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  • hawaiiansteel
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    • May 2008
    • 35649

    #46
    Originally posted by Steel Maniac
    He and his other nine buddies are on permanent ignore for a reason. Don’t help them by capturing their post . That’s why all nine are on ignore so I don’t see their garbage anymore. I pay them no mind.
    yet you still make blanket statements claiming you know what we say.

    if you're going to be a coward and put the ten of us you don't agree with on ignore then stfu about what we supposedly think.

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    • papillon
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      • Mar 2008
      • 11340

      #47
      The Steelers need some depth on the oline. If Pouncey were willing to take vet minimum and be the backup center and the "in a pinch" guard would it be worth keeping him around? You would have someone that knows the offense and is familiar with the players around him at very little cost. I think Maurkice could still hold down the fort for a few games if need be. Just thinking of ways to keep a roster together that can compete and remain under the cap.

      Pappy
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      • JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
        Hall of Famer
        • May 2008
        • 3938

        #48
        Draft Humphrey or Myers in the 2nd.

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        • SteelBucks
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          • Aug 2008
          • 8075

          #49
          Originally posted by JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
          Draft Humphrey or Myers in the 2nd.
          And Najee Harris in the first.

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          • Ghost
            Legend
            • May 2008
            • 6423

            #50
            Originally posted by papillon
            The Steelers need some depth on the oline. If Pouncey were willing to take vet minimum and be the backup center and the "in a pinch" guard would it be worth keeping him around? You would have someone that knows the offense and is familiar with the players around him at very little cost. I think Maurkice could still hold down the fort for a few games if need be. Just thinking of ways to keep a roster together that can compete and remain under the cap.

            Pappy
            Pouncey is under contract for 1 more year so vet minimum is out. He'd be $14.475 M against the cap if he stays on. If he retires then his $8M salary would be given back but there would still be a dead money salary cap hit of $6.475 M due to prorated guaranteed bonus.
            Last edited by Ghost; 01-12-2021, 02:04 PM.
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            • hawaiiansteel
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              • May 2008
              • 35649

              #51
              Originally posted by JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
              Draft Humphrey or Myers in the 2nd.
              or Landon Dickerson, I would be very happy with any of those three in the 2nd round.

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              • feltdizz
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                • May 2008
                • 27568

                #52
                Originally posted by SteelBucks
                And Najee Harris in the first.
                sorry about last night

                Bama brought the pain. Najee and the WR put on a show.

                Really wish we could’ve seen Sermon last night.
                Steelers 27
                Rats 16

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                • hawaiiansteel
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                  • May 2008
                  • 35649

                  #53
                  Originally posted by Steel Maniac
                  He and his other nine buddies are on permanent ignore for a reason. That’s why all nine are on ignore
                  wouldn't that be ten?

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                  • feltdizz
                    Legend
                    • May 2008
                    • 27568

                    #54
                    wait, so did Pouncey make the announcement or is this just the media trying to be first?

                    Why can’t they just wait until they get an official word?
                    Steelers 27
                    Rats 16

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                    • feltdizz
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                      • May 2008
                      • 27568

                      #55
                      Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
                      wouldn't that be ten?

                      yo.. now we see why he mostly repeats what other people post.
                      Steelers 27
                      Rats 16

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                      • steeler_fan_in_t.o.
                        Legend
                        • May 2008
                        • 10287

                        #56
                        Originally posted by Disco1981
                        That's just stupid...I understand the cap ( a little ) But 2 things should be changed imo...

                        1) If a player is traded, The new team incurs all the salary ( you wanna trade or not ) The guy isn't on our team anymore thus, we shouldn't have anything to do with his salary ( unless you WANT to pay some, to rid yourself of a player ) The new team is responsible for 100% salary and any upcoming bonuses such as roster or incentive bonuses. The original team is responsible for pro-rated signing bonuses that have already been paid to the player. This keeps teams from being able to dump players onto teams who don't really want to spend. For example, the Steelers have Ben and they want to rid themselves of all $41M of his cap hit even though they have paid out the money and restructured to kick the can down the road (knowing that they will eventually be forced to eat the cap hit). Now they can't circumvent their cap responsibility by going to a team who doesn't want to spend, say to them "you have the cap space and not looking to spend, we trade you Ben and a second in return for your sixth and you have a HOF QB for only $19M, you just have to count the full $41M against your cap and we can shed $41M in cap money. It essentially allows teams to trade cap space." If the team is not looking to compete next year they just received an extra second rounder in return for selling 2021 cap space.

                        2) Retirement...The player retired! There should be no cap issues/ dead money...You pay him until the day he retires then...You owe him ZERO/ HE RETIRED!

                        Another way to circumvent the spirit of the rules. Let's say you have a player who has a couple of years left, and you agree to pay $20M per year. Sign him to a 5 year contract with $30M SB and $5M per year. Cap hit is $11M per year ($5M salary + $6M pro-rated SB). After two years he has received his $40M as agreed and the team only had to count $11M per year, saving $9M cap hit each year.

                        A) You cut a guy, you pay the piper...You gambled on a guy and YOU OVER- estimated his value...YOUR fault, pay up!
                        It sucks when you are the team who messed up your salary cap, but changing the rules would benefit the bigger market teams who are happy to overspend, which goes against the point of having a cap.
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                        • NorthCoast
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                          • Sep 2008
                          • 26640

                          #57
                          Originally posted by steeler_fan_in_t.o.
                          It sucks when you are the team who messed up your salary cap, but changing the rules would benefit the bigger market teams who are happy to overspend, which goes against the point of having a cap.
                          the bottom line is the rules were set up to prevent teams (as much as possible) from manipulating the cap to their advantage. Simplifying rules could lead to a lot of unintended results... with NE likely leading the way given their rules-stretching GM.

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                          • whatever
                            Legend
                            • Sep 2019
                            • 5795

                            #58
                            Originally posted by feltdizz
                            wait, so did Pouncey make the announcement or is this just the media trying to be first?

                            Why can’t they just wait until they get an official word?
                            It’s the way journalism is now.
                            You can totally lie and there is no accountability.
                            We are now becoming a society that is way too easy to control.
                            How is it possible to have the best owner, best front office, best gm, best HC, good/great drafts every year and good FA acquisitions every year, but only have 3 playoff wins in 14 years?

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                            • NorthCoast
                              Legend
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 26640

                              #59
                              Originally posted by whatever
                              It’s the way journalism is now.
                              You can totally lie and there is no accountability.
                              We are now becoming a society that is way too easy to control.
                              There's a great movie (true story) on this if you get the chance; "Shattered Glass"... free stream if you have the IMDb app.

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                              • feltdizz
                                Legend
                                • May 2008
                                • 27568

                                #60
                                Originally posted by whatever
                                It’s the way journalism is now.
                                You can totally lie and there is no accountability.
                                We are now becoming a society that is way too easy to control.
                                indeed. No need to verify or be held accountable. Just make up a new story and pivot to a new sensation
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