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  • SteelCrazy
    Legend
    • Aug 2008
    • 5057

    Mason Rudolph after a few games

    What I have noticed with Mason Rudolph after a few games is he has absolutely zero awareness of things happening behind him. He doesn't have that instinct that all the great ones have of feeling pressure from the back side.

    On top of that, he doesn't get rid of the ball nearly quick enough. This is the NFL and receivers aren't going to have 5 yards of space. You got to throw into some tight windows.

    He's young and of these two things one is teachable and the other sadly isn't.

    We aren't going to get very far with this offense. Fichtner is a friend and confidant of Ben. He has no business being an offensive coordinator for anyone else. When Ben went on IR Fichtner should have been put IR.

    Fichtner needs to go watch a bunch of Mason Rudolph college games. See if there's something in there he could steal from, otherwise we're going to need life support just to finish the season.
    2019 Mock

    1. ILB
    2. CB
    3. ILB
    4. S
    5. CB
    6. ILB
    7. S
  • Ghost
    Legend
    • May 2008
    • 6423

    #2
    Hatred isn’t a strong enough word for that throw it to the RB/WR 5 yards behind the line of scrimmage. Stop that sh!t now!!!!
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    • BURGH86STEEL
      Legend
      • May 2008
      • 6935

      #3
      Mason is struggling with accuracy. I think he will gain more confidence if his accuracy improves. He's done some good things as a young QB. Only time and experience is going to tell if Mason will be a career backup or starter.

      On another note:
      The Steelers are not a power run blocking Oline. They need to find ways to get better running the ball in short yardage situations.

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      • The Man of Steel
        Pro Bowler
        • Dec 2009
        • 2241

        #4
        So I take it you weren’t impressed by his 74% completions today?
        Obviously the standard is the standard.

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        • Eddie Spaghetti
          Hall of Famer
          • Jul 2008
          • 4123

          #5
          he checks down too much for my liking but I'm starting to believe he is handcuffed by sub par playmakers and inept play calling

          I'm not sure what he is or isn't yet but I'm certainly not going to write him off after 5 starts and there are actually things to be encouraged about as he looks poised out there most of the time

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          • SteelCrazy
            Legend
            • Aug 2008
            • 5057

            #6
            Originally posted by The Man of Steel
            So I take it you weren’t impressed by his 74% completions today?
            LMAO, I could have passed for 74% with the throws he was making.
            2019 Mock

            1. ILB
            2. CB
            3. ILB
            4. S
            5. CB
            6. ILB
            7. S

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            • SteelCrazy
              Legend
              • Aug 2008
              • 5057

              #7
              Originally posted by Eddie Spaghetti
              he checks down too much for my liking but I'm starting to believe he is handcuffed by sub par playmakers and inept play calling

              I'm not sure what he is or isn't yet but I'm certainly not going to write him off after 5 starts and there are actually things to be encouraged about as he looks poised out there most of the time
              I'm not writing him off, but with the playcalling and apparent coaching he's getting I'm not expecting big things this season. I think you're right with being handcuffed. Turtle ball is in full swing.
              2019 Mock

              1. ILB
              2. CB
              3. ILB
              4. S
              5. CB
              6. ILB
              7. S

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              • Steel Maniac
                Banned
                • Apr 2017
                • 19472

                #8
                Yeah, right now MR is Mr. check down Charlie but you’ve gotta think that will change over time.

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                • BURGH86STEEL
                  Legend
                  • May 2008
                  • 6935

                  #9
                  Originally posted by SteelCrazy
                  I'm not writing him off, but with the playcalling and apparent coaching he's getting I'm not expecting big things this season. I think you're right with being handcuffed. Turtle ball is in full swing.
                  It's not unreasonable to believe that since Mason is a young and inexperienced QB that the coaches are limited in their approach with him. Everybody will gain more confidence if he plays better. The windows to throw in the NFL are generally tight. He's going to have to make those types of throws consistently if he wants to take another step as a passer.

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                  • Steel Maniac
                    Banned
                    • Apr 2017
                    • 19472

                    #10
                    Originally posted by SteelCrazy
                    I'm not writing him off, but with the playcalling and apparent coaching he's getting I'm not expecting big things this season. I think you're right with being handcuffed. Turtle ball is in full swing.
                    I think they’ll loosen the reins as MR gets more and more comfortable.

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                    • Steel Maniac
                      Banned
                      • Apr 2017
                      • 19472

                      #11
                      Originally posted by BURGH86STEEL
                      It's not unreasonable to believe that since Mason is a young and inexperienced QB that the coaches are limited in their approach with him. Everybody will gain more confidence if he plays better. The windows to throw in the NFL are generally tight. He's going to have to make those types of throws consistently if he wants to take another step as a passer.
                      Well, he’s going to get a long lease because we don’t have any Other recourse at qb

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                      • The Man of Steel
                        Pro Bowler
                        • Dec 2009
                        • 2241

                        #12
                        It’s almost hard to believe that this is the same Mason Rudolph who once scorched Pitt for 540 yards then 497 yards in back to back seasons. I thought when we drafted him that we got a big time gunslinger but as it turns out he’s barely even a game manager. Maybe we should sign Mike Gundy to be our offensive coordinator since Fichtner can’t coach him or anyone else up.
                        Obviously the standard is the standard.

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                        • Steel Maniac
                          Banned
                          • Apr 2017
                          • 19472

                          #13
                          Originally posted by The Man of Steel
                          It’s almost hard to believe that this is the same Mason Rudolph who once scorched Pitt for 540 yards then 497 yards in back to back seasons. I thought when we drafted him that we got a big time gunslinger but as it turns out he’s barely even a game manager. Maybe we should sign Mike Gundy to be our offensive coordinator since Fichtner can’t coach him or anyone else up.
                          Are you questioning Fitchner’s ability??

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                          • papillon
                            Legend
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 11340

                            #14
                            Originally posted by BURGH86STEEL
                            It's not unreasonable to believe that since Mason is a young and inexperienced QB that the coaches are limited in their approach with him. Everybody will gain more confidence if he plays better. The windows to throw in the NFL are generally tight. He's going to have to make those types of throws consistently if he wants to take another step as a passer.
                            It's not unreasonable to believe that MR is young and inexperienced, however, based on the moves the Steelers made after Ben's injury I believed that the Steelers saw something they liked in MR because not only did they not tank the season, they made moves as if they believed in MR and could win games and get into the playoffs.

                            Today was a win but it doesn't feel like one. MR holds the ball for an eternity, he's a sack or strip sack away every tine he drops back. He was fortunate the Colts only got a safety out of the sack in the end zone. He is going to have to play better for the Steelers to continue winning games. The defense had 3 TOs this week and the Steelers were in jeopardy of losing the game.

                            I believe he also lost faith in Juju after the INT on the pass that slipped through his hands. While that INT is entirely on Juju, you can't ignore him and James Washington was making plays today, try and get him the ball.

                            Pappy
                            Last edited by papillon; 11-03-2019, 06:22 PM.
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                            • Northern_Blitz
                              Legend
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 24382

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Steel Maniac
                              I think they’ll loosen the reins as MR gets more and more comfortable.
                              I think it's more Mason making decisions (or not making them) instead of scheme.

                              But maybe that's too pessimistic

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