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  • RuthlessBurgher
    Legend
    • May 2008
    • 33208

    #46
    Le'Veon speaks: Expectations, message to teammates, trade talk

    11:26 AM ET

    Jeremy Fowler
    ESPN Staff Writer

    PITTSBURGH -- The Le'Veon Bell debate has lacked one key voice over the past month: Bell himself.

    The Steelers running back has offered little more than a monocle emoji as he stayed away from the Steelers. But Bell made clear to ESPN that he's eyeing a return sooner than later, and he spoke at length about various topics related to his franchise tag.

    Here are some of the lingering questions that were addressed in ESPN's interview with Bell.

    What is Bell's expectation for himself upon his return?

    Bell expects to be himself. He says he's in top physical condition and doesn't want to hold back when he's on the field.

    "When I do get back, I plan to give it my all," he said.

    But what about a pitch count of sorts? Is that what Bell wants?

    An exact pitch count didn't come up, but I did ask Bell about returning to his heavy workload that has become his signature. Bell said he's prepared to do what's necessary to help the Steelers win while taking the chance to "show people" what he can still do.

    "My intentions [when this started], I'm going to save myself for when you want to make a long-term deal," said Bell, who added that, once on the field, "I'll be fully committed and give you everything I have."

    If Bell's not worried about touches once he returns, what was the "plan" Bell wanted to hear before reporting?

    This is a reference to agent Adisa Bakari openly asking on a Sirius XM interview during Week 1 what plan the Steelers had for his client.

    Bell couldn't speak for his agent, but generally, the player wanted to know how the Steelers would approach his future -- namely, what the team does with his rights (a trade or otherwise) now and in the future.

    He still wants a long-term deal in Pittsburgh and had hoped to know the likelihood of that before stepping onto the field.

    There's a perception Bell misled the team. What did he say about that?

    Bell tweeted in July that the 2018 season would be his "best to date," but he made clear he offered no other details about his plans for the season beyond that. He never told teammates he would come in, and the organization had no idea, either.

    "This second year on the tag, everybody thought I would do what I did on the first tag and assumed a certain thing and it offended a lot of people," Bell said. "That's not my fault you literally thought I'd do the same thing. Everybody thinks I'm bluffing. That's not the person I am. I've always been a stubborn kid. When I have my mind set, that's what I'm going to do."

    Bell values his relationships in the locker room and isn't worried about re-entering it. He's prepared to talk with players individually about why he felt he had to preserve long-term health.

    How will Bell handle a trade proposal if the Steelers come to him with one?

    Because Bell has to sign his franchise tender in order to be traded, Bell can essentially veto any offer. But Bell said he's open and willing to work with the Steelers and other teams -- in earnest.

    "I would have to know everything," Bell said. "It depends on what team it is and whether they want to do a long-term deal after the tag. If they really wanted to do a long-term deal, they could get me traded."

    The NFL trade deadline is Oct. 30, two days after the Week 8 matchup with the Browns in which Bell is hoping to play. Popcorn.

    Bell is a target for fans who say he should take his game check and be happy. What does Bell think about the me-first perception?

    Bell is self-aware here. He knows he has lost some fans, many of whom are conditioned to side with the team. But he feels a bit misunderstood over player business. He cited being turned off by how the Steelers were able to walk away from Troy Polamalu -- who technically retired after the 2014 season -- because the money wasn't guaranteed.

    He didn't want to take the Steelers' monster $70 million offer because the true guarantee was $17 million -- well below backs David Johnson and Todd Gurley, who got between $31 million and $45 million guaranteed this summer.

    "They are trying to win on both ends, and that's not fair," said Bell about the team. "They thought I was playing, but I'm not playing."

    Bell was on a jet ski while the Steelers were struggling to win a game. What does he say about a juxtaposition that's unsavory for some?

    Bell said he simply took a bit of time off once it was cemented that he wouldn't show up Week 1, but since then he has been training aggressively.

    Bell's football readiness never has been questioned in the Steelers' locker room. That's why teammates supported him through his drug suspensions. They know he works.

