Congrats Bruce Arians

[whatever]

Rumor is that Arians lobbied the NFL during last year's scheduling to get a late season bye. And if you remember before their bye Tampa's offense wasn't good. BA calling out Brady, TB miffed. Two losses in row. Enter the bye, they work out their differences, get people healthy (I think Evans was out for a while before) and got rolling once again. The Steelers on the other hand never really recovered from their shifting schedule due to the covid. Not saying this was the cause of the late season slide (cause they had the same problem 2 previous years) but it was a factor.

If true, that was great coaching or SAL( sheet arse luck).

[Captain Lemming]

i would guess that scoring has gone up league-wide. rules keep changing to make it easier on offense...

We were 20th in scoring in 2008. Compared to other teams in 2008.
That stat is not impacted by league trends.

Our offense scored more than 20 ONCE during the 2008 post season.

We score double that and lose thanks to ridiculous turnovers.

[Captain Lemming]

when you have a great D you don’t need to score 40 points.

My point exactly.
Without a "great D" Arians did Jack squat as our OC.

That is not speculation...we saw it.

Dizz, what happened whenever Arians did not have THE BEST DEFENSE IN THE LEAGUE.

THAT is how he got retired.

[Captain Lemming]

No.. making a SB isn’t the definition of success in the NFL.

9-3 as the interim coach for the Colts. A record for wins for an interim coach. He won COTY.

Led Arizona to 11-5 and 13-3 records in 2 of 4 years. I think they even made the NFCCG one year.

and sure, a SB appearance in Tampa with Brady.

He has had success no doubt as a head coach.
Doesn't mean he was ever a good coordinator.

[Captain Lemming]

And Tomlin ‘retired’ him.
Gotta wonder what the real reason was.

Lowest scoring average of Bens career (20.3)?
22nd ranked offense?

For reference consider that Ben is a shell of the player he was back then, and our offense was BETTER this year.

[feltdizz]

My point exactly.
Without a "great D" Arians did Jack squat as our OC.

That is not speculation...we saw it.

Dizz, what happened whenever Arians did not have THE BEST DEFENSE IN THE LEAGUE.

THAT is how he got retired.

didnt do jack squat? Didnt we go 12-4 in 2011 after the SB? Wasn’t Isaac Redman our starting RB in Denver?

lmao at getting punished for having a team that are known for having great defenses.

[Captain Lemming]

didnt do jack squat? Didnt we go 12-4 in 2011 after the SB? Wasn’t Isaac Redman our starting RB in Denver?

lmao at getting punished for having a team that are known for having great defenses.

What part of "best defense in the league" did you fail to grasp? And you wonder why I use CAPS with you all the time.

2011 Steelers:
21 in scoring offense.
Number 1 defense in scoring and yards.

Unless the dude coached linebackers on the side, I would suggest Arians coaching had little impact on that record. Well maybe the four losses.

[Captain Lemming]

lmao at getting punished for having a team that are known for having great defenses.

No, it is about giving credit where it is deserved. His job is to SCORE points period. The defenses job is to PREVENT points.

[Captain Lemming]

Fun fact.
Under Arians we had all of ONE win when allowing more than 28 points. We did not win shootouts.

If the defense had a bad game we were TOAST.

[whatever]

Lowest scoring average of Bens career (20.3)?
22nd ranked offense?

For reference consider that Ben is a shell of the player he was back then, and our offense was BETTER this year.

Our special teams coach survives when bad.

[feltdizz]

What part of "best defense in the league" did you fail to grasp? And you wonder why I use CAPS with you all the time.

2011 Steelers:
21 in scoring offense.
Number 1 defense in scoring and yards.

Unless the dude coached linebackers on the side, I would suggest Arians coaching had little impact on that record. Well maybe the four losses.

weird how you expect a team that invested heavy in the defense to have a great offense. We made SB’s. The goal is to score more than the opponent.

All those other teams that scored more points than us those years... and thru didn’t make we went to SB’s???

[Captain Lemming]

weird how you expect a team that invested heavy in the defense to have a great offense. We made SB’s.

You wanna make a case about where we invested? I can hear you.

We did draft Mendy, Sweed, Pouncey, Wallace and DD with early picks during those years. We hit on a skew of receivers too who were picked in later rounds.

The goal is to score more than the opponent.

All those other teams that scored more points than us those years... and thru didn’t make we went to SB’s???

Dude this ain't rocket science. Of course the TEAM goal is to score more than the other team.

The offensive coordinators contribution to that goal is to score points. We weren't very good at that under Arians.

We won DESPITE him not BECAUSE of him.

[Joel Buchsbaum]

Arians is a heck of a coach, wrongly let go by the Steelers. During his time, our OL was awful, that's on Colbert and Tomlin who run the draft and free agency, not the OC. Bruce also had a good relations with Ben, and that could have cost him.

[NorthCoast]

Check the 'points for' over league average margin and tell me Arians was doing a great job (BA's last season was 2011):

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[Northern_Blitz]

Check the 'points for' margin over league average and tell me Arians was doing a great job (BA's last season was 2011):

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This does suggest that there was an OC we wrongly got rid of.

But it wasn't Arians.