Question for those of you who are critical of Tomlin....

[Captain Lemming]

just shows you how ****ty cam Newton really is. I predicted they would suck when the pats signed him.

going by his history of making patch work defenses top units and his record with great QBs. Yes I would say the Steelers would be a top SB contender

Oh please.
You do know if this team is one and done we would have matched the Patriots last season WITH Brady?

How would this team do better than that one?

Sure ain't the magic sauce that resulted in NE losing 20-13 to the Titans in a one and done.

[Sly]

I think you only care about the cheating if it isn’t your team doing it.

I wonder how most people in Houston feel about the Astros cheating. I like to look at cheating from the perspective of a team that I would play for rather than one I root for. Can't believe that I would take pride in winning a championship through cheating.

[Northern_Blitz]

I wonder how most people in Houston feel about the Astros cheating. I like to look at cheating from the perspective of a team that I would play for rather than one I root for. Can't believe that I would take pride in winning a championship through cheating.

I think they don't care because it led to team success.

How do Ravens fans feel about Ray Lewis after being involved in a murder (or at least obstruction of justice related to murders)? Don't care, great player. Heart of the team in SB years (and a SB MVP)!

How do Steelers fans feel about Ben after the rape allegations (which show he was at least a huge ******* and maybe a rapist)? We look past it because two more rings!

In both cases what they were involved in (or allegedly involved in for Ben), is significantly worse than cheating in sports.

But fans almost always cheer for things that are good for the name on the front of the jersey. Even if it's ugly behind the scenes.

[NJ-STEELER]

Oh please.
You do know if this team is one and done we would have matched the Patriots last season WITH Brady?

How would this team do better than that one?

Sure ain't the magic sauce that resulted in NE losing 20-13 to the Titans in a one and done.

Personally . I would look into the last 20 years of how they’ve fared instead of 1 particular year to get a more accurate assessment

[hawaiiansteel]

Personally . I would look into the last 20 years of how they’ve fared instead of 1 particular year to get a more accurate assessment

you make a great Patriots* fan.

[NJ-STEELER]

you make a great Patriots* fan.

Ya.
keep choking on buckwheat Jackson’s d**k.

suits you well

[hawaiiansteel]

Ya.
keep choking on buckwheat Jackson’s d**k.

suits you well

you can suck on Belicheat's.

[NJ-STEELER]

you can suck on Belicheat's.

good comeback.

[hawaiiansteel]

good comeback.

thanks, I'll be here all week.

[Sly]

I think they don't care because it led to team success.

How do Ravens fans feel about Ray Lewis after being involved in a murder (or at least obstruction of justice related to murders)? Don't care, great player. Heart of the team in SB years (and a SB MVP)!

How do Steelers fans feel about Ben after the rape allegations (which show he was at least a huge ******* and maybe a rapist)? We look past it because two more rings!

In both cases what they were involved in (or allegedly involved in for Ben), is significantly worse than cheating in sports.

But fans almost always cheer for things that are good for the name on the front of the jersey. Even if it's ugly behind the scenes.

The problem with Ray Lewis was that when he first became a professional football player, he never abandoned his friends from the hood. There is nothing lower in the "hood culture" than a snitch. So when Lewis refused to cooperate with investigators, he was charged.

What Lewis learned from that incident was that he had to be highly selective in choosing his friends.

With Ben it was drinking. Mix wealthy professional football players, drinking, and girls, and nothing good will result.

Both Ben and Ray learned their lessons from the "school of hard knocks." To the best of my knowledge they've been model citizens after those events. I doubt that either organization would have tolerated another incident, and they were undoubtedly advised of that fact by management, maybe even by the owners.

[feltdizz]

I think they don't care because it led to team success.

How do Ravens fans feel about Ray Lewis after being involved in a murder (or at least obstruction of justice related to murders)? Don't care, great player. Heart of the team in SB years (and a SB MVP)!

How do Steelers fans feel about Ben after the rape allegations (which show he was at least a huge ******* and maybe a rapist)? We look past it because two more rings!

In both cases what they were involved in (or allegedly involved in for Ben), is significantly worse than cheating in sports.

But fans almost always cheer for things that are good for the name on the front of the jersey. Even if it's ugly behind the scenes.

I’m sure there are some Raven fans who never liked Ray and cal him a murderer.. but they still love that SB ring.

I think Ray and Ben are great comparisons. Steeler fans call him a murderer and then turn right around and defend Ben... and vice versa for Raven fans.

[feltdizz]

you make a great Patriots* fan.

dude is doing some serious heavy lifting for the Pats

[Sly]

dude is doing some serious heavy lifting for the Pats

I can see that franchise stringing together some consecutive losing seasons. Cheating will only get you so far.

[hawaiiansteel]

dude is doing some serious heavy lifting for the Pats

if I knew NJ was such a Belicheat lover I could have bought him a hoodie for Christmas:

[Captain Lemming]

Personally . I would look into the last 20 years of how they’ve fared instead of 1 particular year to get a more accurate assessment

What do you mean. 20 seasons with arguable the GOAT at QB?

ONE SEASON of less than elite QB play and he cant win with BRADY.
He had a VERY GOOD run game, elite defense, Brady falls from the ranks of elite and the dude is one and done.

Our aging QB is TWENTY SECOND in passer rating.
How many rings does BB have with a QB playing like that?