The O-line going forward

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  • steeler_fan_in_t.o.
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    • May 2008
    • 10287

    #31
    As I said pre-draft:

    2020 OL

    LT - AV
    LG - open
    C - Pouncey
    RG - DD
    RT - open

    Feiler will start - either LG or RT. Everyone else fights it out for the fifth spot - My guess is that Okorafor wins RT and Feiler is at LG.
    http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/k...to_Mike/to.jpg

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    • steeler_george
      Hall of Famer
      • Dec 2008
      • 3417

      #32
      Originally posted by steeler_fan_in_t.o.
      As I said pre-draft:

      2020 OL

      LT - AV
      LG - open
      C - Pouncey
      RG - DD
      RT - open

      Feiler will start - either LG or RT. Everyone else fights it out for the fifth spot - My guess is that Okorafor wins RT and Feiler is at LG.
      I must be thickheaded!

      It is stuck in my head...
      Why am I stubburn and thinking that AV is going to beaten out by OKA, who is probably more athletic, younger and cheaper. The Steeler brass waited 3 years to develop him, now its play time. AV's play last year was just as bad as Fosters. I would not count out if they trade AV save cap space and bring in a S or ILB.

      And maybe I am dreaming thinking a 4th rounder can come in and claim a starting position.

      OkaA-Dotson-Pouncey-Decastro-Feiler-- reserv=Winieski, Banner, Grey

      I know all new faces on the left side to protect BB's blind spot especially in this virus era.
      Maybe more conservative approach is

      OKA-Feiler-P-DD-Banner resv tackle- Feiler, W, Dotson, Grey

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      • Steel Maniac
        Banned
        • Apr 2017
        • 19472

        #33
        Sarratt hasn’t given us any reason to believe he can develop anyone; and any reason to believe he’s a creditable O-line coach as of yet. That’s probably our biggest question going into this season.

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        • Mr.wizard
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          • May 2014
          • 6686

          #34
          Originally posted by Steel Maniac
          Sarratt hasn’t given us any reason to believe he can develop anyone; and any reason to believe he’s a creditable O-line coach as of yet. That’s probably our biggest question going into this season.
          The Steelers hired him to be the offensive line coach with a 100 million dollar QB under center, I don't think they would do that if he wasn't a credible coach.

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          • Steel Maniac
            Banned
            • Apr 2017
            • 19472

            #35
            Originally posted by Mr.wizard
            The Steelers hired him to be the offensive line coach with a 100 million dollar QB under center, I don't think they would do that if he wasn't a credible coach.
            There is nothing in actuality that has proven he is credible. They hired him on belief; but we saw nothing to justify that belief.

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            • Mr.wizard
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              • May 2014
              • 6686

              #36
              Originally posted by Steel Maniac
              There is nothing in actuality that has proven he is credible. They hired him on belief; but we saw nothing to justify that belief.
              Are you saying the Steelers hired him without any evidence he could do the job? Why would they have to give you reasons, what makes you think you would even be able apply those reasons towards the assessment of an offensive line coach? The fact that the Steelers hired him is evidence that he knows something about coaching offensive lineman.

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              • Iron City Inc.
                Hall of Famer
                • Jun 2013
                • 3241

                #37
                Originally posted by Steel Maniac
                There is nothing in actuality that has proven he is credible. They hired him on belief; but we saw nothing to justify that belief.
                Sarratt's been around since 2012. Got to believe he is teaching the same tech's Munch did. OL did the same drills at Latrobe they've been doing and I did not see anything different in their tech's. He was a guard at Kent St so he's played the game. He's not without a solid resume. In 2019 Foster was a shell of the player he once was. Our qb play was an issue and when the box is stacked you add all that up and it's not easy. However no reason to believe he won't mature in his job and improve and I'm confident we get better OL play. Getting 7 behind center is a game changer from where we were a year ago. With our weak link now removed and perhaps getting a slightly better blocking FB in the mix we'll be improved even if Dotson needs a " red shirt " year.