    What is Bell's plan with the transition tag, if the team applies it?

    This one is fascinating in light of colleague Dan Graziano's report that the Steelers would argue a transition of $17-plus million should prorate for the games Bell misses in 2018. That sounds like one heckuva grievance over the merits of cornering a player at a discounted rate.

    But Bell said two things about the transition tag: (1) The team told him during the franchise-tag negotiations that they would apply it, and (2) he would welcome it because he could negotiate with other teams or the Steelers.

    With the transition tag, the Steelers could match any offer or facilitate a sign-and-trade for draft picks. And if they want to keep him, the salary is much lower than the $20-plus million due on the franchise tag. Remember, a long-term deal with lofty guarantees is the sole goal here, preferably with the Steelers.

    Anything else is a sidebar.

    Bell (finally) had a lot to say about what to expect when he plays, telling his side to teammates and what it would take for him to agree to a trade.


    Steelers running in place

    The Steelers rank last in the NFL in rushing yards per game since having a big day on the ground in Week 1. Their 19 rushing yards Sunday were their fewest in a game since 1970.

    Week 1:

    Rushes/game 35
    Rush yards/game 159
    Rush TD/game 2.0

    Weeks 2-4:

    Rushes/game 15.3
    Rush yards/game 43.3
    Rush TD/game 0.7

    Source: ESPN Stats & Information
    Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

    Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

    We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

    We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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    • pittpete
      Legend
      • Aug 2008
      • 6825

      #47
      Originally posted by Slapstick
      Exactly. But, if you put yourself in a two TD hole, it tends to lead to the abandonment of the running game, Bell or no...
      Definitely agree but we were tied with the Ravens and abandoned the run....
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      • feltdizz
        Legend
        • May 2008
        • 27564

        #48
        So Bell never told teammates anything they just assumed he would be there like last year?

        Hmmm.. lol.
        Steelers 27
        Rats 16

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        • feltdizz
          Legend
          • May 2008
          • 27564

          #49
          Originally posted by pittpete
          Definitely agree but we were tied with the Ravens and abandoned the run....
          Yup.. and we were within striking distance with KC too.

          Elite players are vocal and demand the ball. Conner is young happy to be here and doesn’t want to ruffle any feathers.

          Also, I think Ben can see 8 in the box and still give it to Bell because he knows Bell can dance in a crowd and get 5 yards.

          We are a totally different team with Bell in the backfield.
          Steelers 27
          Rats 16

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          • Slapstick
            Rookie
            • May 2008
            • 0

            #50
            Originally posted by pittpete
            Definitely agree but we were tied with the Ravens and abandoned the run....
            Yep. I don’t think Conner can call his own runs...

            That is on Fichtner and Roethlisberger...
            Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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            • SanAntonioSteelerFan
              Legend
              • May 2008
              • 8361

              #51
              Originally posted by KYPITTFAN
              My truth does not have to be yours. I stand by my comments.
              Wait, KYPITTFAN … Are you bringing up metaphysical concepts on a Steeler board … e.g., "Alternate Truths"?

              Wait … is Kelly Anne Conway a Steeler fan and a secret member of this board??



              We got our "6-PACK" - time to work on a CASE!

              HERE WE GO STEELERS, HERE WE GO!

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              • Oviedo
                Legend
                • May 2008
                • 23824

                #52
                I hate the way Bell handled this but I always recognized how important he was to this team. I think that the "wait and see" that myself and others voiced about Conner has proven prudent because he will NEVER be able to do what Bell can.

                I think it was perfectly said before "Welcome back LB. We need you...jerk"
                "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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                • Sugar
                  Hall of Famer
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 3700

                  #53
                  I guess that I don't expect the team to be the same without Bell as with him. They shouldn't be. However, this team was winning games with lesser RB's in the past (and far lesser WR talent). It's just puzzling that they haven't seemed to adjust their game and appear to be in a funk. My concern isn't so much on Bell coming back as much as the team being able to mount an Offense with the great talent that they have even without him.

