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  • Captain Lemming
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    • Jun 2008
    • 15979

    Originally posted by feltdizz
    but we didn’t make a SB with Bell.

    Didn’t make one with DD either but why should that stop us from drafting another lineman in the first?
    Because we DID win one with Faneca. .
    Our 5th round runningback had the longest run in SB history as a result.
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    • hawaiiansteel
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      • May 2008
      • 35317

      Originally posted by Captain Lemming
      Because we DID win one with Faneca. .
      Our 5th round runningback had the longest run in SB history as a result.
      even better, Willie Parker was an UDFA.

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      • Captain Lemming
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        • Jun 2008
        • 15979

        Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
        even better, Willie Parker was an UDFA.
        Dang....I forgot, thought we grabbed him late round. I guess it strengthens my case.
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        • NJ-STEELER
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          • May 2008
          • 12563

          Originally posted by Captain Lemming
          Dang....I forgot, thought we grabbed him late round. I guess it strengthens my case.
          willie was the last late round/ UDFA RB to make a difference.
          but that was 16 years ago and with a different staff


          there has been a load of running backs drafted late or signed as UDFA since then that haven't registered much of anything

          the Backs who have done well under this staff (bell, mendy) have been high draft choices
          Last edited by NJ-STEELER; 04-24-2021, 11:49 PM.

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          • Captain Lemming
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            • Jun 2008
            • 15979

            Originally posted by NJ-STEELER
            willie was the last late round/ UDFA RB to make a difference.
            but that was 16 years ago and with a different staff


            there has been a load of running backs drafted late or signed as UDFA since then that haven't registered much of anything

            the Backs who have done well under this staff (bell, mendy) have been high draft choices
            We are talking 1st round picks...Dizzs point.
            Steelers 1st round backs since Franco nearly 50 years ago:

            Greg Hawthorne
            Walter Abercrombie
            Tim Worley
            Rashard Mendenhall

            Thousand yard seasons total- TWO
            Give me Faneca over Mendy any day of the week.

            Last former Steeler back to bring a Lombardi to the great state of Pennsylvania? He like Willie was a former undrafted free agent.
            He did it in 2017.
            His name?

            Lagerett Blount...too bad it was for the Eagles...to go along with his Pats rings.

            I remember watching that draft at Buffalo Wild Wings in here in Boise, and people loved his slide in that draft as they hate him here for clocking a BSU player in college.

            Blount shows how EASY it is to get yourself a championship caliber back. He was our BACKUP.
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            • NJ-STEELER
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              • May 2008
              • 12563

              Originally posted by Captain Lemming
              We are talking 1st round picks...Dizzs point.
              Steelers 1st round backs since Franco nearly 50 years ago:

              Greg Hawthorne
              Walter Abercrombie
              Tim Worley
              Rashard Mendenhall

              Thousand yard seasons total- TWO
              Give me Faneca over Mendy any day of the week.

              Last former Steeler back to bring a Lombardi to the great state of Pennsylvania? He like Willie was a former undrafted free agent.
              He did it in 2017.
              His name?

              Lagerett Blount...too bad it was for the Eagles...to go along with his Pats rings.

              I remember watching that draft at Buffalo Wild Wings in here in Boise, and people loved his slide in that draft as they hate him here for clocking a BSU player in college.

              Blount shows how EASY it is to get yourself a championship caliber back. He was our BACKUP.

              dude
              give me 1 example of a late round guy doing well on this team under this staff.

              I'm someone who does believe you can get find a quality back later in the draft but it has not occurred with this regime. (GM, head coach, position coach, scouts, position scouts)
              the OL is bad now but it hasn't been bad for 16 years to not have someone develop in that time

              they've tried for many years to hit on a late back and it hasn't worked.
              to the point we are at now...desperate... last in the league in rushing


              if the RB class was deep into the 2nd or 3rd round, I would agree with you we should be able to find one.
              but by all prognostications in its the top 3 and then a big drop off.

              i do not want someone who is going to compare to the snells, mcfarlands, samuels they have trotted out there
              we need better talent at that position

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              • Northern_Blitz
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                • Dec 2008
                • 23986

                Originally posted by NJ-STEELER
                willie was the last late round/ UDFA RB to make a difference.
                but that was 16 years ago and with a different staff


                there has been a load of running backs drafted late or signed as UDFA since then that haven't registered much of anything

                the Backs who have done well under this staff (bell, mendy) have been high draft choices
                Was listening to the Terrible Take today.

                Was from a listener.

                Compared Colbert's record of drafting CBs to RBs.

                I think we all know how bad the CB drafting has been. But I didn't realize how bad the RB picks have been.

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                • Captain Lemming
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                  • Jun 2008
                  • 15979

                  Originally posted by NJ-STEELER
                  dude
                  give me 1 example of a late round guy doing well on this team under this staff.

                  I'm someone who does believe you can get find a quality back later in the draft but it has not occurred with this regime. (GM, head coach, position coach, scouts, position scouts)
                  the OL is bad now but it hasn't been bad for 16 years to not have someone develop in that time

                  they've tried for many years to hit on a late back and it hasn't worked.
                  to the point we are at now...desperate... last in the league in rushing


                  if the RB class was deep into the 2nd or 3rd round, I would agree with you we should be able to find one.
                  but by all prognostications in its the top 3 and then a big drop off.

                  i do not want someone who is going to compare to the snells, mcfarlands, samuels they have trotted out there
                  we need better talent at that position
                  Again, I'm talking 1st round. I don't mind one in the 2nd. "If" a first round back is clearly higher than oline I'm not totally against it.