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                • Steel Maniac
                  Banned
                  • Apr 2017
                  • 19472

                  #38
                  Iron...

                  Hopefully your right but there is a reason Munch was the best O-line coach in the league when we hired him. And just because Serrett sat behind Munch doesn’t mean he’s as good as munch. If that were the case , all O-line coaches would be equal.
                  Hopefully, some personnel change on the O-line will do the trick; But If Sarrett is truly the problem , then our season is already over. A bad O-line means we have no chance.

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                  • Iron City Inc.
                    Hall of Famer
                    • Jun 2013
                    • 3241

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Steel Maniac
                    Iron...

                    Hopefully your right but there is a reason Munch was the best O-line coach in the league when we hired him. And just because Serrett sat behind Munch doesn’t mean he’s as good as munch. If that were the case , all O-line coaches would be equal.
                    Hopefully, some personnel change on the O-line will do the trick; But If Sarrett is truly the problem , then our season is already over. A bad O-line means we have no chance.
                    Your right just because Sarratt was the understudy doesn't mean he's as good. I didn't say he was. And your right again in that IF the O line is bad we're in trouble. Unless we get the injury bug I'm thinking our OL though will be solid. I was always a better coach when I had better players on the field same applies here.

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                    • winwithd
                      Starter
                      • Nov 2009
                      • 895

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Steel Maniac
                      Iron...

                      Hopefully your right but there is a reason Munch was the best O-line coach in the league when we hired him. And just because Serrett sat behind Munch doesn’t mean he’s as good as munch. If that were the case , all O-line coaches would be equal.
                      Hopefully, some personnel change on the O-line will do the trick; But If Sarrett is truly the problem , then our season is already over. A bad O-line means we have no chance.
                      Wasnt the Oline a bit sketchy 10 years ago when we won our last SB? IIRC the defense was lights out though, and we had Ben, a back that could go the distance, and good but probably not the best receivers in the league. Isnt that similar to this years group?

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                      • BURGH86STEEL
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                        • May 2008
                        • 6933

                        #41
                        Originally posted by Steel Maniac
                        Sarratt hasn’t given us any reason to believe he can develop anyone; and any reason to believe he’s a creditable O-line coach as of yet. That’s probably our biggest question going into this season.
                        There is nothing to discredit or question the man up to this point. The Steelers hired him because the organization appreciates familiarity, continuity, and they believe he can do the job.

                        The biggest question heading into the season is Ben.

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                        • Steel Maniac
                          Banned
                          • Apr 2017
                          • 19472

                          #42
                          Originally posted by BURGH86STEEL
                          There is nothing to discredit or question the man up to this point. The Steelers hired him because the organization appreciates familiarity, continuity, and they believe he can do the job.

                          The biggest question heading into the season is Ben.
                          Disagree; there is no actual, valid proof you can point to that shows he was a good coach. Not by the way that line performed. I’m not buying the excuse the entire line just got old all of a sudden. That might be partially true ; but the other part is that he was a rookie O-line coach. Another crappy O-line performance this year and we’ll have our answer in an even more definitive way.

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                          • Mr.wizard
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                            • May 2014
                            • 6686

                            #43
                            We didnt really have Oline issues last season, we were just hampered by bad QB play. The O line is fine, the issue is will be Ben be at his best.

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                            • Steel Maniac
                              Banned
                              • Apr 2017
                              • 19472

                              #44
                              Originally posted by Mr.wizard
                              We didnt really have Oline issues last season, we were just hampered by bad QB play. The O line is fine, the issue is will be Ben be at his best.
                              What???? Did you see the way that line played WITH Ben in the first game and a half??

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                              • Mr.wizard
                                Legend
                                • May 2014
                                • 6686

                                #45
                                Originally posted by Steel Maniac
                                What???? Did you see the way that line played WITH Ben in the first game and a half??
                                Yes I did they played fine, the QB even though it was Ben was playing bad.

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