OT: NFL coaches cut/hire rumors

[hawaiiansteel]

Hasn’t been a great last 3 weeks to be a Tomlin ballwasher either. Losing to the Jets?

gee, wonder why I could be having Tomlin discussions with you?

[Steel Maniac]

Sean Payton had Drew Brees at QB, and was an 8 point favorite playing at home. Tomlin had an undrafted rookie QB playing on the road.

big difference...

Payton had a bad day against a playoff team. We lost to the Jets. Big difference.

[Captain Lemming]

There’s more then stats that determines who’s a good coach overall. You know that.

Tomlin got his ring because he got Cowhers players and coaches. Peyton built his championship team from nothing. Peyton is a superior team builder and coach. Tomlin wouldn’t have half those numbers if he didn’t have Cowher’s Super bowl nucleus.

You USED to say that Tomlin had elite secondary because he inherited Cowhers 20th ranked pass defense.
Yet Cowher never had a number 1 pass defense in his entire career...with his own players. Tomlin did it THRICE.

Now he is getting it done with his own guys Maniac.

Lead the league in sacks...THREE STRAIGHT SEASONS. Zero Cowher players.

LEAD THE LEAGUE my friend in turnovers...NOT ONE Cowher player on defense.

The best stretch of post Noll defenses with "Cowhers players" were presided over by TOMLIN period.
An top tier defense is happening as we speak...without Cowhers players
The best post Noll offenses were presided over by TOMLIN....with save for Ben (Rooney's pick over Cowher) his own players.

The whole premise is ridiculous.

[Steel Maniac]

Hawaii, what do you hope to accomplish with this dialog? Nothing is changing on either side. So your wasting your time.

[Steel Maniac]

You USED to say that Tomlin had elite secondary because he inherited Cowhers 20th ranked pass defense.
Yet Cowher never had a number 1 pass defense in his entire career...with his own players. Tomlin did it THRICE.

Lead the league in sacks...THREE STRAIGHT SEASONS.

He couldnt get turnovers without Cowhers players.
LEAD THE LEAGUE my friend in turnovers...NOT ONE Cowher player on defense.

The best stretch of post Noll defenses with "Cowhers players" were presided over by TOMLIN period.
The best post Noll offenses were presided over by TOMLIN....with save for Ben (Rooney's pick over Cowher) his own players.

Again, someone else’s players. Not players that he coached up to greatness.

[Steel Maniac]

Hawaiian, what’s the deal? Why go done this path? What do you hope to accomplish? Why are you constantly seeking to have Tomlin dialog with me?

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[Steel Maniac]

Let’s stick to the thread topic.

[hawaiiansteel]

Let’s stick to the thread topic.

are you a mod?

[Captain Lemming]

Payton had a bad day against a playoff team. We lost to the Jets. Big difference.

Yes, big difference indeed.
Their HOF QB played. Ours is fattening up for next season, replaced by an undrafted rookie who was not good enough to make our roster in September.

[Steel Maniac]

Yes, big difference indeed.
Their HOF QB played. Ours is fattening up for next season, replaced by an undrafted rookie who was not good enough to make our roster in September.

Nope; you can’t beat your chest when we beat the Rams with that guy and then play “ wooh is me” when losing to the Jets. You guys are incredible.

[hawaiiansteel]

Nope; you can’t beat your chest when we beat the Rams with that guy and then play “ wooh is me” when losing to the Jets. You guys are incredible.

you really need to check your facts before making stupid statements.

Mason Rudolph was the QB against the Rams, he didn't play the whole game against the Jets.

[Steel Maniac]

You guys are determined to hijack this thread into another Tomlin discussion which is pointless. Please refer to my signature for all my thoughts on Tomlin. There is no need for further discussion with me about Tomlin. Whatever likes endless, pointless Tomlin talk ; I don’t. Saying the same stuff over and over again is pointless.

[Steel Maniac]

you really need to check your facts before making stupid statements.

Mason Rudolph was the QB against the Rams, he didn't play the whole game against the Jets.

Dude,

rudolph/ duck doesn’t matter. His point was about a backup QB. You seem to be in a bad mood today. You don’t answer my question about what’s wrong with you but you want to fight on everything. Your stupid talk is going to move you into ruthlessville.

[hawaiiansteel]

You guys are determined to hijack this thread into another Tomlin discussion which is pointless. Please refer to my signature for all my thoughts on Tomlin. There is no need for further discussion with me about Tomlin. Whatever likes endless, pointless Tomlin talk ; I don’t. Saying the same stuff over and over again is pointless.

you say the same damn thing over and over again in your sig,..

[Steel Maniac]

Ignore the sig then