                  But if everything is equal, I address the oline as a need priority. Why?

                  You mention all our "misses" at RB. But Conner made the probowl and we led the league in red zone DESPITE the admittedly fragile Conner starting. Better redzone than ANY Bell team.

                  Why?

                  Oline was superb that season.

                  Bell? How great has he looked behind a garbage oline on the Jets?

                  How did his entire KC offensive juggernaut team look with a compromised oline in the SB?
                  Last edited by Captain Lemming; 04-25-2021, 10:56 AM.
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                  • Steel Maniac
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                    • Apr 2017
                    • 19472

                    Originally posted by Northern_Blitz
                    Was listening to the Terrible Take today.

                    Was from a listener.

                    Compared Colbert's record of drafting CBs to RBs.

                    I think we all know how bad the CB drafting has been. But I didn't realize how bad the RB picks have been.
                    It didn’t help that Colbert kept looking for little , light in the pants running backs like Dri Archer year after year. Lol.

                    And that includes his latest Dri Archer clone in McFarland.

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                    • hawaiiansteel
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                      • May 2008
                      • 35317

                      Originally posted by Steel Maniac
                      It didn’t help that Colbert kept looking for little , light in the pants running backs like Dri Archer year after year. Lol.

                      And that includes his latest Dri Archer clone in McFarland.
                      McFarland weighs 35 more lbs than Archer did.

                      once again, as usual you have a totally uninformed opinion.
                      Last edited by hawaiiansteel; 04-25-2021, 12:12 PM.

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                      • NJ-STEELER
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                        • May 2008
                        • 12563

                        Originally posted by Captain Lemming
                        Again, I'm talking 1st round. I don't mind one in the 2nd. "If" a first round back is clearly higher than oline I'm not totally against it.

                        But if everything is equal, I address the oline as a need priority. Why?

                        You mention all our "misses" at RB. But Conner made the probowl and we led the league in red zone DESPITE the admittedly fragile Conner starting. Better redzone than ANY Bell team.

                        Why?

                        Oline was superb that season.

                        Bell? How great has he looked behind a garbage oline on the Jets?

                        How did his entire KC offensive juggernaut team look with a compromised oline in the SB?
                        okay, i get what you're saying

                        but here's another thing to think about. after the big 3 RBs, there will be a big drop off and its supposedly
                        a Deep draft at OT and the OL in general.

                        if they go OT in round 1 its likely the 4th/5th best available. if they wait until the 2nd round perhaps its the 9th/10th best.
                        what's the drop off considering that.
                        if they feel the drop off at RB is bigger then they should go RB first. thats getting value in the draft

                        PS. im not sure why you leave franco out in your comparison.
                        that's 4 championships with a 1st round RB
                        Last edited by NJ-STEELER; 04-25-2021, 09:33 PM.

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                        • NJ-STEELER
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                          • May 2008
                          • 12563

                          Originally posted by Northern_Blitz
                          Was listening to the Terrible Take today.

                          Was from a listener.

                          Compared Colbert's record of drafting CBs to RBs.

                          I think we all know how bad the CB drafting has been. But I didn't realize how bad the RB picks have been.
                          yeah, its been pretty bad. especially when you look around the league and see late RB picks contributing

                          and that's colbert, tomlin, scouts etc

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                          • SteelBucks
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                            • Aug 2008
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                            Originally posted by NJ-STEELER
                            okay, i get what you're saying

                            but here's another thing to think about. after the big 3 RBs, there will be a big drop off and its supposedly
                            a Deep draft at OT and the OL in general.

                            if they go OT in round 1 its likely the 4th/5th best available. if they wait until the 2nd round perhaps its the 9th/10th best.
                            what's the drop off considering that.
                            if they feel the drop off at RB is bigger then they should go RB first. thats getting value in the draft
                            This is also my approach. I sometimes think we forget the draft is seven rounds. We could get a top flight RB in the first and still put together a really good, much improved OL in rounds 2-7.

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                            • NJ-STEELER
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                              • May 2008
                              • 12563

                              Originally posted by SteelBucks
                              This is also my approach. I sometimes think we forget the draft is seven rounds. We could get a top flight RB in the first and still put together a really good, much improved OL in rounds 2-7.
                              $
                              a 2nd round OL would be the highest drafted player on the OL other then decastro, who is likely gone soon

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                              • Captain Lemming
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                                • Jun 2008
                                • 15979

                                Originally posted by NJ-STEELER
                                okay, i get what you're saying

                                but here's another thing to think about. after the big 3 RBs, there will be a big drop off and its supposedly
                                a Deep draft at OT and the OL in general.

                                if they go OT in round 1 its likely the 4th/5th best available. if they wait until the 2nd round perhaps its the 9th/10th best.
                                what's the drop off considering that.
                                if they feel the drop off at RB is bigger then they should go RB first. thats getting value in the draft

                                PS. im not sure why you leave franco out in your comparison.
                                that's 4 championships with a 1st round RB
                                I do think your take is reasonable. If the drop off on backs is greater than oline I can buy what you are selling.
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