t. I think 2017 was the year we believed we had superior talent on offense.

Yet, we lost in the regular season to the same team we lost to in the playoffs and both games were at home.

When you believe its not possible to lose to other teams because of their name or history and not their actual team roster.. well, you will be eternally unhappy.

[feltdizz]

Maybe that franchise QB contributed to that last decade with turnovers in the playoffs? His playoff int% is 3.8%.

About 50% higher than his career average. Which is already almost double that of someone like A Rodgers (who we were comparing him to a week or so ago).

Ben is a HOF worthy guy. But he just wasn't as good as we all hoped he'd be after he made 3 SBs so early in his career.

thats it in a nutshell. Ben was great but as the defense started to slip and he was paid more to do more, he just hasn’t produced in the playoffs like expected our last 2 trips.

[hawaiiansteel]

Because if a guy has 10 chances to reach the super bowl and blows them all , then normally he gets fired. That’s all I’m saying.

Bill Cowher would have never won his Super Bowl with you in charge.

[feltdizz]

Bill Cowher would have never won his Super Bowl with you in charge.

well, that’s prolly different because Cowher is no longer here. The same people who love Cowher and hate Tomlin for not winning SB’s were Cowher hater back then too.

[hawaiiansteel]

Because if a guy has 10 chances to reach the super bowl and blows them all , then normally he gets fired. That’s all I’m saying.

you should call the Saints and tell them that Sean Payton needs to be fired immediately.

[hawaiiansteel]

Tomlin has shown an ineptness unseen in the NFL.

your hatred of Tomlin is making you so blind that you're now saying idiotic things.

[whatever]

Like I said before, I’m all in favor of seeing Tomlin here for several more seasons.
It will interesting to watch him run the team with his own players.
According to some, Ben has been holding this team back.
I am excited to see Tomlin have full control over this team.
And obviously, there are more important things than winning in Rooney’s eyes.

[Northern_Blitz]

Like I said before, I’m all in favor of seeing Tomlin here for several more seasons.
It will interesting to watch him run the team with his own players.
According to some, Ben has been holding this team back.
I am excited to see Tomlin have full control over this team.
And obviously, there are more important things than winning in Rooney’s eyes.

FWIW I didn't think Ben was holding us back until the end of this season.

I think Ben deserves most of the credit for our success since he's been here.

I also think he deserves most of the credit for the failures since he's been here.

That's how the NFL works. It's a QB driven league.

Ben is a high variance player and we live and die by the sword with him. But I don't think he has it anymore (hope I'm wrong).

I think Tomlin will be worse without Ben unless we get lucky with the next guy.

But I also think he'll generally do better than most teams with similar talent. Just like he's generally done better than most teams with franchise QBs on market level deals.

[NorthCoast]

FWIW I didn't think Ben was holding us back until the end of this season.

I think Ben deserves most of the credit for our success since he's been here.

I also think he deserves most of the credit for the failures since he's been here.

That's how the NFL works. It's a QB driven league.

Ben is a high variance player and we live and die by the sword with him. But I don't think he has it anymore (hope I'm wrong).

I think Tomlin will be worse without Ben unless we get lucky with the next guy.

But I also think he'll generally do better than most teams with similar talent. Just like he's generally done better than most teams with franchise QBs on market level deals.

We've lived with Bad Ben through most of his career. In the past he was able to overcome mistakes with big plays. That's been missing for a long time. Add to that his slow starts in games have made it a lot more difficult in games. In the last two playoff games he's had a interception in both in the first 10 minutes of the game. His game now has gotten to the point where a kinda wait for when the INT will happen.