State of our OL

[hawaiiansteel]

at least that’s what we are to believe. I wouldn’t be surprised if they worked out some type of compensation off the books.

nothing would surprise me from the Cheatriots*

[Northern_Blitz]

Some do but their exceptions and not the rule.

This. I think the time for hometown discounts has all but passed by (if it ever existed in the FA era).

What we're left with is trying to negotiate long terms deals before players hit UFA. We do this for guys in the last year of their contracts, or by slapping a tag on them while trying to get a deal done. Both of these strategies force players to choose between more security of a longer term deal (not that NFL contracts are guaranteed) and maximum revenue from waiting to get fair market value.

[Disco1981]

nothing would surprise me from the Cheatriots*

I've said for years, They've cheated at everything...

Kraft: " Psssst, Hey Tom/ Marsha here's the deal... We'll give you say 20 million but, ( slides him a bag across the table ) but here's wink wink another 50

Tom/ Marsha... " This is great, I'll be made out to be so unselfish, We can get more and more players to cheat with, and nobody will suspect a thing because my live in gash makes more than me... Brilliant!

[Captain Lemming]

at least that’s what we are to believe. I wouldn’t be surprised if they worked out some type of compensation off the books.

Possible. But even if he isn't getting under the table money, taking less to win has a financial benefit.
In the long term, being known as the goat at the most valued position of America's most popular sport, and winning more championships than any player in history is real value.

Not only is the inner value if those things greater, when all is said and done Brady will make more financially over the long run due to accomplishments that will make him many times more profitable post NFL.

[Steel Maniac]

Possible. But even if he isn't getting under the table money, taking less to win has a financial benefit.
In the long term, being known as the goat at the most valued position of America's most popular sport, and winning more championships than any player in history is real value.

Not only is the inner value if those things greater, when all is said and done Brady will make more financially over the long run due to accomplishments that will make him many times more profitable post NFL.

Yep... he’s already started his movie production company.

[steeler_fan_in_t.o.]

so you are not a believer in players giving home town discounts??

I'm surprised it doesn't happen more often. Not because of the hometown aspect, but the happiness/quality of life thing. The argument that us everyday people always make is "you would do the same if you were offered more money to move to another job, but is that always true? If you make $1M a year (I want to give a high enough number to us unwashed masses so that we know we don't need more money to feed our families and pay our basic bills) but you have a long commute to and from work every day, you work in a highly stressful environment, you hate your boss, you hate the people you work with, your wife keeps complaining to you that you never spend time with your family etc.. Now you have an opportunity to move to a different job. It's close to home, great people, less stressful, the whole works. The only problem is that they can only pay you $900K - a 10% cut in pay. You will still be making enough money to maintain your lifestyle. You should still be able to retire early, put away enough for your kids to go to whatever college they want, and a nice inheritance for when you are no longer around.....but less money.

The sports situation is usually the reverse. Do you leave a situation that you know, and have success in, and makes you happy, for more money elsewhere? Either way you will have enough money for almost anything you will want for the rest of your life (if you manage your money even remotely well). There is enough anecdotal evidence to suggest that it is often a mistake to chase the dollars.

[steeler_fan_in_t.o.]

nothing would surprise me from the Cheatriots*

I've believed for years that Brady earns more than his contract. Back in the day it used to be called a "personal services" contract. Colleges have used them for generations - a wealthy booster gives star player a part-time job where he earns big dough for little work. It's the easiest loophole to exploit and you know an organization with a known long-term history of actually breaking rules has no problem bending them as wanted.

[feltdizz]

I'm surprised it doesn't happen more often. Not because of the hometown aspect, but the happiness/quality of life thing. The argument that us everyday people always make is "you would do the same if you were offered more money to move to another job, but is that always true? If you make $1M a year (I want to give a high enough number to us unwashed masses so that we know we don't need more money to feed our families and pay our basic bills) but you have a long commute to and from work every day, you work in a highly stressful environment, you hate your boss, you hate the people you work with, your wife keeps complaining to you that you never spend time with your family etc.. Now you have an opportunity to move to a different job. It's close to home, great people, less stressful, the whole works. The only problem is that they can only pay you $900K - a 10% cut in pay. You will still be making enough money to maintain your lifestyle. You should still be able to retire early, put away enough for your kids to go to whatever college they want, and a nice inheritance for when you are no longer around.....but less money.

The sports situation is usually the reverse. Do you leave a situation that you know, and have success in, and makes you happy, for more money elsewhere? Either way you will have enough money for almost anything you will want for the rest of your life (if you manage your money even remotely well). There is enough anecdotal evidence to suggest that it is often a mistake to chase the dollars.

My wife was just offered a job. It’s a longer commute and the area is in rural, SC. It would take her 20 minutes just to get to a place that serves lunch. Its more money but it’s not enough for us to turn our lives upside down... and there is no way I want my kids growing up in an area that lacks diversity.

I think this also comes into play with NFL players with a family and some structure.

It’s a little different with the NFL because it’s generational money and the season is roughly 16 to 18 weeks. A lot of players rent in the city they play and have homes elsewhere in the offseason.

[Captain Lemming]

and there is no way I want my kids growing up in an area that lacks diversity.

Exactly. Thats why I moved from Hawaii to Boise.
People of English descent, Irish decent, some are of Scottish decent too, French....I could go on ....so diverse......pretty much the entire continent of Europe....you name it we got it here.

[hawaiiansteel]

Exactly. Thats why I moved from Hawaii to Boise.
People of English descent, Irish decent, some are of Scottish decent too, French....I could go on ....so diverse......pretty much the entire continent of Europe....you name it we got it here.

we have diversity here in Hawaii...

[steeler_fan_in_t.o.]

My wife was just offered a job. It’s a longer commute and the area is in rural, SC. It would take her 20 minutes just to get to a place that serves lunch. Its more money but it’s not enough for us to turn our lives upside down... and there is no way I want my kids growing up in an area that lacks diversity.

I think this also comes into play with NFL players with a family and some structure.

It’s a little different with the NFL because it’s generational money and the season is roughly 16 to 18 weeks. A lot of players rent in the city they play and have homes elsewhere in the offseason.

Nice, and your family decided to maintain the current quality of life and happiness over the money. I'm sure there were arguments both ways but, even without generational money, she decided to not take the higher paying job.

I think in pro sports the athletes know sometimes that they would rather stay in their current situation, but there is so much pressure from agents, the unions, others who tell you that being the highest paid is what's most important get to these guys. I don't blame them for getting whatever contract they can, but I'll bet that way too often they regret it.

[Captain Lemming]

we have diversity here in Hawaii...

You really feel the need to make a case that Hawaii is more diverse than BOISE.
I describe 5 flavors of white and you took me seriously?

I even included the smileys and everything.

[hawaiiansteel]

You really feel the need to make a case that Hawaii is more diverse than BOISE.
I describe 5 flavors of white and you took me seriously?

I even included the smileys and everything.

Boise does have more of a diverse group of haoles, yes

[Captain Lemming]

Boise does have more of a diverse group of haoles, yes

Either place...popolos like me....kinda rare.

[Captain Lemming]

Captain Lemming grew up a Black Steeler fan in Hawaii. His actual name begins with the letter "B". He settled in a mainland state that begins with the letter "I". He is now in his late 50s.
You know there is a 50 percent chance that Captain Lemming is a former president.