Realistically....what can we get for AB?

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  • steeler_fan_in_t.o.
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    Originally posted by Northern_Blitz
    I think it would be amazing if we could do that deal.

    But if I was a Detroit fan I'd be super pressed about giving up a pick that high.

    But I hope it happens.
    It all depends on perspective. The Lions often pick around the middle of the pack to little success. Why not guarantee a Pro Bowl talent for the next three years. Here are recent Lions first rounder:

    2012 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_NFL_Draft) 23 Riley Reiff (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riley_Reiff) OT (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Offensive_tackle) Iowa (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iowa_Hawkeyes_football)
    2013 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_NFL_Draft) 5 Ezekiel Ansah (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ezekiel_Ansah) DE (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defensive_end) BYU (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BYU_Cougars_football)
    2014 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_NFL_Draft) 10 Eric Ebron (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Ebron) TE (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tight_end) North Carolina (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Carolina_Tar_Heels_football)
    2015 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_NFL_Draft) 28 Laken Tomlinson (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laken_Tomlinson) G (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guard_(American_and_Canadian_football)) Duke (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duke_Blue_Devils_football)
    2016 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_NFL_Draft) 16 Taylor Decker (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taylor_Decker) OT (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tackle_(American_and_Canadian_football)) Ohio State (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ohio_State_Buckeyes_football)
    2017 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_NFL_Draft) 21 Jarrad Davis (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jarrad_Davis) LB (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linebacker) Florida (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_Gators_football)
    2018 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_NFL_Draft) 20 Frank Ragnow (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Ragnow) C (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Center_(American_and_Canadian_football)) Arkansas (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arkansas_Razorbacks_football)

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  • Steel Maniac
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    Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
    The guy I covet this year is Devin White from LSU. Nearly mirrors my high opinions of Roquan Smith in the last draft. Roquan came off the board last year at 1.8. If we can trade up with Detroit for 1.8 this year, I'd be ecstatic to be able to land White. Game changer in the middle of the defense. Upgrade our CB2 in free agency.
    Speak of the devil....

    http://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2019/story/_/id/25760118/star-lsu-tigers-linebacker-devin-white-entering-nfl-draft

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  • Steel Maniac
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    Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
    The guy I covet this year is Devin White from LSU. Nearly mirrors my high opinions of Roquan Smith in the last draft. Roquan came off the board last year at 1.8. If we can trade up with Detroit for 1.8 this year, I'd be ecstatic to be able to land White. Game changer in the middle of the defense. Upgrade our CB2 in free agency.
    I checked out White. Great athleticism. But we were burned by that with Dupree. I need to know how intelligent he is. Great LB's are a combination of both. Pardon me being a little gun shy. Colbert needs to do some more digging and see how is this guys play recognition etc. etc. All those little things above the neck that allow everything below the neck to do it's job.

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  • RuthlessBurgher
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    Originally posted by Steel Maniac
    So your basically saying that if Colbert wants him, he's going to have to be aggressive? Like he was in getting Troy?
    The guy I covet this year is Devin White from LSU. Nearly mirrors my high opinions of Roquan Smith in the last draft. Roquan came off the board last year at 1.8. If we can trade up with Detroit for 1.8 this year, I'd be ecstatic to be able to land White. Game changer in the middle of the defense. Upgrade our CB2 in free agency.

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  • Steel Maniac
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    Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
    Haskins won't get past the Giants at #6. In fact, they may trade up from #6 to be sure that they get him.
    So your basically saying that if Colbert wants him, he's going to have to be aggressive? Like he was in getting Troy?

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  • RuthlessBurgher
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    Originally posted by Shawn
    But with the 1/8 I surely wouldn't take an ILB. When would we be drafting that high again? Nope, Dwayne Haskins-QB tOSU. He's the real deal.
    Haskins won't get past the Giants at #6. In fact, they may trade up from #6 to be sure that they get him.

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  • steelz09
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    If we're talking trading for picks in exchange for AB then I hang up on anyone that isn't willing to offer a 1st rounder.

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  • Northern_Blitz
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    Originally posted by Captain Lemming
    Recall Peterson wanted out of the Cards last season.
    Brown wants out from us.

    Lets get it done!!!!

    Peterson and Haden would CHANGE OUR SECONDARY BIG TIME.

    I have said it for YEARS to deaf ears.

    Pay elite secondary over elite skill players EVERY TIME.
    I'm not sure it's falling on deaf ears. It's just that it's hard to get elite secondary players. They tend not to be available in UFA. And even if they were, we don't usually go after UFAs. Instead, we pay our own...and we seem to be not that good at drafting DBs outside of high picks (Troy).

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  • Shawn
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    Originally posted by Oviedo
    I wouldn't even wait a second to take that deal
    But with the 1/8 I surely wouldn't take an ILB. When would we be drafting that high again? Nope, Dwayne Haskins-QB tOSU. He's the real deal.

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  • Steel Maniac
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    Now I agree with that.

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  • Captain Lemming
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    Originally posted by Steel Maniac
    Where do we sign up for this deal???
    Recall Peterson wanted out of the Cards last season.
    Brown wants out from us.

    Lets get it done!!!!

    Peterson and Haden would CHANGE OUR SECONDARY BIG TIME.

    I have said it for YEARS to deaf ears.

    Pay elite secondary over elite skill players EVERY TIME.

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  • Captain Lemming
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    Originally posted by pittpete
    The team that gets Brown is getting a bargain.
    They were talking about this on the NFL Network today.
    3 years for less than 13 million per year.
    2019 $12,625,000
    2020 $11,300,000
    2021 $12,500,000
    How do I forward this to the Cardinals?

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  • Steel Maniac
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    Originally posted by steelerkeylargo
    I think the market for AB will be strong. Not sure we can get a top 5 pick. But I could see a trade similar to this

    Pit gets- Lions 1/8, Jarad Davis (MLB) and Lions 3rd

    Det gets- AB and Pit 1/20
    I like this deal a lot. Because we could then trade down a little in the first round and still get what we need while picking up an additional second round pick. Yeah, I'm being greedy; do you blame me?

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  • Steel Maniac
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    Originally posted by Captain Lemming
    Patrick Peterson.....please.....I'd GIVE THEM OUR SECOND TOO to make it happen
    Where do we sign up for this deal???

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  • pittpete
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    Originally posted by Steel Maniac
    Because of his age, and the big contract he's already commanding,..a pair of day 2 picks.
    The team that gets Brown is getting a bargain.
    They were talking about this on the NFL Network today.
    3 years for less than 13 million per year.
    2019 $12,625,000
    2020 $11,300,000
    2021 $12,500,000

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