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  • Steelhere10
    Hall of Famer
    • May 2008
    • 3849

    #31
    When I saw what Ryan, Rodgers, Cousins and now Wilson is making I have no doubt that these are the last years of Ben with the Steelers. Ben will want more and the Steelers will not cave.
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    • RuthlessBurgher
      Legend
      • May 2008
      • 33208

      #32
      Originally posted by Buzz
      I have to doubt whether Brady is really "taking less" ... after all, we're talking about the Cheaters. It's not too hard to envision a scenario where they are compensating him in other ways, paying him under the table, etc.
      Free "massages" for life at any participating Orchids of Asia Spa.
      Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

      Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

      We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

      We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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      • Oh wow
        Hall of Famer
        • Mar 2019
        • 2753

        #33
        Originally posted by Steelhere10
        When I saw what Ryan, Rodgers, Cousins and now Wilson is making I have no doubt that these are the last years of Ben with the Steelers. Ben will want more and the Steelers will not cave.
        Well, Colbert did say Ben and 52 kids so who knows.

        It’s only going to get more ridiculous which makes you wonder why we didn’t move before the other deals.

        I have to believe Ben’s agent didn’t like our offer and the FO isn’t happy about having to negotiate after these new deals.

        These numbers are ugly.

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        • Buzz
          Legend
          • Dec 2017
          • 8379

          #34
          Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
          Free "massages" for life at any participating Orchids of Asia Spa.
          So that's how Tom can keep playing at such a high level well into his 40's

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          • D Rock
            Hall of Famer
            • Dec 2008
            • 2797

            #35
            Wilson is better than Ben, so this has no more effect on a BR extension than the Aaron Rodgers contract that already existed does.

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            • Shawn
              Legend
              • Mar 2008
              • 15131

              #36
              This is why I believe it’s important to find your QB two years before you believe your franchise QB will retire or try to get a new contract. It significantly decreases leverage if the back up can play. But with what we currently have? I donÂ’t know maybe one of them will prove me wrong but I donÂ’t think that guy is on the roster. Rumors of Haskins slipping (likely smoke screen) gets me very excited. I would be ok with 1)QB 2)ILB 3) ILB/OLB/DB would play out just fine by me.
              Trolls are people too.

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              • RuthlessBurgher
                Legend
                • May 2008
                • 33208

                #37
                Russell Wilson deal shouldn't slow Steelers' talks with Big Ben

                8:29 AM ET

                Jeremy Fowler
                ESPN Staff Writer

                PITTSBURGH -- The ballooning quarterback market was already a factor in Ben Roethlisberger's negotiations with the Pittsburgh Steelers on a new deal. The numbers are too big to ignore, with seven quarterbacks signing deals worth $25 million or more annually in the past two years.

                Then Russell Wilson popped that balloon with a massive $140 million deal over four years, dunking over previous QB cash king Aaron Rodgers with $35 million per year to stay with the Seattle Seahawks through 2023.

                But Wilson's deal probably doesn't change much for Roethlisberger and the Steelers, who have taken their time on what will be Roethlisberger's last NFL contract. Roethlisberger is attending the Steelers' phase one of the offseason program this week.

                Though Roethlisberger can use rising quarterback pay to his advantage and will land a sizable multiyear deal, he's not expected to surpass Wilson's per-year average, barring a new development, according to a source.

                This isn't about the caliber of quarterback. Roethlisberger is still among the league's best. But the dynamics are different.

                Roethlisberger is 37 years old and wants to retire with the franchise that drafted him 15 years ago. That something wasn't done in March shows Roethlisberger and his agent, Ryan Tollner, have been willing to stay patient for the right deal.

                "It's probably his last contract as an NFL player, so it's significant. It's significant for us," general manager Kevin Colbert said late last month from the NFL owners meetings. "We're in a different dynamic from a financial standpoint as far as the cap because we don't have a couple of players with us before. So we have to make sure it all makes sense. It has to make sense for both sides, and we're comfortable at some point we hope it does."

                Once Roethlisberger's $5 million roster bonus paid out on March 15, both sides had no artificial deadlines to expedite talks.

                Unlike Wilson, who set a deadline of April 15, Big Ben and the Steelers haven't placed any known time constraints on their talks. Perhaps Wilson's splashy numbers will incentivize both parties to get ahead of the next quarterback contracts for Dak Prescott in Dallas and Carson Wentz in Philadelphia and others. But traditionally, the Steelers' only true deadline for players with one year left on a current deal is Week 1 kickoff. Recent big-money extensions for guard David DeCastro and defensive end Stephon Tuitt bled into that first week of regular season practices.