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                  • Slapstick
                    Rookie
                    • May 2008
                    • 0

                    #54
                    Compared to Bell’s first four games last year, Conner has done what Bell did...

                    Either our offense turns the ball over six times or our defense puts us in a multiple TD hole...

                    Bell won’t stop that...
                    Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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                    • feltdizz
                      Legend
                      • May 2008
                      • 27564

                      #55
                      Originally posted by SanAntonioSteelerFan
                      Wait, KYPITTFAN … Are you bringing up metaphysical concepts on a Steeler board … e.g., "Alternate Truths"?

                      Wait … is Kelly Anne Conway a Steeler fan and a secret member of this board??

                      haha... all that bad stuff that happened in the past is nothing compared to Facebook Live, tweets and Gatorade cooler tossing.

                      Thats real disrespect.

                      Its never been this bad

                      seriously, our tolerance levels are so low these days. You used to be able to grope or call people names and no one would bat and eye. Now you say midget and you are out of a job.
                      Last edited by feltdizz; 10-02-2018, 03:52 PM.
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                      • feltdizz
                        Legend
                        • May 2008
                        • 27564

                        #56
                        Originally posted by Slapstick
                        Compared to Bell’s first four games last year, Conner has done what Bell did...

                        Either our offense turns the ball over six times or our defense puts us in a multiple TD hole...

                        Bell won’t stop that...
                        Yeah. The turnovers are an issue but I think Bells success in the ground vs teams like KC and Baltimore May have changed the outcome.

                        Also, maybe Bell fumbles vs Cleveland but who knows. Elite players tend to do elite things that change the outcomes of games.

                        The more ore you have the greater your chances are of something good happening.
                        Steelers 27
                        Rats 16

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                        • Disco1981
                          Pro Bowler
                          • Apr 2017
                          • 1635

                          #57
                          Bell is the least of our worries, and by that I mean...He's done...DONE

                          He is trying to save face, look like the good guy...Said he was going to do as last year, hold out but be there week 1...might sit out the whole year..no, I will be back the bye week 7, to collect 855 large,and not even play lmao...

                          Teamates are pissed, team is reeling. They are not taking you back...They WILL use the 2 week exemption...They are trying to trade you...

                          In the worst case scenario you leave, and we get a 3rd...That's the facts...Anybody who thinks othereise...Is delusional!

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                          • Slapstick
                            Rookie
                            • May 2008
                            • 0

                            #58
                            Originally posted by feltdizz
                            Yeah. The turnovers are an issue but I think Bells success in the ground vs teams like KC and Baltimore May have changed the outcome.

                            Also, maybe Bell fumbles vs Cleveland but who knows. Elite players tend to do elite things that change the outcomes of games.

                            The more ore you have the greater your chances are of something good happening.
                            You cant just assume that past success will repeat...
                            Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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                            • feltdizz
                              Legend
                              • May 2008
                              • 27564

                              #59
                              Originally posted by Slapstick
                              You cant just assume that past success will repeat...
                              Hmm... while I know we still lose games with Bell in the backfield I tend to lean towards our offense being better than 3 scoreless halves and 47 yards
                              vs the Rats.

                              It comes across like you believe Bell doesn’t have much of an impact on our offense.
                              Steelers 27
                              Rats 16

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                              • feltdizz
                                Legend
                                • May 2008
                                • 27564

                                #60
                                Originally posted by Disco1981
                                Bell is the least of our worries, and by that I mean...He's done...DONE

                                He is trying to save face, look like the good guy...Said he was going to do as last year, hold out but be there week 1...might sit out the whole year..no, I will be back the bye week 7, to collect 855 large,and not even play lmao...

                                Teamates are pissed, team is reeling. They are not taking you back...They WILL use the 2 week exemption...They are trying to trade you...

                                In the worst case scenario you leave, and we get a 3rd...That's the facts...Anybody who thinks othereise...Is delusional!
                                I hope not. A lot of season will be left when he returns. One team meeting and I think it’s back to business.

                                and in Bells defense he warned the FO he was prepared to sit out of ragged again. It’s not like he lied. He was very clear IMO. We just thought he was bluffing.
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