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  • Northern_Blitz
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    • Dec 2008
    • 23986

    Originally posted by Oh wow
    Maybe but I’m not so sure. I think Colbert can make money appear if we really wants a player.

    We are notorious for kicking the can down the road to keep or acquire talent.
    Maybe.

    But, we're also notorious for not making high value UFA signings.

    I think it may have still happened if we kept Bell and AB didn't leave.

    But, our cap would have been in very rough shape if we signed Bell to the deal we offered and then had to pull ABs money into this year and still had to do something at WR.

    But, maybe you're right and we just extend more people and live with the dead money after Ben retires.

    I was just trying to point out that I think the right question isn't "who would you cut", more like "who do you think we wouldn't have signed".

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    • Northern_Blitz
      Legend
      • Dec 2008
      • 23986

      Originally posted by whatever
      Hindsight.
      We desperately needed a wr and ilb so decent money still would have been needed. Switzer hardly makes any money and he would need replaced also.
      More than likely you aren't signing Nelson or extend Haden.
      Then next year no chance to keep Tuitt or Dupree or sign anyone good to replace them.
      I didn't think about the Haden extension...although I also kind of think it was a mistake to extend a CB as old as he is.

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      • whatever
        Legend
        • Sep 2019
        • 5789

        Originally posted by Northern_Blitz
        I didn't think about the Haden extension...although I also kind of think it was a mistake to extend a CB as old as he is.
        I think some fans get so infatuated with certain players that they ignore the fact you have to sign 52 other guys.

        As far as Haden, I guess if you can't draft or develop dbs you have to trade for them. And if you trade for them, you sorta have to extend them if they are at least playing decent or trading for them looks like a mistake.
        How is it possible to have the best owner, best front office, best gm, best HC, good/great drafts every year and good FA acquisitions every year, but only have 3 playoff wins in 14 years?

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        • Oh wow
          Hall of Famer
          • Mar 2019
          • 2753

          Originally posted by whatever
          Hindsight.
          We desperately needed a wr and ilb so decent money still would have been needed. Switzer hardly makes any money and he would need replaced also.
          More than likely you aren't signing Nelson or extend Haden.
          Then next year no chance to keep Tuitt or Dupree or sign anyone good to replace them.
          Wait. If Bell took the offer we weren’t desperate for a WR at that time.

          Fans were upset when we drafted JuJu because they said we didn’t need a WR.

          That’s the one position I don’t worry about when it comes to the draft.

          Maybe we don’t extend Haden due to his age and injury history.

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          • Oh wow
            Hall of Famer
            • Mar 2019
            • 2753

            Originally posted by whatever
            I think some fans get so infatuated with certain players that they ignore the fact you have to sign 52 other guys.

            As far as Haden, I guess if you can't draft or develop dbs you have to trade for them. And if you trade for them, you sorta have to extend them if they are at least playing decent or trading for them looks like a mistake.
            Fans or Colbert?

            Remember we tagged him twice, restricted him AND tried to sign him twice.

            Colbert is pretty good at managing 53 players. He has done it for years.

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            • whatever
              Legend
              • Sep 2019
              • 5789

              Originally posted by Oh wow
              Wait. If Bell took the offer we weren’t desperate for a WR at that time.

              Fans were upset when we drafted JuJu because they said we didn’t need a WR.

              That’s the one position I don’t worry about when it comes to the draft.

              Maybe we don’t extend Haden due to his age and injury history.
              What?
              How does paying Bell 15 million take care of our desperate need for a starting ilb, wr and cb?
              How is it possible to have the best owner, best front office, best gm, best HC, good/great drafts every year and good FA acquisitions every year, but only have 3 playoff wins in 14 years?

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              • Oh wow
                Hall of Famer
                • Mar 2019
                • 2753

                Originally posted by whatever
                What?
                How does paying Bell 15 million take care of our desperate need for a starting ilb, wr and cb?
                We didn’t pay Bell. How did we pay for our desperate need at ILB? We did that thru the draft.

                Why do you keep talking about a desperate need at WR? We didn’t have a desperate need at wr when we offered Bell his contract.

                Maybe I’m missing something but are you just plopping Bell on our team right today or last year when he refused our offer?

                We simply draft more WR’s if we are “desperate” but we weren’t desperate until AB left.

                CB, you get those the same we got them now. In a trade or FA. Give up a pick for a known quantity.

                It’s not that hard. You make it sound like the only way to get talent is with raw numbers on paper and that’s not how the NFL works. You make deals. You may gamble with a future for right now. You call up teams like Miami, Rams, Bengals, etc who are taking calls because they also have to make moves.

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                • hawaiiansteel
                  Legend
                  • May 2008
                  • 35317

                  I wonder if Bell secretly regrets signing with the Jets now instead of accepting our offer?