                Quarterback is a different beast, and the Steelers would like things wrapped up by then -- especially to solidify the most important position after a turbulent last six months with star departures Le'Veon Bell and Antonio Brown.

                But both parties have maintained confidence in a new deal, so there's no full-court press to the finish line -- at least not yet.

                The 2020 franchise tag number was estimated at around $28 million before Wilson's deal. Reaching or exceeding that number in per-year average would place Roethlisberger in the top tier. Roethlisberger can push for aggressive roster bonuses or more guarantees from the normally conservative Steelers.

                Any long-term investment will take Roethlisberger into his 40s in the black and gold, which is the focus of both sides.

                http://www.espn.com/blog/pittsburgh-steelers/post/_/id/30605/russell-wilson-deal-shouldnt-slow-steelers-talks-with-big-ben
                Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

                Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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                • Oh wow
                  Hall of Famer
                  • Mar 2019
                  • 2753

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Shawn
                  This is why I believe it’s important to find your QB two years before you believe your franchise QB will retire or try to get a new contract. It significantly decreases leverage if the back up can play. But with what we currently have? I donÂ’t know maybe one of them will prove me wrong but I donÂ’t think that guy is on the roster. Rumors of Haskins slipping (likely smoke screen) gets me very excited. I would be ok with 1)QB 2)ILB 3) ILB/OLB/DB would play out just fine by me.
                  How can you really see what we have in Rudolph since he is 3rd string?

                  I still have to remind myself he lasted until the 4th? for a reason.

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                  • Steel Maniac
                    Banned
                    • Apr 2017
                    • 19472

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Oh wow
                    Unless they are stupid with your money neither of them have to worry about money.

                    They can probably live a few lifetimes just off the interest alone.
                    Oh yeah........

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                    • RuthlessBurgher
                      Legend
                      • May 2008
                      • 33208

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Oh wow
                      How can you really see what we have in Rudolph since he is 3rd string?

                      I still have to remind myself he lasted until the 4th? for a reason.
                      We actually traded up to take Rudolph with the 12th pick in the 3rd round (#76 overall).
                      Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

                      Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                      We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                      We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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                      • BURGH86STEEL
                        Legend
                        • May 2008
                        • 6921

                        #41
                        Originally posted by Oh wow
                        Do you really think that’s why Brady takes less?

                        I seriously doubt it. I think Brady wants to play until he is 50 and will do anything needed to stay competitive.

                        Brady also takes a lot more preseason snaps and it’s not because his wife makes a ton of money.

                        When I pointed out how Brady plays 3 quarters in the second preseason game and it’s the difference between he and Ben folks said I was hating.

                        Some people put winning above everything else and will even cheat to win.
                        Brady has a "side deal" with the Pats. The Pats pay a company for services partially owned by Brady.

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                        • Disco1981
                          Pro Bowler
                          • Apr 2017
                          • 1635

                          #42
                          Originally posted by BURGH86STEEL
                          Brady has a "side deal" with the Pats. The Pats pay a company for services partially owned by Brady.
                          Been saying this for years...The " CHEATS" cheat at everything...You don't think Kraft pulled him in and said" we can get more rings, with better players, because of more cap space...If you take less and make it LOOK good...

                          * Psssst...Here's 50 million...You just keep that Honey...Just a lil gift among friends K...

                          * Psssst...And there's more where that came from...

                          Seriously though...These guys have, and make so much money...Why couldn't this be happening

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                          • hawaiiansteel
                            Legend
                            • May 2008
                            • 35649

                            #43
                            Originally posted by Disco1981
                            Been saying this for years...The " CHEATS" cheat at everything...You don't think Kraft pulled him in and said" we can get more rings, with better players, because of more cap space...If you take less and make it LOOK good...

                            * Psssst...Here's 50 million...You just keep that Honey...Just a lil gift among friends K...

                            * Psssst...And there's more where that came from...

                            Seriously though...These guys have, and make so much money...Why couldn't this be happening
                            wouldn't surprise me one iota...

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                            • Eddie Spaghetti
                              Hall of Famer
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 4123

                              #44
                              didn't they just put a TB12 center right next to the pats facility?

                              I'm sure that's just a coincindece and ole tom pays the full nut

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                              • Oh wow
                                Hall of Famer
                                • Mar 2019
                                • 2753

                                #45
                                Damn. They cheat at everything.

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