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                  • whatever
                    Legend
                    • Sep 2019
                    • 5789

                    Originally posted by Oh wow
                    We didn’t pay Bell. How did we pay for our desperate need at ILB? We did that thru the draft.

                    Why do you keep talking about a desperate need at WR? We didn’t have a desperate need at wr when we offered Bell his contract.

                    Maybe I’m missing something but are you just plopping Bell on our team right today or last year when he refused our offer?

                    We simply draft more WR’s if we are “desperate” but we weren’t desperate until AB left.

                    CB, you get those the same we got them now. In a trade or FA. Give up a pick for a known quantity.

                    It’s not that hard. You make it sound like the only way to get talent is with raw numbers on paper and that’s not how the NFL works. You make deals. You may gamble with a future for right now. You call up teams like Miami, Rams, Bengals, etc who are taking calls because they also have to make moves.
                    You're not worth my time.
                    How is it possible to have the best owner, best front office, best gm, best HC, good/great drafts every year and good FA acquisitions every year, but only have 3 playoff wins in 14 years?

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                    • whatever
                      Legend
                      • Sep 2019
                      • 5789

                      Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
                      I wonder if Bell secretly regrets signing with the Jets now instead of accepting our offer?
                      I'm sure he does.
                      Not only did he lose a bunch of money, he also got made a fool of.
                      Not that he cares much about winning, but he could have had a few more regular season ones with us.
                      How is it possible to have the best owner, best front office, best gm, best HC, good/great drafts every year and good FA acquisitions every year, but only have 3 playoff wins in 14 years?

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                      • Buzz
                        Legend
                        • Dec 2017
                        • 8300

                        Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
                        I wonder if Bell secretly regrets signing with the Jets now instead of accepting our offer?
                        Nah. He's got enough money to keep him in weed for a long time, plus he gets to rap on the side. I don't think guys like him even carry the concept of regret.

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                        • Oh wow
                          Hall of Famer
                          • Mar 2019
                          • 2753

                          Originally posted by whatever
                          You're not worth my time.
                          Is this supposed to mean something to me?

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                          • Oh wow
                            Hall of Famer
                            • Mar 2019
                            • 2753

                            Originally posted by Buzz
                            Nah. He's got enough money to keep him in weed for a long time, plus he gets to rap on the side. I don't think guys like him even carry the concept of regret.
                            He’s going to work just like every other player on every other team.

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                            • hawaiiansteel
                              Legend
                              • May 2008
                              • 35317

                              Originally posted by whatever
                              I'm sure he does.
                              Not only did he lose a bunch of money, he also got made a fool of.
                              Not that he cares much about winning, but he could have had a few more regular season ones with us.
                              Bell certainly could have had more yards from scrimmage, that Jets offensive line is atrocious.

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                              • hawaiiansteel
                                Legend
                                • May 2008
                                • 35317

                                Le’Veon Bell Claims Steelers Had Interest In Trading For Him

                                By Alex Kozora
                                Posted on October 31, 2019

                                Le’Veon Bell made a pretty surprising claim today, saying the Pittsburgh Steelers were one of several teams inquiring about him prior to this week’s trade deadline.

                                He appeared on Sirius Radio’s 17 Weeks, a podcast hosted by Jalen Ramsey, Cole Beasley, and Bell, to talk about trade rumors that swirled about. He confirmed the rumors were true and rattled off the teams who came calling.

                                “I found out through my agent he had talked to the Jets and there were teams like Houston, the Packers, the Kansas City Chiefs,” Bell said. “And surprisingly the Steelers were all in the mix in trying to trade for me.”

                                If the link to the podcast doesn’t work, you can hear the comments via FS1’s Speak For Yourself, at about the one minute mark.

                                It’s unknown how close the Steelers were to doing a deal and ultimately, Bell remained a Jet.

                                Bell has struggled in New York this season running behind a patchwork offensive line, a revolving door at quarterback, and an offense that’s struggled to get him the football. Signing Bell to a long-term deal reportedly wasn’t head coach Adam Gase’s idea. That was driven by then GM Mike Maccagnan who was fired by the team on May 15th, two months after Bell inked his four year, $52 million deal.

                                Pittsburgh never wanted to lose Bell. The only reason why he left was to seek a top-market deal and structure that would be more player-friendly than what the Steelers traditionally offer. With him receiving less money on the market, and any guaranteed money in a trade counting against the Jets, not the acquiring team, it makes sense the Steelers would still have some level of interest.

                                Chalk it up to another attempt of Kevin Colbert being aggressive. This year, he’s already traded up for Devin Bush and sent next year’s first rounder for Minkah Fitzpatrick. How close was he on getting Bell back in black and gold? We’ll probably never know though it’s fair to assume the Steelers had less draft capital to work with than the other teams Bell mentioned in the podcast.

                                And if the Jets do ultimately trade Bell, which seems likely to happen at some point in the relative near future? Pittsburgh might come calling again.

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